Few questions about spacers

gatorfast · 11-07-2012, 09:42 PM

Thinking about going the 15f/12r route on my oem 220's but have a few general questions.

Will running spacers on stock suspension make fenders gap appear bigger?

For those with spacers, have you noticed additional road grime and rock chips on your side skirts and rear lower bumper?

Any reason to with H&R over TMS or vice versa?

Thanks!

THE TECH · 11-08-2012, 09:19 AM

I don't think the gap will change.

Pushing the wheels further out will always add to the possibility of more debris hitting the car.

I would go with Turner spacers over ALL others.

M3SQRD · 11-08-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

I would go with Turner spacers over ALL others.

+1 - quality of Turner spacers >> other spacer brands!

kawasaki00 · 11-08-2012, 10:08 AM

I run the 15/12 set up with the ms spacers. Not enough road grime to make a difference. It makes the car look way better for sure. Only reason I went with ms is because they are black and blend in better imo.

dmk08 · 11-08-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorfast

Thinking about going the 15f/12r route on my oem 220's but have a few general questions.

Will running spacers on stock suspension make fenders gap appear bigger?

For those with spacers, have you noticed additional road grime and rock chips on your side skirts and rear lower bumper?

Any reason to with H&R over TMS or vice versa?

Thanks!

Turner is on back order of the 15mm so I ended up just getting H&R. Hope I didn't make a big mistake. I was told 4-6 weeks last week.

They did price match the H&R with the turner because of this. I didn't want to mismatch my set so I went H&R all around.

325rider · 11-08-2012, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

Turner is on back order of the 15mm so I ended up just getting H&R. Hope I didn't make a big mistake. I was told 4-6 weeks last week.

They did price match the H&R with the turner because of this. I didn't want to mismatch my set so I went H&R all around.

Should be fine. I bought some "lightweight" RE spacers and they were cracked and separated majorly when I went to change wheels after running them a year or so. Never had a problem with H&Rs and the little debris increase shouldn't bother you but if it does get a clear bra on the susceptible parts.

THE TECH · 11-08-2012, 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dmk08

Turner is on back order of the 15mm so I ended up just getting H&R. Hope I didn't make a big mistake. I was told 4-6 weeks last week.

They did price match the H&R with the turner because of this. I didn't want to mismatch my set so I went H&R all around.

H&R are nice as well.

VSmotorsports · 11-08-2012, 12:22 PM

You can also run Macht Schnell as well we run them on our race cars and customers car and have had no issues

tom @ eas · 11-08-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorfast

Thinking about going the 15f/12r route on my oem 220's but have a few general questions.

Will running spacers on stock suspension make fenders gap appear bigger?

For those with spacers, have you noticed additional road grime and rock chips on your side skirts and rear lower bumper?

Any reason to with H&R over TMS or vice versa?

Thanks!

Most on the forum are running the Macht Schnell spacers, we have a ongoing thread here with tons of examples to base your decision upon:

Macht Schnell wheel spacer reference thread
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=262054

The 12/15mm combo would be my recommendation on the 220s, assuming you are still running stock tire brand/sizes.

M3SQRD · 11-08-2012, 01:19 PM

I have MS and Turner spacers in 10, 12, and 15 mm thickness. On the same wheels with any of the MS spacers I get a vibration above 75 mph whereas with the Turner spacers I get zero vibration. I stand behind my statement - Turner spacer quality >> MS spacer quality.

e1000 · 11-08-2012, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by M3SQRD

I have MS and Turner spacers in 10, 12, and 15 mm thickness. On the same wheels with any of the MS spacers I get a vibration above 75 mph whereas with the Turner spacers I get zero vibration. I stand behind my statement - Turner spacer quality >> MS spacer quality.

+100000000000 Turner spacers just ooze quality and the fit is perfect.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=450066

Denk · 11-08-2012, 04:22 PM

Once upon a time I ran with Turner spacers, 12.5mm front and rear. It improved the stance and closed the gap a bit, more noticeable on the rear. I also had MS 12r, 15f on my last M3. I didn't have any issues with either brand. The Turner's are machined beautifully, they'd be my choice. Here's some old pics with the Turner 12.5mm's to give you an idea, stock suspension.

gatorfast · 11-08-2012, 04:28 PM

Thanks Denk! The 12.5mm TMS spacers all around look perfect. I think that just confirmed my decision.

Denk · 11-08-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gatorfast

Thanks Denk! The 12.5mm TMS spacers all around look perfect. I think that just confirmed my decision.

dmk08 · 11-21-2012, 08:28 AM

So I've had my H&R Spacers (12mm/15mm) on for about 2 weeks now and I'm a little concerned about some vibration I'm having. I used the best practices to install. Cleaned off hubs good w/ wire brushes, applied anti-seize and longer bolts.

I can definitely tell a difference in vibration between 78-85mph on the highway. This is the flow of traffic in Atlanta before anyone tells me to slow down

Is this just something you have to live with when using spacers or do I need to try and re-install or something?

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kawasaki00 Captain Drives: E92 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Mooresville NC Posts: 627 iTrader: (4)	I run the 15/12 set up with the ms spacers. Not enough road grime to make a difference. It makes the car look way better for sure. Only reason I went with ms is because they are black and blend in better imo. __________________ Electronics Junkie, Engine Builder.
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VSmotorsports Lieutenant Colonel Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Schaumburg, IL Posts: 1,633 iTrader: (3)	You can also run Macht Schnell as well we run them on our race cars and customers car and have had no issues
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M3SQRD Colonel Drives: E92 M3s, R56 Cooper S Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: EC Posts: 2,385 iTrader: (2)	I have MS and Turner spacers in 10, 12, and 15 mm thickness. On the same wheels with any of the MS spacers I get a vibration above 75 mph whereas with the Turner spacers I get zero vibration. I stand behind my statement - Turner spacer quality >> MS spacer quality.
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11-08-2012, 04:22 PM	#12
Denk Major Drives: 2013 SSII e92 DCT M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 1,485 iTrader: (0)	Once upon a time I ran with Turner spacers, 12.5mm front and rear. It improved the stance and closed the gap a bit, more noticeable on the rear. I also had MS 12r, 15f on my last M3. I didn't have any issues with either brand. The Turner's are machined beautifully, they'd be my choice. Here's some old pics with the Turner 12.5mm's to give you an idea, stock suspension.
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11-08-2012, 04:28 PM	#13
gatorfast Colonel Drives: MR E90 M3 Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: SoFla Posts: 2,174 iTrader: (3)	Thanks Denk! The 12.5mm TMS spacers all around look perfect. I think that just confirmed my decision.
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11-21-2012, 08:28 AM	#15
dmk08 ///Maniac Drives: e90 m3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Atlanta Posts: 727 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 BMW M3 E90 [0.00]	So I've had my H&R Spacers (12mm/15mm) on for about 2 weeks now and I'm a little concerned about some vibration I'm having. I used the best practices to install. Cleaned off hubs good w/ wire brushes, applied anti-seize and longer bolts. I can definitely tell a difference in vibration between 78-85mph on the highway. This is the flow of traffic in Atlanta before anyone tells me to slow down Is this just something you have to live with when using spacers or do I need to try and re-install or something?
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