213E OEM software: The best NA mod... - Page 31

GIdriver · 11-03-2012, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by aus

Is this DCT update automatically done, or do we need to complain about something?

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Intrested to know as well.

Chriskm3 · 11-03-2012, 06:38 AM

Just had it done. Nice cheap update. Good throttle response. Quiter cold start. CAr seems to be more responsive Throughout the rpm range. Thanks guys

adc · 11-07-2012, 11:04 PM

Got the car back from the dealer, all updated with the latest ECU SW and DSC SW. From the first hundred yards after some nice oversteer out of the dealer lot, I could tell the car was faster, better, more responsive.

They did this update to fix a SES with a throttle valve actuator error code. I wonder if it's the same type of trouble that has seen a few forum members replace the throttle actuators, at $800 a pop. If BMW thinks they can cure this with SW, it may be a cheaper alternative.

If you have the chance to get this update, based on my experience i say don't hesitate.

Bmw135er · 11-07-2012, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by ///Lyubm

I wonder if ESS have updated tune for 240E

Yes they do, mine was done today. I updated the at last week and drove it a few days with stock software. I was out of town and didn't get a chance to update the ESS software until today. Definitely feeling much better now, I have the Akra specific tune and a drop in filter. I almost switched to the BPM software, but I can reload the ESS for no cost. That makes it an easy decision, though after reading this thread I still may let Mike tune my car in the spring. It's about to be stored for the winter...
Great info Mike, you definitely know your stuff!

RBB · 11-08-2012, 10:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by adc

Got the car back from the dealer, all updated with the latest ECU SW and DSC SW. From the first hundred yards after some nice oversteer out of the dealer lot, I could tell the car was faster, better, more responsive.

They did this update to fix a SES with a throttle valve actuator error code. I wonder if it's the same type of trouble that has seen a few forum members replace the throttle actuators, at $800 a pop. If BMW thinks they can cure this with SW, it may be a cheaper alternative.

If you have the chance to get this update, based on my experience i say don't hesitate.

They tried that with me over the summer. I had a SES related to the throttle actuator. Dealer insisted on updating the software first because they claimed it had cleared up the same issue in some cases. All was well for about 5 days after the update, but the car started throwing the same code again and I had to go in for the replacement.

Mike Benvo · 11-09-2012, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bmw135er

Yes they do, mine was done today. I updated the at last week and drove it a few days with stock software. I was out of town and didn't get a chance to update the ESS software until today. Definitely feeling much better now, I have the Akra specific tune and a drop in filter. I almost switched to the BPM software, but I can reload the ESS for no cost. That makes it an easy decision, though after reading this thread I still may let Mike tune my car in the spring. It's about to be stored for the winter...
Great info Mike, you definitely know your stuff!

Thank you... If you do decide to go with it, you will love it. It's a world of difference. Many cables have been shipping so hopefully we see some reviews on it here. All previous customers please contact me for a free update to 240E.

Thanks
Mike

Bmw135er · 11-11-2012, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

Thank you... If you do decide to go with it, you will love it. It's a world of difference. Many cables have been shipping so hopefully we see some reviews on it here. All previous customers please contact me for a free update to 240E.

Thanks
Mike

Shoot me a PM with some details and I'll consider it. I know you're busy and I'm not in a huge rush. I'm curious what to expect in terms of drivability differences vs the ESS tune I currently have.
I'm in Colorado and won't be driving the car over the winter. I also have a couple friends that will be looking to do some mods in the spring so maybe I can persuade them your way as well.
Thanks in advance Mike!

checkmate · 11-12-2012, 05:06 PM

Guys,

I have a 2011 E90 and guess what-no 231E, 240E or 240EE. In the interest of keeping this simple, what software update should I be asking my stealer for ?

Is it E89X-12-07-507? Hope an expert can chime in. Thanks!

Bmw135er · 11-12-2012, 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by checkmate

Guys,

I have a 2011 E90 and guess what-no 231E, 240E or 240EE. In the interest of keeping this simple, what software update should I be asking my stealer for ?

Is it E89X-12-07-507? Hope an expert can chime in. Thanks!

That corresponds to ISTA/P 2.47, which is the current version until this week. Which means you have 240E. I also believe you misspoke and meant dealer.

checkmate · 11-13-2012, 01:25 PM

Its crazy-having talked to two local dealers-their prices vary from $220-$335 for the software update. They also advised against doing it unless there is a problem with the car. They gave me a lengthy disclaimer as to the 'side effects' from updating the software which could result in a number of errors.

Wondering what my options are....feel free to advise peeps.

THE TECH · 11-13-2012, 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by checkmate

Its crazy-having talked to two local dealers-their prices vary from $220-$335. Highway robbery? I think so...

You have to remember than when a dealer does the work, they HAVE to update the whole car. They don't get to pick and choose what items get updated. This can mean several hours of labor.

M3PO · 11-13-2012, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by checkmate

Its crazy-having talked to two local dealers-their prices vary from $220-$335 for the software update. They also advised against doing it unless there is a problem with the car. They gave me a lengthy disclaimer as to the 'side effects' from updating the software which could result in a number of errors.

Wondering what my options are....feel free to advise peeps.

My understanding is that it can take up to six hours if it has been a long time since the car was updated. The longer it's been since the last update the more modules will likely need to be updated. That price is 2 to 3 hours labor which is not bad IMO.

tom @ eas · 11-13-2012, 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by checkmate

Its crazy-having talked to two local dealers-their prices vary from $220-$335 for the software update. They also advised against doing it unless there is a problem with the car. They gave me a lengthy disclaimer as to the 'side effects' from updating the software which could result in a number of errors.

Wondering what my options are....feel free to advise peeps.

IMHO: That money can easily be put towards the ESS E-Flash - with an overall result of 240E and the benefits of a performance flash.

Simply weigh your options, let me know if you want to go the ESS route.

faith&firepower · 11-13-2012, 02:11 PM

I dropped my E90 off yesterday, and they were still flashing a few hours before COB. I haven't heard anything back today yet, but at least I have a nice new X3 to bop around in......I wonder how my german shepherd would like a ride

checkmate · 11-13-2012, 02:28 PM

I wasn't expecting to pay more than $150 considering the feedback received on this thread and other forums. Having talked to a BMW tech-he advised that the update should not take more than 1.5hrs.

**Update-I negotiated the software update at the dealer for the price point I can live with. That being said, will this void my warranty even if my car does not need it at this juncture?

italyix · 11-13-2012, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by checkmate

I wasn't expecting to pay more than $150 considering the feedback received on this thread and other forums. Having talked to a BMW tech-he advised that the update should not take more than 1.5hrs.

**Update-I negotiated the software update at the dealer for the price point I can live with. That being said, will this void my warranty even if my car does not need it at this juncture?

My dealer said it will void the modules warranty, as it is a customer directed update and not a required one by BMW, should the modules break/burn up during the updating process.

Dynamico · 11-13-2012, 04:42 PM

I just took the car in for maintenance and to check spark plugs cause I have 39k miles and they have never been changed, I also told the SA about the shifting lag from 2nd to 3rd and the downshifting problem.

Anyway he says that it will never go away, so I asked about the software and if they can upgrade it and he says they will check that when the car is in. I gave the SA a call to see how everything was going and asked him about the Software and if anything was looking into it. He responded saying yeah urs is up to date, that there is only one newer version but its for newer m3 models that mine doesn't accept it, and he also said "I think it has like 4.1 or something". Oh and he also said that a light will come on specifying that the spark plugs need to be changed, that it is not based on miles.

How can I get an actual paper saying what software version I have? Because I don't want to think he is telling me they checked, but in reality they didn't do anything...

I gotta pick up the M tomorrow cause they are changing the break caliper sensor, so I want to make sure I can call him before they are actually done with the car and clear everything up. Thanks in advance guys!!

Bmw135er · 11-13-2012, 04:59 PM

Your spark plug replacements are linked to every third oil service, along with your differential and transmission fluid changes provided you do not have DCT. DCT fluid is lifetime/100k.
You can ask them what the integration level (i-level) your car is and that can be cross-referenced as to which programming version your car has. It can be read out of your key and should be attached to your work order as well. Take checkmate's i-level above and the corresponding version I posted for it as an example.

Dynamico · 11-13-2012, 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bmw135er

Your spark plug replacements are linked to every third oil service, along with your differential and transmission fluid changes provided you do not have DCT. DCT fluid is lifetime/100k.
You can ask them what the integration level (i-level) your car is and that can be cross-referenced as to which programming version your car has. It can be read out of your key and should be attached to your work order as well. Take checkmate's i-level above and the corresponding version I posted for it as an example.

What he gave me today in the morning was a Motor Vehicle Repair Registration Cert, and I don't think it contains the i-level cause I searched it everywhere. Should I write to him and tell him to tell me the integration level of the car is, since he read the key in the morning? or wait till pick up tomorrow to see it?

adc · 11-13-2012, 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by checkmate

I wasn't expecting to pay more than $150 considering the feedback received on this thread and other forums. Having talked to a BMW tech-he advised that the update should not take more than 1.5hrs.

**Update-I negotiated the software update at the dealer for the price point I can live with. That being said, will this void my warranty even if my car does not need it at this juncture?

I asked my SA about the SW level as per my PM, but was unsuccessful in obtaining the exact information. All I was able to get from him was that the car took the update correctly, and so it is currently at the most recent level. Seeing as they don't pick and older SW version unless the car has a problem with the newer one, I'd say I am as reasonable as possible that it is now running the latest SW. I know it doesn't really answer your question, but it's the best I could do.

In regards to the warranty, my SA told me the warranty on the car stays intact if they do the reflashing successfully, no matter who requests it and who pays for it. According to him, one of the reasons he tends to discourage his clients from asking for an update is that during the update process, various electronic modules have been known to crap out occasionally - in a situation like this, the customer is on the hook for said modules if they requested the reflash in the first place.

Given this information, I think if you want to reflash your ECU you are better off with an aftermarket vendor who should take responsibility for the entire process.

Bmw135er · 11-13-2012, 08:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dynamico

Should I write to him and tell him to tell me the integration level of the car is, since he read the key in the morning? or wait till pick up tomorrow to see it?

You should just be able to ask him when you pick up the car. The post up what it is, or PM me and I'll tell you what version you have. Provided you can't find it online that is

ERinEC · 11-14-2012, 12:31 PM

I was just informed by the dealer that my 2011 E92 has E89X-10-09-511 and that unless the car is throwing a code, no need to upgrade.

Could I benefit from an upgrade? This appears to be a rather dated version.

11-07-2012, 11:04 PM	#663
adc Brigadier General Drives: 2009 E90 M3 ED Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: MD/DC Posts: 3,983 iTrader: (6)	Got the car back from the dealer, all updated with the latest ECU SW and DSC SW. From the first hundred yards after some nice oversteer out of the dealer lot, I could tell the car was faster, better, more responsive. They did this update to fix a SES with a throttle valve actuator error code. I wonder if it's the same type of trouble that has seen a few forum members replace the throttle actuators, at $800 a pop. If BMW thinks they can cure this with SW, it may be a cheaper alternative. If you have the chance to get this update, based on my experience i say don't hesitate. __________________ 2009 E90 M3 ED 2012 MINI Countryman S 2000 Boxster

11-12-2012, 05:06 PM	#668
checkmate Major Drives: AW M3 E90 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bel Air, MD Posts: 1,037 iTrader: (2)	Guys, I have a 2011 E90 and guess what-no 231E, 240E or 240EE. In the interest of keeping this simple, what software update should I be asking my stealer for ? Is it E89X-12-07-507? Hope an expert can chime in. Thanks! __________________ I have no idols. I admire work, dedication and competence.-Ayrton Senna

11-13-2012, 01:25 PM	#670
checkmate Major Drives: AW M3 E90 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bel Air, MD Posts: 1,037 iTrader: (2)	Its crazy-having talked to two local dealers-their prices vary from $220-$335 for the software update. They also advised against doing it unless there is a problem with the car. They gave me a lengthy disclaimer as to the 'side effects' from updating the software which could result in a number of errors. Wondering what my options are....feel free to advise peeps. __________________ I have no idols. I admire work, dedication and competence.-Ayrton Senna

11-13-2012, 02:11 PM	#674
faith&firepower Granny Shifting, Not Double Clutching Like You Drives: 2008 M3 Sedan Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Back in MI Posts: 103 iTrader: (0)	I dropped my E90 off yesterday, and they were still flashing a few hours before COB. I haven't heard anything back today yet, but at least I have a nice new X3 to bop around in......I wonder how my german shepherd would like a ride __________________ 08' E90 M3 - Not Enough Mods To List....

11-13-2012, 02:28 PM	#675
checkmate Major Drives: AW M3 E90 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Bel Air, MD Posts: 1,037 iTrader: (2)	I wasn't expecting to pay more than $150 considering the feedback received on this thread and other forums. Having talked to a BMW tech-he advised that the update should not take more than 1.5hrs. Update-I negotiated the software update at the dealer for the price point I can live with. That being said, will this void my warranty even if my car does not need it at this juncture? __________________ I have no idols. I admire work, dedication and competence.-Ayrton Senna** Last edited by checkmate; 11-13-2012 at 03:03 PM.

11-03-2012, 06:38 AM	#662
Chriskm3 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Toronto Posts: 1,990 iTrader: (3)	Just had it done. Nice cheap update. Good throttle response. Quiter cold start. CAr seems to be more responsive Throughout the rpm range. Thanks guys

11-13-2012, 04:42 PM	#677
Dynamico Enlisted Member Drives: '09 M3 E90 DCT Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Miami Florida Posts: 35 iTrader: (0)	I just took the car in for maintenance and to check spark plugs cause I have 39k miles and they have never been changed, I also told the SA about the shifting lag from 2nd to 3rd and the downshifting problem. Anyway he says that it will never go away, so I asked about the software and if they can upgrade it and he says they will check that when the car is in. I gave the SA a call to see how everything was going and asked him about the Software and if anything was looking into it. He responded saying yeah urs is up to date, that there is only one newer version but its for newer m3 models that mine doesn't accept it, and he also said "I think it has like 4.1 or something". Oh and he also said that a light will come on specifying that the spark plugs need to be changed, that it is not based on miles. How can I get an actual paper saying what software version I have? Because I don't want to think he is telling me they checked, but in reality they didn't do anything... I gotta pick up the M tomorrow cause they are changing the break caliper sensor, so I want to make sure I can call him before they are actually done with the car and clear everything up. Thanks in advance guys!! __________________

11-13-2012, 04:59 PM	#678
Bmw135er Major Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 1,441 iTrader: (9)	Your spark plug replacements are linked to every third oil service, along with your differential and transmission fluid changes provided you do not have DCT. DCT fluid is lifetime/100k. You can ask them what the integration level (i-level) your car is and that can be cross-referenced as to which programming version your car has. It can be read out of your key and should be attached to your work order as well. Take checkmate's i-level above and the corresponding version I posted for it as an example.

11-14-2012, 12:31 PM	#682
ERinEC Private First Class Drives: '11 AW E92 M3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: MD Posts: 111 iTrader: (0)	I was just informed by the dealer that my 2011 E92 has E89X-10-09-511 and that unless the car is throwing a code, no need to upgrade. Could I benefit from an upgrade? This appears to be a rather dated version.

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