Best coilover kit

kaiv · 11-23-2012, 04:58 PM

I have to ask.. do you really track that often?

You asking for a rough vs smooth setup is a very noobish thing to say. People who track know that a high end setup is smooth everywhere and/or that rough/stiff doesn't equal better track performance.

Also if you go that often how come I have never met you

Anyhow, the KW CS fall right into your budget and are your best bet at this price point.

bigjae1976 · 11-23-2012, 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by M3SQRD

If you are considering TCK suspension setups then I'd recommend contacting TCK, BimmerWorld or VAC directly and discussing with them your suspension goals.

For a more track-biased setup I'd recommend the TCK DA setup over the SA setup or JRZ, MCS or Ohlins dampers.

I would recommend getting the D/A's as well.

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-23-2012, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by kaiv

I have to ask.. do you really track that often?

You asking for a rough vs smooth setup is a very noobish thing to say. People who track know that a high end setup is smooth everywhere and/or that rough/stiff doesn't equal better track performance.

Also if you go that often how come I have never met you

Anyhow, the KW CS fall right into your budget and are your best bet at this price point.

i used to track a lot with speed district but i haven't gone for a while now. i would go with the kw cs but i want something a little more than that. maybe something like the tc kline single adjustable or double. what do you think about that? You have probable seen me at the track before. I have a black e92 and used to have orange track wheels with r888.

skxf430 · 11-23-2012, 06:38 PM

Go with Ohlins or Motons if money is not an issue

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-23-2012, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by skxf430

Go with Ohlins or Motons if money is not an issue

money is an issue! motons and ohlins are a little too much

kaiv · 11-25-2012, 04:13 PM

I'd consider the JRZ RS1 as the next step up from KW CS but those are a bit more money though!

dex37 · 11-25-2012, 05:19 PM

Just an idea. Bilstein now also has clubsport coilover kit. I haven't read any reviews yet, so I don't know how it compares to KW CS.

ThatGuyMikee · 11-25-2012, 05:21 PM

megan racing coils with ms edc box... comes with camber plates and great for the street... i love them

dvpouldar26 · 11-25-2012, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92

one more question for you guys.. For example I'm looking at tc kline shocks and you get to choose what spring rate you want. Are the high spring rates more comfortable?

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Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92

i was actually talking about the full coilover ground control kit. i think I'm going to go with something better though. TC kline, Ast, jrz.

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Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92

i used to track a lot with speed district but i haven't gone for a while now. i would go with the kw cs but i want something a little more than that. maybe something like the tc kline single adjustable or double. what do you think about that? You have probable seen me at the track before. I have a black e92 and used to have orange track wheels with r888.

I think you have to specify what you mean by "better" and "something more", those terms are vague. Do you want something with more adjustability? Remember, no matter what setup you go with, it does not promise an improvement in handling. Just as importantly, you have to have everything setup for your needs, driving style, where you track, etc. Talk to a reputable shop about getting set up properly then dial in final adjustments as you go. I'd definitely specify what you're looking for. A setup with more camber adjustment and more compression/rebound adjustability?

From some of your comments, it seems like you should do some more research on suspension and suspension setup. Higher spring do not necessarily indicate a rough ride, the "comfort" of the drive is also dependent on compression and rebound settings. A car with high rates can still be quite streetable. I'd recommend KW CS, or JRZ RS1's in your price range. In calculating your budget, remember to factor in install and setup costs if you're not installing, corner balancing and aligning your setup yourself.

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-26-2012, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by dvpouldar26

I think you have to specify what you mean by "better" and "something more", those terms are vague. Do you want something with more adjustability? Remember, no matter what setup you go with, it does not promise an improvement in handling. Just as importantly, you have to have everything setup for your needs, driving style, where you track, etc. Talk to a reputable shop about getting set up properly then dial in final adjustments as you go. I'd definitely specify what you're looking for. A setup with more camber adjustment and more compression/rebound adjustability?

From some of your comments, it seems like you should do some more research on suspension and suspension setup. Higher spring do not necessarily indicate a rough ride, the "comfort" of the drive is also dependent on compression and rebound settings. A car with high rates can still be quite streetable. I'd recommend KW CS, or JRZ RS1's in your price range. In calculating your budget, remember to factor in install and setup costs if you're not installing, corner balancing and aligning your setup yourself.

thank you so much for all of your help man. i appreciate it. would you say that the JRZ RS1's are significantly better than the TCK single or double adjustable coilovers?

Donbona · 11-26-2012, 03:53 AM

Ive had Bilstien and KW on my car, and although they are both decent.... I now run Intrax Coils which are in a different league all together!

dvpouldar26 · 11-26-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92

thank you so much for all of your help man. i appreciate it. would you say that the JRZ RS1's are significantly better than the TCK single or double adjustable coilovers?

I think both JRZ's and TCK are great, but there's also a big price difference, and I know you mentioned price is an issue. According to HP Autowerks, JRZ's S/A's are around 4500 retail and TCK's are around 3000 for their D/A. However, JRZ's are widely used and it would be easier to get info on setup from others compared to TCK's which I haven't heard too many things about on the E9x's. I'd definitely give HP Autowerks and The R's Tuning a call because I know they've installed and dialed in a few of these setups.

I'd still look at KW CS. For street driving and your budget, I think it's a great choice. If you're not happy with their standard spring rates (I think they are 514/800), you can always just swap in another set of Swift springs with the spring rates of your choosing. I'd recommend going with the KW CS's and saving the rest of your money for pads/fluid/tires, unless you have those already.

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-26-2012, 01:49 PM

thank you so much. I'm going to look around a little more and make some calls and see where it takes me!

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I think both JRZ's and TCK are great, but there's also a big price difference, and I know you mentioned price is an issue. According to HP Autowerks, JRZ's S/A's are around 4500 retail and TCK's are around 3000 for their D/A. However, JRZ's are widely used and it would be easier to get info on setup from others compared to TCK's which I haven't heard too many things about on the E9x's. I'd definitely give HP Autowerks and The R's Tuning a call because I know they've installed and dialed in a few of these setups.

I'd still look at KW CS. For street driving and your budget, I think it's a great choice. If you're not happy with their standard spring rates (I think they are 514/800), you can always just swap in another set of Swift springs with the spring rates of your choosing. I'd recommend going with the KW CS's and saving the rest of your money for pads/fluid/tires, unless you have those already.

Zzhou · 11-26-2012, 02:48 PM

what about KW competition 2 way?

PayaumShoushaniE92 · 11-26-2012, 02:52 PM

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what about KW competition 2 way?

i would rather go with something like the jrz rs1

CSanto · 11-26-2012, 02:57 PM

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what about KW competition 2 way?

Comp 2 ways are like 4,300. I think OP said 3,000 Price cap.

e92m3_f15x5 · 11-28-2012, 08:48 AM

KW V3 for street. I love mine, this is some high quality stuff. I used to run "high end" teins for my Japanese cars. Night and day between them.

If you track often then KW CS might be a good option.

kchu221 · 11-28-2012, 12:10 PM

you have alot of options! there JRZ, ohlins, quantum, penske, aragosta, sachs... cant go wrong with any of the ones listed

TC Kline Racing · 11-28-2012, 06:00 PM

OP, shoot me a PM or give me a call so we can discuss.......

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

TC Kline and ASTs are good alternatives.

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Originally Posted by M3SQRD

+1 for TC Kline suspension options

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Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92

one more question for you guys.. For example I'm looking at tc kline shocks and you get to choose what spring rate you want. Are the high spring rates more comfortable?

Based on what I have read so far, I would suggest 400#front 700# rear and based on the # of track events/month I would DEFINITELY recommend Double Adjustable.

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Originally Posted by M3SQRD

If you are considering TCK suspension setups then I'd recommend contacting TCK, BimmerWorld or VAC directly and discussing with them your suspension goals.

For a more track-biased setup I'd recommend the TCK DA setup over the SA setup or JRZ, MCS or Ohlins dampers.

The man knows what he's talking about

^^

M3SQRD · 11-28-2012, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by TC Kline Racing

The man knows what he's talking about

^^

Sorry...the "or" was supposed to mean go with JRZ, MCS or Ohlins over the SA, not DA/SA over JRZ, MCS or Ohlins...

HP Autosport · 11-28-2012, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92

money is an issue! motons and ohlins are a little too much

The new Ohlins R&T will be at half the price of Moton Clubsport 2-way. Ohlins does not currently offer a coilover kit for the E9X M3 unless you are referring to the Ohlins based PSi Raceline Kit, which is not recommended for street duty.

M3SQRD · 11-29-2012, 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by HP Autowerks

The new Ohlins R&T will be at half the price of Moton Clubsport 2-way. Ohlins does not currently offer a coilover kit for the E9X M3 unless you are referring to the Ohlins based PSi Raceline Kit, which is not recommended for street duty.

When I talked to PSI about their Ohlins kit they said "there are a lot of customers running them on the street" and they actually recommended them for street use even though their website says otherwise! I'll wait until I find out how many miles their customers were able to get on the street before the dampers need rebuilds...

I was the one that originally suggested the R&T kit and clearly stated only if he was "willing to wait"

Any idea when the kit will be released?

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11-23-2012, 04:58 PM	#23
kaiv Major Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,227 iTrader: (15)	I have to ask.. do you really track that often? You asking for a rough vs smooth setup is a very noobish thing to say. People who track know that a high end setup is smooth everywhere and/or that rough/stiff doesn't equal better track performance. Also if you go that often how come I have never met you Anyhow, the KW CS fall right into your budget and are your best bet at this price point.
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11-23-2012, 06:38 PM	#26
skxf430 Private First Class Drives: Driving Miss Daisy Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 190 iTrader: (0)	Go with Ohlins or Motons if money is not an issue
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11-25-2012, 04:13 PM	#28
kaiv Major Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,227 iTrader: (15)	I'd consider the JRZ RS1 as the next step up from KW CS but those are a bit more money though!
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11-25-2012, 05:19 PM	#29
dex37 Second Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 204 iTrader: (0)	Just an idea. Bilstein now also has clubsport coilover kit. I haven't read any reviews yet, so I don't know how it compares to KW CS.
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11-28-2012, 08:48 AM	#39
e92m3_f15x5 mmmmmm Drives: Ducati 848 EVO + E92 AW M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 129 iTrader: (1)	KW V3 for street. I love mine, this is some high quality stuff. I used to run "high end" teins for my Japanese cars. Night and day between them. If you track often then KW CS might be a good option.
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