Airstrip Attack - 1/2 Mile Side by Side Roll Racing - Shift-S3ctor - Two Day Event...

[DLSJ5]

Hey guys, just got home and am exhausted. The car did very well, as I managed to win the tuner challenge. Adam's ESS VT600 did great, better than expected, IMHO, we both could not get traction and ran MDM all the time. The first day Adam was getting used to the car and botched a few runs, but by today he had it down and managed some impressive runs / kills, it was a lot of fun hanging out with him and all the enthusiasts that attended. There were a ton of BMW's out there and some incredible cars, what a blast. I had a little mishap with a boost leak, and then eventually my manifold lifted up and I had to call it a day, but the car still performed fantastic. Malek who attended the event was there, and your help with the manifold was great appreciated Broski! Vids will be posted here very soon.

HUGE Thanks to the Shift-S3ctor crew who worked extremely hard to make this happen, the event was very well organized and most importantly SAFE. Can't thank them enough for their hard word to make this happen for us.

[PrimoM3]

Originally Posted by DLSJ5

Hey guys, just got home and am exhausted. The car did very well, as I managed to win the tuner challenge. Adam's ESS VT600 did great, better than expected, IMHO, we both could not get traction and ran MDM all the time. The first day Adam was getting used to the car and botched a few runs, but by today he had it down and managed some impressive runs / kills, it was a lot of fun hanging out with him and all the enthusiasts that attended. There were a ton of BMW's out there and some incredible cars, what a blast. I had a little mishap with a boost leak, and then eventually my manifold lifted up and I had to call it a day, but the car still performed fantastic. Malek who attended the event was there, and your help with the manifold was great appreciated Broski! Vids will be posted here very soon.

HUGE Thanks to the Shift-S3ctor crew who worked extremely hard to make this happen, the event was very well organized and most importantly SAFE. Can't thank them enough for their hard word to make this happen for us.

Sounds like it was a great time for everyone. Can't wait to see the photos and videos. I've been refreshing YouTube like a meth addict looking for a fix.

[Team Plutonium]

Originally Posted by DLSJ5

Hey guys, just got home and am exhausted. The car did very well, as I managed to win the tuner challenge. Adam's ESS VT600 did great, better than expected, IMHO, we both could not get traction and ran MDM all the time. The first day Adam was getting used to the car and botched a few runs, but by today he had it down and managed some impressive runs / kills, it was a lot of fun hanging out with him and all the enthusiasts that attended. There were a ton of BMW's out there and some incredible cars, what a blast. I had a little mishap with a boost leak, and then eventually my manifold lifted up and I had to call it a day, but the car still performed fantastic. Malek who attended the event was there, and your help with the manifold was great appreciated Broski! Vids will be posted here very soon.

HUGE Thanks to the Shift-S3ctor crew who worked extremely hard to make this happen, the event was very well organized and most importantly SAFE. Can't thank them enough for their hard word to make this happen for us.

Awesome! Congrats, Drew!

[aus]

Thanks for the update. Congrats on the win.

What's up with the leak and manifold lifitng up ??

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by aus

Thanks for the update. Congrats on the win.

What's up with the leak and manifold lifitng up ??

All part of the R&D process on a car with 300whp over stock, the car peformed flawlessly otherwise. I noticed the AFR's were very rich during Saturday's runs and wasn't sure why, and then on Sunday during a run the mainfold lifted off the TB boots. Malek fixed it, we went out again and the car ran great, but then on the 2nd run after the fix it lifted again while running a very fast Alpha 7.5 GTR on race gas, we were slightly ahead when the mani lifted again.

We'll figure it out, I'm extremely happy otherwise and got enough good runs in. One thing to point out is I had to run MDM all the time and it can and does slow you down, and on some runs still had issues hooking at the hit, so a few runs are not clean, this goes for many of the RWD cars, but it is what it is. Vids coming guys.

[the infamous...]

congrats on the win!

[rjd598]

In for results

[m33]

I like books with pictures & threads with videos

[Malek@MRF]

Drew,

You and Adam were running great out there. The AWD guys had a bit of an advantage with the very dusty air strip, but once hooked up, you guys were moving!

I will be in contact with Roman@ESS to come up with a permanent solution for "high-boost" applications to prevent manifold lift. Lot's of high boost cars have this issue, unfortunately it's never stated publicly too often. Tightie's car also had this same issue last year at a Speed District event.

On my end, I was happy to say I was able to put down really well against some really fast cars, such as the full E85+Meth FFTEC 335i.

You know the digits, hit me up if you need anything.Great chatting it up with you and Robert (Pencil Geek) yesterday. See you soon.

Malek

[M3PO]

I was fortunate enough to get to ride with Drew for the run against the Alpha 7.5 GT-R! Drew's car pulls HARD! It makes my bolt-on M3 feel like a Camry. We were pulling on the GT-R until Drew shifted into 4th and manifold unseated.

[m3an]

Originally Posted by Malek@MRF

Drew,

You and Adam were running great out there. The AWD guys had a bit of an advantage with the very dusty air strip, but once hooked up, you guys were moving!

I will be in contact with Roman@ESS to come up with a permanent solution for "high-boost" applications to prevent manifold lift. Lot's of high boost cars have this issue, unfortunately it's never stated publicly too often. Tightie's car also had this same issue last year at a Speed District event.

On my end, I was happy to say I was able to put down really well against some really fast cars, such as the full E85+Meth FFTEC 335i.

You know the digits, hit me up if you need anything.Great chatting it up with you and Robert (Pencil Geek) yesterday. See you soon.

Malek

problem is easily solved using T-bolt clamps. I am actually very surprised that they're at least not used on the compressor to intake connections (for aesthetic reasons alone!).

Another solution would be to have beaded edges on the intake stacks that would totally prevent the couplers from coming dislodged.

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by M3PO

I was fortunate enough to get to ride with Drew for the run against the Alpha 7.5 GT-R! Drew's car pulls HARD! It makes my bolt-on M3 feel like a Camry. We were pulling on the GT-R until Drew shifted into 4th and manifold unseated.

Great meeting you and I appreciate the kind words!

[DLSJ5]

Originally Posted by Malek@MRF

Drew,

You and Adam were running great out there. The AWD guys had a bit of an advantage with the very dusty air strip, but once hooked up, you guys were moving!

I will be in contact with Roman@ESS to come up with a permanent solution for "high-boost" applications to prevent manifold lift. Lot's of high boost cars have this issue, unfortunately it's never stated publicly too often. Tightie's car also had this same issue last year at a Speed District event.

On my end, I was happy to say I was able to put down really well against some really fast cars, such as the full E85+Meth FFTEC 335i.

You know the digits, hit me up if you need anything.Great chatting it up with you and Robert (Pencil Geek) yesterday. See you soon.

Malek

Thanks Malek, great meeting you finally, you are one of the coolest cats around and great at what you do. I really appreciate your help and support, without you there it would have been extremely difficult for me to get it going again. After you fixed it the first time, the first run I had with my buddies HPF 900HP M3, even though I jumped him pretty good at the start, lol, he said he still couldn't really reel me in before the half mile. The car was moving and he was extremely impressed. Thanks my man!

[m33]

How did Sticky's super car do ??

[CarbonFoot]

Originally Posted by DLSJ5

All part of the R&D process on a car with 300whp over stock, the car peformed flawlessly otherwise.

You have the best attitude towards these kinds of mods. Tuners must love working with you and people like me love to see the results of your pioneering work.

Congrats on the win!

[Malek@MRF]

Originally Posted by m3an

problem is easily solved using T-bolt clamps. I am actually very surprised that they're at least not used on the compressor to intake connections (for aesthetic reasons alone!).

Another solution would be to have beaded edges on the intake stacks that would totally prevent the couplers from coming dislodged.

Neither one of these "solutions" would work in this instance. T-Bolt clamps are very thick and the factory rubber couplings do not have enough surface area to utilize such clamps.

The factory manifold and TB's are designed for Natural Aspiration, they don't have bead rolled ends on the TB side. There is a minor rubber bead on the inside of the rubber coupler to ensure proper positioning of the factory coupler, but it is not enough to sustain high boost pressures.

For standard S/C kits which run 5-7 PSI of boost, T-Bolt clamps are not necessary on the compressor to manifold connection. Even in Drew's case, T-bolt clamping those locations would not serve a functional purpose.

[m3an]

Originally Posted by Malek@MRF

Neither one of these "solutions" would work in this instance. T-Bolt clamps are very thick and the factory rubber couplings do not have enough surface area to utilize such clamps.

The factory manifold and TB's are designed for Natural Aspiration, they don't have bead rolled ends on the TB side. There is a minor rubber bead on the inside of the rubber coupler to ensure proper positioning of the factory coupler, but it is not enough to sustain high boost pressures.

For standard S/C kits which run 5-7 PSI of boost, T-Bolt clamps are not necessary on the compressor to manifold connection. Even in Drew's case, T-bolt clamping those locations would not serve a functional purpose.

I would agree that at least on the mani side the t bolts would be a tough fit, and that's where the idea of beading one surface areas comes into mind, but again I would think this would be a last result measure at best. I also see the reg clamps fine @ 5-7 psi, but am saying that a t-bolt for nothing other than aesthetics would look 10x better coming from the compressor to charge piping-manifold. I do think there is an alternative to a small t-bolt, but in the interim, maybe some hairspray on the couplers themselves is all you really need??

[Roman@ESS]

We have run upgraded clamps on our high boost applications with success. In Drews case his rubber couplers have been worn a bit over time and the rubber lip on the factory connector we use to sit in the velocity stacks machined groove failed to hold. We will replace them, test some more and if needed look at some options to secure them even further.

[pbonsalb]

Could the manifold be "tabbed and bolted" down?

[m33]

Use the same type of Clamp used on the upper portion on the lower portion , case closed !

[M3PO]

Originally Posted by pbonsalb

Could the manifold be "tabbed and bolted" down?

Malek and I were discussing this at the event and it seems possible. It may be overkill too though. The valve cover bolts and the engine "hook" could be used as mounting points for the manifold.

[aus]

Originally Posted by Malek@MRF

You know the digits, hit me up if you need anything.Great chatting it up with you and Robert (Pencil Geek) yesterday. See you soon.

Malek

Is Pencil Geek's car up and running?? I think he was doing a 4.6L low compression motor.

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