BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > E90/E92 M3 Technical Topics > Suspension | Brakes | Chassis
 
OneEighty
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      11-21-2012, 01:37 PM   #1
PayaumShoushaniE92
Private
2
Rep
86
Posts

 
Drives: Black E92 m3
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: beverly hills

iTrader: (0)

Best coilover kit

hi i currently have the rd sport springs on my car and i am looking to upgrade to coilovers. i have been looking around for a while now but cannot decide which is the best all around. My choices are kw v3s, kw clubsports, ground control kit, bill stein pss10. I track about 3 to 4 times a month so i want something more rough compared to a smooth ride. Please let me know any suggestions you guys have on shocks or coil over kits. thank you so much
Appreciate 0
      11-21-2012, 02:14 PM   #2
phrozen06
NA V8
phrozen06's Avatar
28
Rep
1,553
Posts

 
Drives: 01 330ci, 08 M3 DCT, 08 VW R32
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: 3927'33"N 7758'04"W W. Virgina, Kansas

iTrader: (2)

clear your mailbox.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      11-21-2012, 02:23 PM   #3
tom @ eas
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
tom @ eas's Avatar
United_States
326
Rep
10,625
Posts


 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA

iTrader: (13)

Garage List
Opinions will vary, but my choice would be the KW Clubsports from the list you've provided.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      11-21-2012, 02:24 PM   #4
PayaumShoushaniE92
Private
2
Rep
86
Posts

 
Drives: Black E92 m3
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: beverly hills

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by tom @ eas View Post
Opinions will vary, but my choice would be the KW Clubsports from the list you've provided.
Thank you tom. Would you say the clubsports are easily better than the ground control kit?
Appreciate 0
      11-21-2012, 03:08 PM   #5
tom @ eas
BimmerPost Supporting Vendor
tom @ eas's Avatar
United_States
326
Rep
10,625
Posts


 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Nov 2005
Location: Anaheim, CA

iTrader: (13)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92 View Post
Thank you tom. Would you say the clubsports are easily better than the ground control kit?
Don't know many people with the GC kits, so I wouldn't be the one to ask.



We did place 3rd using the KW Motorsport kit in GTA just a couple of weeks ago, KW was part of the team that made it happen.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      11-21-2012, 03:35 PM   #6
Rapture
I'm suckin gas but I'm haulin ass
Rapture's Avatar
United_States
12
Rep
656
Posts

 
Drives: 2011 MR E92 M3
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: OC, CA

iTrader: (13)

After going from the Ground Control kit to KW V3 I can say there is a night and day difference. I can assume the KW Clubsport is even better than the already great KW V3, but seems to be more track oriented which is why I went V3 for my daily driver. I got my set up from EAS and had them install and I couldn't be happier.

I would strongly recommend to stay away from Ground Control though, I had nothing but bad experiences with their product and customer service.
Appreciate 0
      11-22-2012, 01:03 PM   #7
bigjae1976
That's what she said...
bigjae1976's Avatar
83
Rep
5,623
Posts

 
Drives: 11 E90 M3 Individual
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Milwaukee, WI

iTrader: (12)

Garage List
2004 BMW M3  [4.50]
2011 BMW E90 M3  [5.00]
2013 BMW 328i  [5.00]
3-4 times per month? Damn!

Why not just go all out and get something like the Moton or MCS?
__________________


Sponsored by Momentum BMW #593...We Bleed BMW BLUE!
Appreciate 0
      11-22-2012, 01:42 PM   #8
Porschefile
Major
Porschefile's Avatar
16
Rep
1,233
Posts

 
Drives: E92 M3
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Tennessee

iTrader: (6)

If you track that often you would be best served by either a KW clubsport, MCS, or JRZ RS. I love my KW CS, the ride is still civil on the street and they rock at the track. I will say that they don't feel quite as awesome as my friend's MCS though.
Appreciate 0
      11-22-2012, 08:27 PM   #9
PayaumShoushaniE92
Private
2
Rep
86
Posts

 
Drives: Black E92 m3
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: beverly hills

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Porschefile View Post
If you track that often you would be best served by either a KW clubsport, MCS, or JRZ RS. I love my KW CS, the ride is still civil on the street and they rock at the track. I will say that they don't feel quite as awesome as my friend's MCS though.
Moton and mcs are a little pricey for me. i am looking for something in the price range of about 2 to 3k. Can you let me know what you guys recommend besides the kw cs. thank you so much
Appreciate 0
      11-22-2012, 08:46 PM   #10
bigjae1976
That's what she said...
bigjae1976's Avatar
83
Rep
5,623
Posts

 
Drives: 11 E90 M3 Individual
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Milwaukee, WI

iTrader: (12)

Garage List
2004 BMW M3  [4.50]
2011 BMW E90 M3  [5.00]
2013 BMW 328i  [5.00]
TC Kline and ASTs are good alternatives.
__________________


Sponsored by Momentum BMW #593...We Bleed BMW BLUE!
Appreciate 0
      11-22-2012, 08:50 PM   #11
PayaumShoushaniE92
Private
2
Rep
86
Posts

 
Drives: Black E92 m3
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: beverly hills

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjae1976 View Post
TC Kline and ASTs are good alternatives.
thank you!!
Appreciate 0
      11-23-2012, 09:35 AM   #12
M3SQRD
Colonel
M3SQRD's Avatar
United_States
24
Rep
2,480
Posts

 
Drives: E92 M3s,R56 CooperS,F22 228iX
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: EC

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by bigjae1976 View Post
TC Kline.
+1 for TC Kline suspension options

Also, if you are willing to wait, the Ohlins R&T (DFV) suspension should be released soon.

For a ~$500 over your budget you could get a JRZ RS1 setup.
Appreciate 0
      11-23-2012, 11:13 AM   #13
Endless619
DHS
Endless619's Avatar
Spain
54
Rep
3,930
Posts

 
Drives: 2014 Range Rover Black Edition
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Disneyland

iTrader: (14)

Garage List
I ran KW V3's on my E46 M3 back in the day and liked them. They are the best bang for your buck.

However, if I was in my NSX I would not go with any of these setups as they were considered cheap and not on par with Moton, Aragosta, Ohlins, etc.

I ran the Aragosta and Ohlins on my old NSX and the KW brand was not even on the same playing field. But for BMWs they arent all that bad. I have had so many suspension setups the past 20 years I would have to say the Aragosta (Tuned by Top Secret) was my best setup.

Good luck.
Appreciate 0
      11-23-2012, 12:02 PM   #14
PayaumShoushaniE92
Private
2
Rep
86
Posts

 
Drives: Black E92 m3
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: beverly hills

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Endless619 View Post
I ran KW V3's on my E46 M3 back in the day and liked them. They are the best bang for your buck.

However, if I was in my NSX I would not go with any of these setups as they were considered cheap and not on par with Moton, Aragosta, Ohlins, etc.

I ran the Aragosta and Ohlins on my old NSX and the KW brand was not even on the same playing field. But for BMWs they arent all that bad. I have had so many suspension setups the past 20 years I would have to say the Aragosta (Tuned by Top Secret) was my best setup.

Good luck.
thank you so much for your help. Where can you get aragosta coilover for the e92 m3? And approximately how much do they go for?
Appreciate 0
      11-23-2012, 12:04 PM   #15
PayaumShoushaniE92
Private
2
Rep
86
Posts

 
Drives: Black E92 m3
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: beverly hills

iTrader: (0)

one more question for you guys.. For example I'm looking at tc kline shocks and you get to choose what spring rate you want. Are the high spring rates more comfortable?
Appreciate 0
      11-23-2012, 12:17 PM   #16
M3SQRD
Colonel
M3SQRD's Avatar
United_States
24
Rep
2,480
Posts

 
Drives: E92 M3s,R56 CooperS,F22 228iX
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: EC

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92 View Post
one more question for you guys.. For example I'm looking at tc kline shocks and you get to choose what spring rate you want. Are the high spring rates more comfortable?
The answer is basically "no". However, with high-end dampers, stiffer springs can be used on the street and the ride will still be street friendly.

Spring rates depend on whether you're looking for a street, track or dual-purpose suspension setup. Based on your OP, it sounds like you are looking for a dual-purpose setup biased more toward a track setup? Are you looking at the TCK SA or DA dampers?
Appreciate 0
      11-23-2012, 12:21 PM   #17
e92livin
Captain
e92livin's Avatar
Canada
10
Rep
933
Posts

 
Drives: M3
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (5)

If you have EDC i see a lot of people running the Ground Control conversion kit its a bang for your buck big time but I wonder how they are on the track and DD
Appreciate 0
      11-23-2012, 12:31 PM   #18
PayaumShoushaniE92
Private
2
Rep
86
Posts

 
Drives: Black E92 m3
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: beverly hills

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by M3SQRD View Post
The answer is basically "no". However, with high-end dampers, stiffer springs can be used on the street and the ride will still be street friendly.

Spring rates depend on whether you're looking for a street, track or dual-purpose suspension setup. Based on your OP, it sounds like you are looking for a dual-purpose setup biased more toward a track setup? Are you looking at the TCK SA or DA dampers?
exactly. i am looking for something for the street but also a lot of track time. Im looking at the TCK single adjustable coilovers. what spring rate and camber plates do you guys suggest i go with?
Appreciate 0
      11-23-2012, 12:33 PM   #19
PayaumShoushaniE92
Private
2
Rep
86
Posts

 
Drives: Black E92 m3
Join Date: Oct 2011
Location: beverly hills

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by e92livin View Post
If you have EDC i see a lot of people running the Ground Control conversion kit its a bang for your buck big time but I wonder how they are on the track and DD
i was actually talking about the full coilover ground control kit. i think I'm going to go with something better though. TC kline, Ast, jrz.
Appreciate 0
      11-23-2012, 12:43 PM   #20
M3SQRD
Colonel
M3SQRD's Avatar
United_States
24
Rep
2,480
Posts

 
Drives: E92 M3s,R56 CooperS,F22 228iX
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: EC

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92 View Post
exactly. i am looking for something for the street but also a lot of track time. Im looking at the TCK single adjustable coilovers. what spring rate and camber plates do you guys suggest i go with?
If you are considering TCK suspension setups then I'd recommend contacting TCK, BimmerWorld or VAC directly and discussing with them your suspension goals.

For a more track-biased setup I'd recommend the TCK DA setup over the SA setup or JRZ, MCS or Ohlins dampers.
Appreciate 0
      11-23-2012, 12:45 PM   #21
e92livin
Captain
e92livin's Avatar
Canada
10
Rep
933
Posts

 
Drives: M3
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by PayaumShoushaniE92 View Post
i was actually talking about the full coilover ground control kit. i think I'm going to go with something better though. TC kline, Ast, jrz.
do they all support EDC?
Appreciate 0
      11-23-2012, 12:56 PM   #22
M3SQRD
Colonel
M3SQRD's Avatar
United_States
24
Rep
2,480
Posts

 
Drives: E92 M3s,R56 CooperS,F22 228iX
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: EC

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by e92livin View Post
do they all support EDC?
No. Only sleeve-over kits reuse the stock EDC dampers.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:18 PM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST