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      10-26-2012, 10:53 AM   #617
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Torque difference 265-275?

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Has anyone noticed any torque loss with the 255/275 setup?
The circumference difference between 265/35& 275/35-19 is 1%. I seriously doubt you can detect a 1% difference in torque.
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      10-26-2012, 12:27 PM   #618
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I contacted the Michelin customer service via Email and explained my problem. They will pickup the tires free of charge and check whats wrong. This indicates that 3mm after 11000 Kilometers is also not aceptable for them. I keep you updated...
Great to hear you got in contact with someone and they are looking into it for you. Michelin customer service is usually top notch!
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      10-26-2012, 03:44 PM   #619
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The circumference difference between 265/35& 275/35-19 is 1%. I seriously doubt you can detect a 1% difference in torque.
I ran into this when I plus sized my tires another bimmer. The car felt sluggish off the line. It's also the extra weight (1lb is a lot)
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      10-26-2012, 03:49 PM   #620
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I ran into this when I plus sized my tires another bimmer. The car felt sluggish off the line. It's also the extra weight (1lb is a lot)
Your Buttmeter is way better than mine, then! It'd be interesting to see some test data.
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Good to see Greg still here.
You have the new /M order setup already?

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      10-26-2012, 05:44 PM   #622
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Good to see Greg still here.
You have the new /M order setup already?
Thanks. Not yet. Just got a new Merc ML for the wife, so may wait a year or two. I'll be starting to follow it, though.
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      10-26-2012, 05:56 PM   #623
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I ran into this when I plus sized my tires another bimmer. The car felt sluggish off the line. It's also the extra weight (1lb is a lot)
Same here, more snap off the line with stock sizes for me. I was comparing like tires, PSS's. I'm a huge fan of reducing unsprung weight. A little bit here and there is noticeable if you've got a sensitive butt meter.
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      10-26-2012, 07:02 PM   #624
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Same here, more snap off the line with stock sizes for me. I was comparing like tires, PSS's. I'm a huge fan of reducing unsprung weight. A little bit here and there is noticeable if you've got a sensitive butt meter.
I, too, agree that unprung weight is important. That's why I have forged RAC Monolites that are about 22# for the 19x10 rears. I don't think a lb. or two in tire weight is huge unless you're racing. All things are some form of compromise, and for me the beefier profile and slight extra grip offsets any negatives.
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Unfortunately, the Super Sports aren't even available in M3 sizes no matter if you run 18, 19 or 20" wheels
i have the super sport on mine i went 10mm bigger front and back
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I, too, agree that unprung weight is important. That's why I have forged RAC Monolites that are about 22# for the 19x10 rears. I don't think a lb. or two in tire wieght is huge unless you're racing. All things are some form of compromise, and for me the beefier profile and slight extra grip offsets any negatives.
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Cool, nice wheel indeed. HRE's here, 22lbs rear also, et20. Provides a nice aggressive appearance w/stock sized tires. Upsized PSS's definitely affected the feel of shifts on my DCT. Felt sluggish compared to stock size PSS's and that's just in normal driving. Maybe 6mt gearing would have less effect, dunno...just my experience on my car.
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Here are my PSSs, waiting for their debut. Problem is my Vreds have 6/32"F & 7/32"R left, but I bought the Michelins early to get the $70 card. I could go through most of the Winter with the current tires, but not sure I want to.

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      10-27-2012, 11:32 AM   #628
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Here are my PSSs, waiting for their debut. Problem is my Vreds have 6/32"F & 7/32"R left, but I bought the Michelins early to get the $70 card. I could go through most of the Winter with the current tires, but not sure I want to.

That will be hard to have just sitting around...
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go practive your drifitng skills to burn up those vreds.
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That will be hard to have just sitting around...
People sit, thing set
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      10-27-2012, 02:58 PM   #631
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go practive your drifitng skills to burn up those vreds.
It's so wet here now that would not be effective.
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It's so wet here now that would not be effective.
agreed im in the same area. would be fun and good practice though.
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Still waiting on word on the 285/30/19? I have 245/35/19f and 275/30/19r right now and won't need new fronts when I need rears, but don't think I'll have enough room with a 295 setup in the rear. My offset on 10" wheels is 20ET in the rear with a slight drop on KWV3. Measurement from the center roundel is 13.5" to the fender.
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Still waiting on word on the 285/30/19? I have 245/35/19f and 275/30/19r right now and won't need new fronts when I need rears, but don't think I'll have enough room with a 295 setup in the rear. My offset on 10" wheels is 20ET in the rear with a slight drop on KWV3. Measurement from the center roundel is 13.5" to the fender.
I'm waiting for 285s as well. Currently running PSS 295s in the rear on 10.5" and ET23 and it does scrub on bumps. If they ever release 285s, I'm going to jump on them.
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According to http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp a 245/35/19 on an 8.5" wheel in the front paired with a 285/30/19 on a 10" wheel on the back matches up perfectly. A 255/35/19 and a 295/30/19 also pair perfectly but I don't need new front tires and I'm worried about the 295 rubbing.
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About to go to my second set of PSS with a setup of:

18x9.5 w/265-35
18X10 w/285-35

Absolutely no complaints here. I previously ran PSCups on the car and the PSS are the best street tires I've had.
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Funny how people mentioned it felt sluggish when going bigger. I felt the same when I mounted on my FIs. I recently installed Brembo so that will help reduce more unsprung weight.
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