My 335I Rant

[armyav8tor]

Here's said 135i;

bavarianstig

[ken1137]

Aren't we all in the same family and can't we all just get along? Well, you can tell all of the 335 owners the 135 with the same bolt-ons and tune will beat the 335 in the 1/4 and run circles around it on the track. The M3 is the ultimate driving machine, and yes some of us cannot afford it right now due to other priorities in life. That said, an M3 will be in my garage as soon as I am done paying $40K for my daughter's annual tuition

[Beemw335]

Lets be honest how many of you go to the track more than a few times a year. For those that go often get the m3 an never look back.
For 90% of m3 owners, the handling argument makes no sense, when 335 owners say there car is faster, tey are talking about straight line speed, which lets be honest a slighty tuned 335 has that advantage.
As for sound, I completely agree that the m3 sounds better, but for a city driven car, and races from light to light, the n54 beats the s65, on the track the s65 beats the n54.
/thread

[Carl L]

Originally Posted by Beemw335

Lets be honest how many of you go to the track more than a few times a year. For those that go often get the m3 an never look back.
For 90% of m3 owners, the handling argument makes no sense, when 335 owners say there car is faster, tey are talking about straight line speed, which lets be honest a slighty tuned 335 has that advantage.
As for sound, I completely agree that the m3 sounds better, but for a city driven car, and races from light to light, the n54 beats the s65, on the track the s65 beats the n54.
/thread

Ken's intelligent post above yours would be a more appropriate way to "/thread"

Even forgetting the track argument, the 335i is a nice car but I'd far rather drive an M3 as my daily than a 335. I can't think why anyone wouldn't, but it's cool that you apparently do and I'm glad you enjoy your car

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter

Ken's intelligent post above yours would be a more appropriate way to "/thread"

Even forgetting the track argument, the 335i is a nice car but I'd far rather drive an M3 as my daily than a 335. I can't think why anyone wouldn't, but it's cool that you apparently do and I'm glad you enjoy your car

Do you have a 335? i have both a a 2010 e92 n54 335 and a 2013 e92 M3 currently. The 335 is modded. i like them about the same but for very different reasons. M3 owners who have never owned a modded 335 seem not to understand this.

[EB9512]

My car is a stock 335i so many may wish to stop reading this post now....

As I read through this thread I kept remembering back to when I was married but without the three kids. Then my passion was hunting and fishing. I would fish regional bass tourneys whenever I could and read websites on boats and (gasp) mods done to make them faster. This thread reads like all of those as well...people saying they bought the right and better boat.... (my Javelin is better than your Stratos....yeah? My Triton is better than your Javelin and because I have the proper pitch and angles on my SS prop my 125hsp will wipe the floor with your 150). It all comes down to justification for our individual purchases. I could have paid for an M3 instead of a 335 and if I were track oriented I may have done so....I like the M3 styling better. Notice I wrote "I" so that does not mean the styling is better, just better to my eyes. Again "I" think that the 335 and M3 are very different cars. Stock...both cars are fast. Modded both get way faster. In the end though, very different cars. Basically buy what you want and love it everyday because we are all lucky not to be driving horse carts in some other God forsaken wasteland. I wanted to drive something everyday as I run around selling "high quality dental goods" that put a smile on my face. My car does that for me. That is enough.....mods....maybe a chip in the future for a little extra thrill....but for me....not to impress anyone else.

[Carl L]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Do you have a 335? i have both a a 2010 e92 n54 335 and a 2013 e92 M3 currently. The 335 is modded. i like them about the same but for very different reasons. M3 owners who have never owned a modded 335 seem not to understand this.

I do not. Spent a fair amount of time in my friends lightly tuned one, for what it's worth. As I said, they're good cars, but I prefer the M3 for myriad reasons, even though I do sometimes miss the 0-60 surge my (sold in 05) 996TT had. Didn't you get your M3 less than one week ago? Maybe your understanding of the two cars isn't as comprehensive as you think, though I respect your opinion that a well modded 335 is a very capable car (and for the 3rd time a good car in stock form too).

Anyhow, not sure why I ever stepped into this thread. In two years I'll be an F82 driver (why I signed up) and the 335-M3 silliness will hopefully be dissipating.

[kchu221]

Originally Posted by Carl Lassiter

I do not. Spent a fair amount of time in my friends lightly tuned one, for what it's worth. As I said, they're good cars, but I prefer the M3 for myriad reasons, even though I do sometimes miss the 0-60 surge my (sold in 05) 996TT had. Didn't you get your M3 less than one week ago? Maybe your understanding of the two cars isn't as comprehensive as you think, though I respect your opinion that a well modded 335 is a very capable car (and for the 3rd time a good car in stock form too).

Anyhow, not sure why I ever stepped into this thread. In two years I'll be an F82 driver (why I signed up) and the 335-M3 silliness will hopefully be dissipating.

by then the argument will be S65 VS twin turbo inline 6....

[atown88]

Originally Posted by kchu221

by then the argument will be S65 VS twin turbo inline 6....

[JoshuaWong1989]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Do you have a 335? i have both a a 2010 e92 n54 335 and a 2013 e92 M3 currently. The 335 is modded. i like them about the same but for very different reasons. M3 owners who have never owned a modded 335 seem not to understand this.

I had a E90 335i with bolt on + V3, now I have a E92 M3 with Dinan intake/ecu/suspension/akrapovic evo and i havn't looked back

Even when both the car was stock, my 335i felt a bit stronger low end.
But 335i had 300lb/ft and M3 has 295lb/ft so its actually pretty similiar.

In the end its just crank torque though, what matters is after the transmission multiplies it and put it to the ground.

Problem with the M3 i think is it just dosnt feel very fast but I ran against my buddy's c63 and I pull 1-2 car length on him no problem, but his car felt quite a bit faster.

I just tell myself I have a fast car that feel like a slow car nowadays ...

Actually in a perfect world, I would have a 335i for daily and the m3 for the weekender but I dont mind daily driving the m3 at all! once I got used to it, i didnt complain about the lack of torque and grew to love high revving na... to bad its the end for those breed of motors

[MIC328i]

I came from 335i to a M3 just recently. So I can tell you how exciting I am and what a step-up it is. Is true that the M3 lacks the low end torque of a 335i but the way that M3 deliver its power and how fast it rev more than makes up for it. Don't get me wrong, the 335i is a fast car but the M3 is just soo crazy; the way that it sounds and how the power is delivered. The setup of the M3 suspension and the way that it handles is just unbelievable; and this is coming from a 335i with a PSS9 coilover setup. I don't think there is even a need to modify the suspension on the M3, it just handles so damn well in stock form.

I think M3 is always at a class of its own so there is no need to react to immature comments that some ppl make. We are still one big family and both are wonderful cars that BMW produce.

[e92livin]

The 335 will not beat a M3 light to light unless it has a LSD. even so i wouldnt say it would beat it because they break a lot of tire first gear which makes there first gear a write off especially when tuned.

[Majdnoon]

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....how bout that E46?

[Rshane]

So many times I hear about the superior torque of the 335 or135 ( Wow, a who.e 5 lb feet more torque). What I fail to hear mentioned is the additional 120horsepower of the M3.

Anyways, who cares.

BTW, too much wine tonight...that is all.

[ILSMKU]

Originally Posted by Majdnoon

So............
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....how bout that E46?

[Killerfish2012]

When you lot hit this kind of mileage without trading in your car, which you tracked every year you owned it, and drove daily on the highway and in stop and go let me know:

[Amri215]

Originally Posted by ken1137

Aren't we all in the same family and can't we all just get along? Well, you can tell all of the 335 owners the 135 with the same bolt-ons and tune will beat the 335 in the 1/4 and run circles around it on the track. The M3 is the ultimate driving machine, and yes some of us cannot afford it right now due to other priorities in life. That said, an M3 will be in my garage as soon as I am done paying $40K for my daughter's annual tuition

Ofcourse not its what makes the world spin..

[catherinelam]

Originally Posted by mdosu

penis envy. M3 drivers have bigger penis.

unless your female M3 driver, they have big boobs. so boob envy in these limited cases.

hhahhahahah

[Presidio335xi]

Originally Posted by Nguyener

Im more of a lurker then a poster on forums unless its to give props to some well done cars. However some post from SOME 335I owners bugs the $hit outta me. Like this one

Im not calling this one member out, it's just an example and theres plenty others with this attutide.

I just want to get this out there.

So what if your MODDED 335I might be faster in a straight line? You think if we can afford our M3s that we couldn't get a 335I or something even faster in a straight if we wanted to? Maybe we wanted our M3s cause it has one of the BEST N/A V8s out there, laps tracks faster, handles better, brakes better, steers better, looks better, SOUNDS 10x better and has a superior transmission DCT & 6MT then your 335I. So thanks for keeping us informed that you car might be faster then ours.

END RANT

I just read this whole thread. Wow.

Too many different types of owners with different goals to make any definite conclusions. Given some of the blanket "feelings" statements on both ends suggests there are some really pathetic people on both sides.

My 335 is my first car I ever bought (age 26) Couldn't afford a M3. Luckily I've had the pleasure of growing up in a BMW family and drove many M5 and M3s. Always wanted one.

Once I got the 335 and started making more money I started to tune my car and feel in love with that process. The only real difference now between my car and an M3 is that I modded my 3 series and BMW Motorsport tuned the your 3 series.

Whose is better? Subjective opinions. That can't be argued by anyone here.

I can say that now that I can afford a M3 I wouldn't buy one because I like having my car with parts and driving characteristics that I choose.

Personally preference.

[mdosu]

Die thread die

[Endless619]

Originally Posted by Rshane

So many times I hear about the superior torque of the 335 or135 ( Wow, a who.e 5 lb feet more torque). What I fail to hear mentioned is the additional 120horsepower of the M3.

Anyways, who cares.

BTW, too much wine tonight...that is all.

Agreed! Like I have said and many have said already the 335i competitor is the 1M and Z4MC NOT the E92 M3. Sorry some of you folks are still dragging this shit along. An E46 M3 is another one that would give it a run for its money. LMFAO!

[Vagus]

Originally Posted by GIdriver

Thanks Tibra...

BTW, I didn't know that Elie335 is one of the 335i owners who mods their car to look like an M3. My bad... http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=613650

But, whatever floats your boat...

And for the record, I also own an N54 135i vert.

Hahahahahaha

Very nice find!