DCT To Manual Conversion approx price?

SEI · 11-11-2012, 07:52 AM

hey was wondering how much would dct to manual conversion cost? and has anyone done it before?

(before anyone says just sell and get a manual, im in indonesia and its guaranteed cheaper then buying a new car)

X2Board · 11-11-2012, 08:08 AM

Why would you want to do that?

N1COM3 · 11-11-2012, 09:45 AM

About $70k. Haha just messing. I never heard someone wanting to do that. It sounds difficult and expensive IMO. I hope u didn't start a DCT/MT flame war!

Daft · 11-11-2012, 10:23 AM

SEI · 11-11-2012, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by X2Board

Why would you want to do that?

because it started out as my daily driver and needed dct for jakarta traffic. now its basically my track toy and i barely ever use it to go work or out. car is only used for high speed runs and track time.

im considering going vt-3 as well so manual would be a lot better for that too..

plus dct is so frikking boring... I've always loved manual better and i feel like i have better control on a manual car.

but mostly its because i hate automatic/ dct with a passion..

I'm guessing around 15k?

NavidM3E92 · 11-11-2012, 11:13 AM

Just keep it Dct. I feel like your gonna have alot of problems messing with the transmission

benzy89 · 11-11-2012, 12:58 PM

Prob not worth the expense. DLSJ5 is running a VT3 setup on a DCT, he just goes thru clutches a little faster than norm, so go for it.

Superfly_M3 · 11-11-2012, 01:05 PM

I would guess the cost would be around $20k.

sleepless · 11-11-2012, 02:09 PM

More cost effective to trade cars for a manual. However, I think you are quite mistaken in the perception that you have more control with a manual. If the DCT is boring, then I think you are not using it effectively...

BimmerRob08 · 11-11-2012, 02:15 PM

I wish I would have gotten the DCT. But in your case OP, I think best to trade for a 6MT M3 and then start the mods. Probebly save you alot of money and time/effert and I doubt it would ever realy be the same.

I can't imagine it being cost effective to convert. Probebly easier to convert from a 6MT to a DCT (just guessin) because you would have to add a clutch pedal and all the supporting linkage/brackets, etc. But then again a DCT tranny is like $7,000 last I saw and the modding would probebly be another few thousand minimum, plus software update to run it.

eithe way, not worth the cost. Good luck!

LarThaL · 11-11-2012, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by sleepless

More cost effective to trade cars for a manual. However, I think you are quite mistaken in the perception that you have more control with a manual. If the DCT is boring, then I think you are not using it effectively...

There is definitely more control with a manual. All dual clutch transmissions do things on their own from time to time, even in full manual mode.

DCT being boring has to do with the fact that there is no clutch pedal and no stick shift for you to physically use and coordinate the action of. It is simply about how much physical interplay there is between you and your car, not the cars performance and response. The latter is clearly better with DCT.

GIdriver · 11-11-2012, 02:46 PM

Trade for 6MT.

Amri215 · 11-11-2012, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daft

+1 pass some of that over here..

Is this thread for real? OP why not just drop a different body on the chassis while you are at it..lol

GIdriver · 11-11-2012, 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amri215

+1 pass some of that over here..

Is this thread for real? OP why not just drop a different body on the chassis while you are at it..lol

LOL!!!

SEI · 11-12-2012, 11:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LarThaL

There is definitely more control with a manual. All dual clutch transmissions do things on their own from time to time, even in full manual mode.

DCT being boring has to do with the fact that there is no clutch pedal and no stick shift for you to physically use and coordinate the action of. It is simply about how much physical interplay there is between you and your car, not the cars performance and response. The latter is clearly better with DCT.

theres things in a manual that you cant do on a dct as easily.. for example a 180 degree turn. in a manual you flick steering wheel left clutch in and pull handbrake, whilst you are turning you change back into first gear then when you are facing the correct direction clutch out and go.

in a dct it just doesnt work.. you can get up to the point of neutral but then when you want to get it back into first you gotta step on the brake pedal first.

another use is while drifting, you have more methods avalible to you. instead of just doing a Scandinavian flick you can tap the clutch before the corner instead.

thats also usefull if for example you come into the corner too fast and ur understeering out.

dct is boring because you dont make mistakes and at times (very rarely but still happens) the dct gets retarded and hesitates at shift. i like the fun of driving i dont care if im slower. i just really really miss heel toeing..

fuzzybam · 11-12-2012, 11:27 PM

I would imagine it could be done and it would be pretty similar to doing an SMG -> 6MT swap on the e46 M3. With that being said, there is always a higher cost to the first person who wants to do something like this.

M3PO · 11-13-2012, 03:07 PM

You'd be better off selling it and buying a different one. All other things constant, you'd only spend a few grand that way.

rantarM3 · 11-13-2012, 08:54 PM

I think someone has swapped a 6-speed tranny for an SMG transmission (or the other way around) in an E46. If you find that thread (probably on M3forum.net) it may give you an idea of what is involved. I would hate to be the first to do it on the E9X platform because of all the related coding you'll have to do (and determine what to do). Perhaps if you can find a totaled stick M3 and get all of the ECU's out of that it may prove easier (although the VIN in the modules won't match your key). A difficult project indeed.

hostetlgaret · 11-13-2012, 09:14 PM

It sounds difficult and expensive IMO.

crabman · 11-15-2012, 01:28 AM

You are looking at a trans and associated hardware such as the shifter, console piece etc. plus installation and programing. Getting a junkyard trans in Indonesia may not exactly be easy? What about the shrapnel parts? Do you have someone who can handle reprogramming the car there if it isn't possible to get a dongle and have it emailed in? Someone will correct me if I'm wrong here but I seem to recall reading a new DCT is 12k and with the other costs I'm thinking it wouldn't be too surprising to me if I were to hear the cost went toward 20k.

Is the cost of trading in Indonesia going to exceed that?

Mike Benvo · 11-15-2012, 01:50 AM

Shouldn't be too bad.. I would think it would be more trouble to go from 6MT to DCT. The biggest problem with going to 6MT is probably installing all of the stuff for the clutch pedal linkages, etc..

If you wind up doing the conversion, I can code it for you no problem, no doubt about that

M3ryder55 · 11-15-2012, 02:15 AM

trade, stupid to go through all that work.

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11-11-2012, 08:08 AM	#2
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11-11-2012, 10:23 AM	#4
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11-11-2012, 11:13 AM	#6
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11-11-2012, 02:09 PM	#9
sleepless Private First Class Drives: 11 E90 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Redmond, WA Posts: 116 iTrader: (0)	More cost effective to trade cars for a manual. However, I think you are quite mistaken in the perception that you have more control with a manual. If the DCT is boring, then I think you are not using it effectively... __________________ '11 E90, Cantrell brake ducts, Apex 18x10 ARC-8, 265/35 PSS, RS19 pads, -2.2 camber, CMS Lap Timer Pro

11-11-2012, 09:45 AM	#3
N1COM3 New Member Drives: Le Mans Blue M3 Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: Hampton Roads, VA Posts: 21 iTrader: (0)	About $70k. Haha just messing. I never heard someone wanting to do that. It sounds difficult and expensive IMO. I hope u didn't start a DCT/MT flame war!

11-11-2012, 12:58 PM	#7
benzy89 Banned Drives: '08 E90 335i Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 2,402 iTrader: (3) Garage List 2008 BMW 335i [3.75]	Prob not worth the expense. DLSJ5 is running a VT3 setup on a DCT, he just goes thru clutches a little faster than norm, so go for it.

11-11-2012, 01:05 PM	#8
Superfly_M3 Captain Drives: 2011 M3 Sedan Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Toronto Posts: 882 iTrader: (0)	I would guess the cost would be around $20k.

11-11-2012, 02:15 PM	#10
BimmerRob08 Major Drives: 2008 M3, Space Gray Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: KIKR (ABQ), NM Posts: 1,144 iTrader: (0)	I wish I would have gotten the DCT. But in your case OP, I think best to trade for a 6MT M3 and then start the mods. Probebly save you alot of money and time/effert and I doubt it would ever realy be the same. I can't imagine it being cost effective to convert. Probebly easier to convert from a 6MT to a DCT (just guessin) because you would have to add a clutch pedal and all the supporting linkage/brackets, etc. But then again a DCT tranny is like $7,000 last I saw and the modding would probebly be another few thousand minimum, plus software update to run it. eithe way, not worth the cost. Good luck!

11-11-2012, 02:46 PM	#12
GIdriver Major Drives: 2011 SG/FR E90 M3 DCT Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Somewhere in Time Posts: 1,136 iTrader: (0)	Trade for 6MT. __________________ Akrapovic Evolution with Carbon Fiber tips \| Akra Evo ESS tune \| Dinan Pulley \| AA Green Filter \| iND Cosmetic Package (Color Matched Front Grilles/Reflectors/Side Gills) in Space Gray \| LUX H8 Angel Eyes.

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fuzzybam Private First Class Drives: One with wheels Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: USA Posts: 164 iTrader: (0)	I would imagine it could be done and it would be pretty similar to doing an SMG -> 6MT swap on the e46 M3. With that being said, there is always a higher cost to the first person who wants to do something like this.

11-13-2012, 03:07 PM	#17
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11-13-2012, 08:54 PM	#18
rantarM3 Private First Class Drives: E90 M3 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Florida Posts: 159 iTrader: (0)	I think someone has swapped a 6-speed tranny for an SMG transmission (or the other way around) in an E46. If you find that thread (probably on M3forum.net) it may give you an idea of what is involved. I would hate to be the first to do it on the E9X platform because of all the related coding you'll have to do (and determine what to do). Perhaps if you can find a totaled stick M3 and get all of the ECU's out of that it may prove easier (although the VIN in the modules won't match your key). A difficult project indeed.

11-13-2012, 09:14 PM	#19
hostetlgaret New Member Drives: bmw Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: great Posts: 6 iTrader: (0)	It sounds difficult and expensive IMO. __________________

11-15-2012, 01:28 AM	#20
crabman Captain Drives: M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: WA Posts: 650 iTrader: (0)	You are looking at a trans and associated hardware such as the shifter, console piece etc. plus installation and programing. Getting a junkyard trans in Indonesia may not exactly be easy? What about the shrapnel parts? Do you have someone who can handle reprogramming the car there if it isn't possible to get a dongle and have it emailed in? Someone will correct me if I'm wrong here but I seem to recall reading a new DCT is 12k and with the other costs I'm thinking it wouldn't be too surprising to me if I were to hear the cost went toward 20k. Is the cost of trading in Indonesia going to exceed that? __________________ 2012 E92 Space Grey with fox red/black/black, comp, premium, DCT, premium sound, sirius, heated seats.

11-15-2012, 01:50 AM	#21
Mike Benvo BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: BPMSport M3 / 7 Series Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,202 iTrader: (6)	Shouldn't be too bad.. I would think it would be more trouble to go from 6MT to DCT. The biggest problem with going to 6MT is probably installing all of the stuff for the clutch pedal linkages, etc.. If you wind up doing the conversion, I can code it for you no problem, no doubt about that __________________ -----\| Like us on Facebook \| Instagram \|\| Tuning Information \| Remote Coding \|----- ----Visit us at www.BPMSport.com - Emotion. Driven. \| Toll Free: (888) 557-5133----

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M3ryder55 Lieutenant Drives: 2010 SG M3 Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Chatsworth, CA Posts: 502 iTrader: (1)	trade, stupid to go through all that work. __________________

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