A collection of saves

bigjae1976 · 11-10-2012, 11:03 AM

A fun video I made. If I don't say so myself...it came out pretty good. I've posted this once in the wrong forum so you may have seen this already.

None of the incidents were intentionally initiated. Just screwing up. The drifting practice/instruction I got saved me these 5 times plus a lot more.

The inspiration for this is Kaiv in this video...maybe someday I'll get to this level...

CanAutM3 · 11-10-2012, 03:08 PM

Cool vid

Mike van D · 11-11-2012, 04:55 AM

Good shots...quite a handful, but glad you enjoyed!

M3SQRD · 11-11-2012, 06:27 AM

Out having some fun

leo95se · 11-11-2012, 07:55 AM

impressive!! its hard to stay calm and correct like that.. i hope i can learn

paradocs98 · 11-11-2012, 08:37 AM

Great car control. I especially liked the last one--the transition was like a well-controlled tank-slapper.

bigjae1976 · 11-11-2012, 12:19 PM

Thanks. I've been working on pushing the car a little harder. Trying to keep the same braking zone, just less brakes to carry more speed through the turns. I keep reducing brake pressure until I find the limit...sometimes I go over.

Two things really helped my car control. First, the Performance Center Delivery...the morning driving exercises. Second, a drift practice with a great instructor.

CBS · 11-11-2012, 04:41 PM

Good vids and Great car control - thanks for sharing!

I'm planning for next year and more skidpad practice is tops.

Porschefile · 11-11-2012, 06:15 PM

Great video

Z K · 11-11-2012, 06:31 PM

Great fun!

L4ces · 11-11-2012, 06:46 PM

That was awesome. Those hands and feet were handling that baby! I wish I see more of this kind of stuff from the same perspective. I think I'll look into a drifting lesson too.

e92motorsports · 11-11-2012, 07:23 PM

Good car control!

1MOREMOD · 11-11-2012, 09:32 PM

nice work jae.

bigjae1976 · 11-11-2012, 10:14 PM

If you can slow down the videos you'll notice that my front tires are always pointed in the intended direction of travel, despite where the nose of the car is pointed. I'm just letting the rear go where it wants to go but keeping it in control with throttle.You have to let go of the steering wheel because the momentum of the back end and the grip of the front tires will keep the car going in the intended direction while making the steering adjustment for you. You cannot turn the wheel fast enough yourself. If you don't let the steering wheel travel freely then you basically shift weight off of one side of car and then the front end starts to chase the back end...hence a spin. The tricky part to learn is when to catch the wheel. At some point, you want to hold the rear in place so you can ease off the throttle and get everything back in line.

You do need to anticipate the rear coming around quickly to allow the steering wheel to spin. If you are a tad slow you will oscillate. I also learned the good thing about the E9X M3 is it has a LOT of opposite lock so you can get the car super sideways and hold it if you've got the cajones.

Again, I did one drift practice and I learned a ton from it. I credit those 3 hours and 2 rear tires with really increasing my confidence on the track. Car setup is not that different apparently. You want it to handle as balanced as possible...like the track. I highly recommend to at least try drifting with a good instructor at least once!

L4ces · 11-11-2012, 10:20 PM

Do you if the DSC was on?

bigjae1976 · 11-11-2012, 10:31 PM

Off...always.

W/// · 11-12-2012, 02:12 PM

Enjoyed the video! Makes me miss my E46 so much

kaiv · 11-12-2012, 06:38 PM

Nice vid ^^

Looks like you are pretty comfortable staying on the gas when the car gets sideways, and quick with your hands too! Keep it up!

bigjae1976 · 11-13-2012, 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kaiv

Nice vid ^^

Looks like you are pretty comfortable staying on the gas when the car gets sideways, and quick with your hands too! Keep it up!

Thanks!

nerwyll@trinityautosport · 11-13-2012, 12:55 PM

+1 good car control =)

11-10-2012, 11:03 AM	#1
bigjae1976 Brigadier General Drives: 04 330Ci, 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,145 iTrader: (8)	A collection of saves A fun video I made. If I don't say so myself...it came out pretty good. I've posted this once in the wrong forum so you may have seen this already. None of the incidents were intentionally initiated. Just screwing up. The drifting practice/instruction I got saved me these 5 times plus a lot more. The inspiration for this is Kaiv in this video...maybe someday I'll get to this level... __________________ Sponsored by Momentum BMW #593...We Bleed BMW BLUE!
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11-11-2012, 04:55 AM	#3
Mike van D Major Drives: SG X6 35i; MW e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 1,114 iTrader: (0)	Good shots...quite a handful, but glad you enjoyed! __________________ ...just enjoying life.

11-11-2012, 08:37 AM	#6
paradocs98 Major Drives: 2011 E90 M3 ZCP Join Date: May 2009 Location: NY Posts: 1,224 iTrader: (0)	Great car control. I especially liked the last one--the transition was like a well-controlled tank-slapper. __________________

11-11-2012, 12:19 PM	#7
bigjae1976 Brigadier General Drives: 04 330Ci, 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,145 iTrader: (8)	Thanks. I've been working on pushing the car a little harder. Trying to keep the same braking zone, just less brakes to carry more speed through the turns. I keep reducing brake pressure until I find the limit...sometimes I go over. Two things really helped my car control. First, the Performance Center Delivery...the morning driving exercises. Second, a drift practice with a great instructor. __________________ Sponsored by Momentum BMW #593...We Bleed BMW BLUE!

11-11-2012, 04:41 PM	#8
CBS Captain Drives: E90 M3 - E60 528xi Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Wilkes-Barre, PA Posts: 924 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2013 BMW X3 [0.00] 2011 BMW M3 E90 [4.83] 2009 BMW 528xi [0.00] 2008 BMW 328xi [0.00]	Good vids and Great car control - thanks for sharing! I'm planning for next year and more skidpad practice is tops. __________________ ESS VT-1 550 \| M24 Oil Cooler \| Fall Line Half Cage \| RaceTech 4009W \| 6 pt Harness \| Rear Seat Delete \| Motion Control DA Dampers w/remote reservoirs \| 900/650 Hyperco Springs \| RD Sport Sway Bars \| Brembo 380 BBK \| GC Camber Plates \| Michelin Cups \| GTS Black Wheels \| Eisenmann Sport \| Stack Gauges \| Painted Challenge Front Lip \| Painted ZCP Rear Spoiler \| Xpel Ultimate Film \| LuxAngelEyes

11-10-2012, 03:08 PM	#2
CanAutM3 Major Drives: 2008 E92 M3 SS2 DCT Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Montreal Posts: 1,350 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 [0.00] 2006 Audi S4 [0.00]	Cool vid

11-11-2012, 06:27 AM	#4
M3SQRD Colonel Drives: E92 M3s, R56 Cooper S Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EC Posts: 2,359 iTrader: (2)	Out having some fun

11-11-2012, 07:55 AM	#5
leo95se Lieutenant Drives: 09 JB e92, Q5 and passat Join Date: May 2009 Location: CT Posts: 401 iTrader: (1)	impressive!! its hard to stay calm and correct like that.. i hope i can learn

11-11-2012, 06:15 PM	#9
Porschefile Major Drives: E92 M3 DCT, E46, Formula Mazda Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,057 iTrader: (5)	Great video __________________ #18 Formula Mazda, Southeast Division SCCA

11-11-2012, 06:31 PM	#10
Z K Major Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: San Francisco Posts: 1,290 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2008 BMW E90 M3 [0.00]	Great fun!

11-11-2012, 06:46 PM	#11
L4ces Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Alpine White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 472 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	That was awesome. Those hands and feet were handling that baby! I wish I see more of this kind of stuff from the same perspective. I think I'll look into a drifting lesson too.

11-11-2012, 07:23 PM	#12
e92motorsports Halo Drives: E92 M3 Sparking Graphite Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Chicago Posts: 145 iTrader: (0)	Good car control!

11-11-2012, 09:32 PM	#13
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,603 iTrader: (3)	nice work jae. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Epic race tune\|race pulleys\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|

11-11-2012, 10:14 PM	#14
bigjae1976 Brigadier General Drives: 04 330Ci, 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,145 iTrader: (8)	If you can slow down the videos you'll notice that my front tires are always pointed in the intended direction of travel, despite where the nose of the car is pointed. I'm just letting the rear go where it wants to go but keeping it in control with throttle.You have to let go of the steering wheel because the momentum of the back end and the grip of the front tires will keep the car going in the intended direction while making the steering adjustment for you. You cannot turn the wheel fast enough yourself. If you don't let the steering wheel travel freely then you basically shift weight off of one side of car and then the front end starts to chase the back end...hence a spin. The tricky part to learn is when to catch the wheel. At some point, you want to hold the rear in place so you can ease off the throttle and get everything back in line. You do need to anticipate the rear coming around quickly to allow the steering wheel to spin. If you are a tad slow you will oscillate. I also learned the good thing about the E9X M3 is it has a LOT of opposite lock so you can get the car super sideways and hold it if you've got the cajones. Again, I did one drift practice and I learned a ton from it. I credit those 3 hours and 2 rear tires with really increasing my confidence on the track. Car setup is not that different apparently. You want it to handle as balanced as possible...like the track. I highly recommend to at least try drifting with a good instructor at least once! __________________ Sponsored by Momentum BMW #593...We Bleed BMW BLUE! Last edited by bigjae1976; 11-11-2012 at 10:19 PM.

11-11-2012, 10:20 PM	#15
L4ces Lieutenant Drives: 2008 E92 M3 Alpine White Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: Nj Posts: 472 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 M3 [0.00]	Do you if the DSC was on?

11-11-2012, 10:31 PM	#16
bigjae1976 Brigadier General Drives: 04 330Ci, 11 E90 M3 Individual Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 4,145 iTrader: (8)	Off...always. __________________ Sponsored by Momentum BMW #593...We Bleed BMW BLUE!

11-12-2012, 02:12 PM	#17
W/// Major Drives: E30 Vert & E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: SC Posts: 1,467 iTrader: (2)	Enjoyed the video! Makes me miss my E46 so much __________________ 2008 E92 M3: Sparkling Graphite \| Bamboo Beige \| 6MT \| CF Roof \| OEM ZCP Wheels \| Fully Catless Borla S-Type \| BPM Stage II Tune & Coding \| RS Technik Spacers (12F/12R)

11-12-2012, 06:38 PM	#18
kaiv Major Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: San Diego, CA Posts: 1,128 iTrader: (12)	Nice vid ^^ Looks like you are pretty comfortable staying on the gas when the car gets sideways, and quick with your hands too! Keep it up!

11-13-2012, 12:55 PM	#20
nerwyll@trinityautosport BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: Jet Black e92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 2,390 iTrader: (0)	+1 good car control =)

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