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      11-21-2012, 01:37 PM   #1
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Best coilover kit

hi i currently have the rd sport springs on my car and i am looking to upgrade to coilovers. i have been looking around for a while now but cannot decide which is the best all around. My choices are kw v3s, kw clubsports, ground control kit, bill stein pss10. I track about 3 to 4 times a month so i want something more rough compared to a smooth ride. Please let me know any suggestions you guys have on shocks or coil over kits. thank you so much
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Opinions will vary, but my choice would be the KW Clubsports from the list you've provided.
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Opinions will vary, but my choice would be the KW Clubsports from the list you've provided.
Thank you tom. Would you say the clubsports are easily better than the ground control kit?
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Thank you tom. Would you say the clubsports are easily better than the ground control kit?
Don't know many people with the GC kits, so I wouldn't be the one to ask.



We did place 3rd using the KW Motorsport kit in GTA just a couple of weeks ago, KW was part of the team that made it happen.
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After going from the Ground Control kit to KW V3 I can say there is a night and day difference. I can assume the KW Clubsport is even better than the already great KW V3, but seems to be more track oriented which is why I went V3 for my daily driver. I got my set up from EAS and had them install and I couldn't be happier.

I would strongly recommend to stay away from Ground Control though, I had nothing but bad experiences with their product and customer service.
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      11-22-2012, 01:03 PM   #7
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3-4 times per month? Damn!

Why not just go all out and get something like the Moton or MCS?
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If you track that often you would be best served by either a KW clubsport, MCS, or JRZ RS. I love my KW CS, the ride is still civil on the street and they rock at the track. I will say that they don't feel quite as awesome as my friend's MCS though.
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If you track that often you would be best served by either a KW clubsport, MCS, or JRZ RS. I love my KW CS, the ride is still civil on the street and they rock at the track. I will say that they don't feel quite as awesome as my friend's MCS though.
Moton and mcs are a little pricey for me. i am looking for something in the price range of about 2 to 3k. Can you let me know what you guys recommend besides the kw cs. thank you so much
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TC Kline and ASTs are good alternatives.
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TC Kline and ASTs are good alternatives.
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TC Kline.
+1 for TC Kline suspension options

Also, if you are willing to wait, the Ohlins R&T (DFV) suspension should be released soon.

For a ~$500 over your budget you could get a JRZ RS1 setup.
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I ran KW V3's on my E46 M3 back in the day and liked them. They are the best bang for your buck.

However, if I was in my NSX I would not go with any of these setups as they were considered cheap and not on par with Moton, Aragosta, Ohlins, etc.

I ran the Aragosta and Ohlins on my old NSX and the KW brand was not even on the same playing field. But for BMWs they arent all that bad. I have had so many suspension setups the past 20 years I would have to say the Aragosta (Tuned by Top Secret) was my best setup.

Good luck.
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I ran KW V3's on my E46 M3 back in the day and liked them. They are the best bang for your buck.

However, if I was in my NSX I would not go with any of these setups as they were considered cheap and not on par with Moton, Aragosta, Ohlins, etc.

I ran the Aragosta and Ohlins on my old NSX and the KW brand was not even on the same playing field. But for BMWs they arent all that bad. I have had so many suspension setups the past 20 years I would have to say the Aragosta (Tuned by Top Secret) was my best setup.

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thank you so much for your help. Where can you get aragosta coilover for the e92 m3? And approximately how much do they go for?
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one more question for you guys.. For example I'm looking at tc kline shocks and you get to choose what spring rate you want. Are the high spring rates more comfortable?
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one more question for you guys.. For example I'm looking at tc kline shocks and you get to choose what spring rate you want. Are the high spring rates more comfortable?
The answer is basically "no". However, with high-end dampers, stiffer springs can be used on the street and the ride will still be street friendly.

Spring rates depend on whether you're looking for a street, track or dual-purpose suspension setup. Based on your OP, it sounds like you are looking for a dual-purpose setup biased more toward a track setup? Are you looking at the TCK SA or DA dampers?
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If you have EDC i see a lot of people running the Ground Control conversion kit its a bang for your buck big time but I wonder how they are on the track and DD
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The answer is basically "no". However, with high-end dampers, stiffer springs can be used on the street and the ride will still be street friendly.

Spring rates depend on whether you're looking for a street, track or dual-purpose suspension setup. Based on your OP, it sounds like you are looking for a dual-purpose setup biased more toward a track setup? Are you looking at the TCK SA or DA dampers?
exactly. i am looking for something for the street but also a lot of track time. Im looking at the TCK single adjustable coilovers. what spring rate and camber plates do you guys suggest i go with?
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If you have EDC i see a lot of people running the Ground Control conversion kit its a bang for your buck big time but I wonder how they are on the track and DD
i was actually talking about the full coilover ground control kit. i think I'm going to go with something better though. TC kline, Ast, jrz.
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exactly. i am looking for something for the street but also a lot of track time. Im looking at the TCK single adjustable coilovers. what spring rate and camber plates do you guys suggest i go with?
If you are considering TCK suspension setups then I'd recommend contacting TCK, BimmerWorld or VAC directly and discussing with them your suspension goals.

For a more track-biased setup I'd recommend the TCK DA setup over the SA setup or JRZ, MCS or Ohlins dampers.
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i was actually talking about the full coilover ground control kit. i think I'm going to go with something better though. TC kline, Ast, jrz.
do they all support EDC?
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do they all support EDC?
No. Only sleeve-over kits reuse the stock EDC dampers.
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