E92 M3 To Gtr

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by Optherion

That being said. The interior was actually pretty brilliant on the s2000. A pure sports car with no frills. Two knobs for the air, and 2 buttons for the radio which were on the drivers side so your passengers couldnt fuck with it? Who knows why they put it there. They threw a huge digital tach in the center much like the racelogic LCD I have in my race car. Pretty simple and effective. However the s2000 is a one off platform car and our M3's are modified 3 series. They still and carry a generic interior over the entire lineup. The new 3 series and 6 series interior is a bit refreshing. At least its not as bad as audis a6 which I find hideous.

Hey, we actually agree on something

The S2K has a perfect driver's setup, awesome gearshift/trans, and perfect pedal placement. The digital dash didn't take me too long to get used to it plus it had the "IndyCar" PI dash look to it - I preferred the AP2 dash over the AP1 because the redline was closer to the center of the dash, although I did/do miss the "rush" from 8 to 9k rpm with the AP1/F20C

The new 6 series does have a well integrated interior design - hey, we agree on two things

[CSanto]

Originally Posted by alms211

The GTR is not a good DD.....and it isn't very pretty IMO. Those were the reasons I didn't entertain one.

I'll agree on the fact that its not a good DD.

Although with each year owners say they've been tweaking the suspension to ride a little nicer. I only drove a 2009 GTR. It was very harsh. It rode harder than my fathers Scuderia, but I loved the Scud for weekend driving...nothing I've ever driven has come remotely close.

[alms211]

Good point HREM3 --- I drove a '10 myself. Perhaps the latest models do ride better. I am open minded enough to condition my opinion on that.

[UnaBomber]

my 10 drove pretty hard stock.

Now I have JRZ RS PRO coilovers and it rides like a dream on the street

[Optherion]

Originally Posted by alms211

If you can't comprehend what I just posted then you are the one that is confused and lost. It's very simple. The car is noisy (transmission noises, rear end gearing noises, etc.) and too rough riding to be used as a daily driver for me. For godsake go read NAGTROC and there are tons of owners there that say the same damn thing. Doesn't make them want to sell the car or make it a bad car. It just means they don't use it as a DD for the same reasons I just stated.

As far as one's butt hurting goes, I think it is you and others that get so "butt hurt" when anybody says anything negative about a GTR. I've said it many times, I think they are wonderful cars...just not for me. Why can't you people just accept the fact that there are tons of people out there that just like what they like? Its why Baskin Robbins makes 64 flavors.

LOL obviously you couldn't sense my sarcasm and I love trolling forums when I find someones weakness. Yours is anytime a GT-R is mentioned you get your panties in a twist, so I like to get at it sometimes late at night after a few beers I could talk shit on the GT-R all day and dislikes, but dont even get me started. I could do the same about BMW. Im picky and I have owned many cars of many flavors to compare it to.

Dont be so damn serious. My grandma said my 7 series rides rough and why on earth would I drive it to dinner and pick her up. The funny part is the reason you mentioned the GT-R being a bad DD is not the reason I find mine a bad DD. The ride is actually great "FOR ITS PERFORMANCE LEVEL". Night and day better than my 997.2 gt3. If it rides rough for you, I would stick to the luxury sports cars like an aston, m6 or a Jag. I would put it up there with anyone who daily drives a Ford GT or Challenge Stradale. Of all the cars in the performance of the GT-R, the only one I can think that actually rides more comfortable is MAYBE a 997 turbo. Trans noise? Its only clunky when coming to a dead stop. The car doesn't like being driven slow. It likes throttle and torque.

The bad DD for me is that the car attracts too much attention and with a modified exhaust its too loud to use the car phone and conduct business. I find myself lugging the engine so clients dont ask "are you in a race car?"
You have to think twice before you park it at the mall or near anyone who is careless with their doors.

[M3PO]

Originally Posted by alms211

Uhmmmm, it's MY choice and I don't need someone pontificating on the rationale of why "anyone would pick an M3 over a GTR". I drove a GTR and it isn't a friendly DD car. It makes a thousand different noises and the ride quality is poor for something you are going to drive every day. Good enough for you?

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Originally Posted by konaforever

I have no complaints for the GTR as a DD. Comfy, fast and spacious. It's a bit firm ride wise, but I like that.

[skins333]

completely agree

Originally Posted by HREM3

As far as I'm concerned there are only three arguments for not having a GTR over an M3.

1) I didnt want to spend that much on a car
2) I didnt want to pay the high cost of maintenance on the GTR (which is a moot point since the total cost of ownership is probably still higher in the M3 since the M depreciates much more rapidly)
3) The Car HAD to be a 6MT.

[NavidM3E92]

Audi interior >>>> GTR, M3 interior

[1MOREMOD]

Originally Posted by Optherion

I like to get at it sometimes late at night after a few beers

funny me too.

[Sakred]

Originally Posted by compm3e92m3

Audi interior >>>> GTR >> M3 interior

I have to agree on this with a slight adjustment .

[Alex07M3]

Originally Posted by compm3e92m3

Audi interior >>>> GTR, M3 interior

specially the ones in Europe!!

[mattixxg]

Originally Posted by M3SQRD

Hyundai interior nicer than M3 interior

GTR interior nicer than M3 interior - GTR interior looks like a video game plus there's no comparison between the GTR and M3 exteriors, at least IMO.

Video game? lol people are still using that?
The M3s interior is very boring visually when compared to the GTR or the Clutter Hyundai...possible visual overkill. Thats simply fact dude.
It doesnt even look like a sleek simplistic design..it really looks plain.

Relax the fanboyism (Fanboyism = BMW could come out with an interior that looks like garbage on purpose, but because its BMW, youll think its still KEWL and GR8!!!)

Originally Posted by Optherion

Yes the Hyundai Sonata has better design. Look at the photos. If you think the M3 is better in interior design you need to get your eyes checked.

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Materials aside, the design on many cars interior is much better than the m3, some cars are even worse. I actually can see where she is coming from. The girl doesnt know what carbon fiber is or carbon stamped leather. Come on. Most people dont. I think the S class Mercedes is awful. Our BMW M3 is pretty damn plain. Look at the center console vs the New 6 series and new 3 series. Cover it in leather and it makes it better? I think not. If I cover my entire interior in gold leaf, that doesnt make it better. I actually think the e46 had a better interior design than the e92. The e46 had a more cockpit feel with the center console directed towards you.

Dont even get me started on the last gen 5 series and 6 series. It looks like they stuck the buttons on a left over blank face plate. The entire bottom piece is used for 2 tiny heated seats buttons.

Originally Posted by HREM3

As far as I'm concerned there are only three arguments for not having a GTR over an M3.

1) I didnt want to spend that much on a car
2) I didnt want to pay the high cost of maintenance on the GTR (which is a moot point since the total cost of ownership is probably still higher in the M3 since the M depreciates much more rapidly)
3) The Car HAD to be a 6MT.

Well and the exterior. Some think the gtr is ugly. I think the BMW looks more "sleek", if you will, as the GTR looks like a transformer. Its definitely polarizing and "stands out" much more than a base M3.

Originally Posted by Optherion

I dont see that you made any points that explain why its a bad DD?

Confused. Lost.... So why is it a bad DD? Did it hurt your butt?

Had me cracking up!

Originally Posted by compm3e92m3

Audi interior >>>> GTR, M3 interior

Def agree on this.

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by mattixxg

Video game? lol people are still using that?
The M3s interior is very boring visually when compared to the GTR or the Clutter Hyundai...possible visual overkill. Thats simply fact dude.
It doesnt even look like a sleek simplistic design..it really looks plain.

Relax the fanboyism (Fanboyism = BMW could come out with an interior that looks like garbage on purpose, but because its BMW, youll think its still KEWL and GR8!!!)

Fanboy?

I never stated the M3 "has the best interior design EVER". I stated my opinion about what I thought about the Hyundai and Nissan interiors.

[NavidM3E92]

Originally Posted by Sakred

I have to agree on this with a slight adjustment .

I wish i could take that interior and put it in a GTR lol

[Brucewonder]

im not a fan of Audi interiors...too busy. But the GTR pulls off its exterior and interior perfectly. Both exterior and interior are well balanced and suits the car. Picture a GTR with a nice Euro interior...doesnt look right imo.

[CPWINCH]

Originally Posted by Sakred

GTR Interior >> BMW M3 Interior
GTR Performance>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>M3 performance

+100
theres no arguing this.

[Skullbussa]

The GT-R is a great daily driver provided you don't need easy access to the back seats. The torque and transmission set to auto mode make it a dream, much less fatiguing than many would have you believe. It is not a hard riding car, especially on Michelin Pilot Super Sports. Put it into Comfort mode and it is no harder riding than a G37 coupe.

[1MOREMOD]

i just went to the seatle auto show yesterday and sat in both the new 3 series and the s4 and bmw kinda has shit the bed in the interior department. i dont like the triangle center console that houses the idrvie knob or the look of the screen sticking out of the dash. audi interior is much much better looking. im also not a fan of the new exterior changes on the 3. time to jump ship.

[DropItLow]

Originally Posted by HREM3

I'll agree on the fact that its not a good DD.

Although with each year owners say they've been tweaking the suspension to ride a little nicer. I only drove a 2009 GTR. It was very harsh. It rode harder than my fathers Scuderia, but I loved the Scud for weekend driving...nothing I've ever driven has come remotely close.

It's a harsh ride due to the run flats. I just switched to non-run flats and it's a night and day difference. That being said, comfort mode on my gt-r is about the same as the harsh setting on my 2011zcp that I had.

To the guy that said the car made too many noises to be used as a daily. Don't see how that's relevant to someone that likes to drive their cars every day. I dd'ed my 2010 gt-r for 10 months and the noises never bothered me once. Road noise and various other transmission sounds are just preference. When I say I DD my GT-R, I put 22,000 miles on it over the past year.

I've never once had someone in my car say "wow this thing is loud". My durango that has mud terrain tires on it right now is a totally different story but I still daily that.

Ask 10 people what they consider a 'good daily driver' and you'll get 10 different answers.

[mpbruin108]

Originally Posted by unclejesse1

+1 a Badge Whore

I don't think its as much as a badge whore but more of a brand reputation recognition thing. If lincoln came out with a 600 hp car as fast as a GTR, no matter how good the car is, I would be hesitant because it is a Lincoln. Brand recognition exists for reason among everything you choose so I can't fault someone for that.

[Optherion]

Originally Posted by mpbruin108

I don't think its as much as a badge whore but more of a brand reputation recognition thing. If lincoln came out with a 600 hp car as fast as a GTR, no matter how good the car is, I would be hesitant because it is a Lincoln. Brand recognition exists for reason among everything you choose so I can't fault someone for that.

You might, but I would buy a 600hp lincoln. Hell yah. Put the Cobra motor in a Lincoln as some CTS-V competition.

My buddy has a Lincoln Towncar already with a Ford Racing supercharged aluminator motor. Car runs low 11's with 4 people in it and would make any M3 driver shit their pants.

[jerseygirl]

i like its acceleration. i hope the new M3 is in the mid 3s 0-60