Michelin Pilot Super Sport - Page 29

GregW / Oregon · 10-26-2012, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

Has anyone noticed any torque loss with the 255/275 setup?

The circumference difference between 265/35& 275/35-19 is 1%. I seriously doubt you can detect a 1% difference in torque.

naterater · 10-26-2012, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by itf joegun

I contacted the Michelin customer service via Email and explained my problem. They will pickup the tires free of charge and check whats wrong. This indicates that 3mm after 11000 Kilometers is also not aceptable for them. I keep you updated...

Great to hear you got in contact with someone and they are looking into it for you. Michelin customer service is usually top notch!

ChrisK · 10-26-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

The circumference difference between 265/35& 275/35-19 is 1%. I seriously doubt you can detect a 1% difference in torque.

I ran into this when I plus sized my tires another bimmer. The car felt sluggish off the line. It's also the extra weight (1lb is a lot)

GregW / Oregon · 10-26-2012, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

I ran into this when I plus sized my tires another bimmer. The car felt sluggish off the line. It's also the extra weight (1lb is a lot)

Your Buttmeter is way better than mine, then! It'd be interesting to see some test data.

aus · 10-26-2012, 03:51 PM

Good to see Greg still here.
You have the new /M order setup already?

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GregW / Oregon · 10-26-2012, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by aus

Good to see Greg still here.
You have the new /M order setup already?

Thanks. Not yet. Just got a new Merc ML for the wife, so may wait a year or two. I'll be starting to follow it, though.

Denk · 10-26-2012, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ChrisK

I ran into this when I plus sized my tires another bimmer. The car felt sluggish off the line. It's also the extra weight (1lb is a lot)

Same here, more snap off the line with stock sizes for me. I was comparing like tires, PSS's. I'm a huge fan of reducing unsprung weight. A little bit here and there is noticeable if you've got a sensitive butt meter.

GregW / Oregon · 10-26-2012, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Denk

Same here, more snap off the line with stock sizes for me. I was comparing like tires, PSS's. I'm a huge fan of reducing unsprung weight. A little bit here and there is noticeable if you've got a sensitive butt meter.

I, too, agree that unprung weight is important. That's why I have forged RAC Monolites that are about 22# for the 19x10 rears. I don't think a lb. or two in tire weight is huge unless you're racing. All things are some form of compromise, and for me the beefier profile and slight extra grip offsets any negatives.

jerseygirl · 10-26-2012, 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by 808MGuy

Unfortunately, the Super Sports aren't even available in M3 sizes no matter if you run 18, 19 or 20" wheels

i have the super sport on mine i went 10mm bigger front and back

Denk · 10-26-2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

I, too, agree that unprung weight is important. That's why I have forged RAC Monolites that are about 22# for the 19x10 rears. I don't think a lb. or two in tire wieght is huge unless you're racing. All things are some form of compromise, and for me the beefier profile and slight extra grip offsets any negatives.

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Cool, nice wheel indeed. HRE's here, 22lbs rear also, et20. Provides a nice aggressive appearance w/stock sized tires. Upsized PSS's definitely affected the feel of shifts on my DCT. Felt sluggish compared to stock size PSS's and that's just in normal driving. Maybe 6mt gearing would have less effect, dunno...just my experience on my car.

GregW / Oregon · 10-26-2012, 10:26 PM

Here are my PSSs, waiting for their debut. Problem is my Vreds have 6/32"F & 7/32"R left, but I bought the Michelins early to get the $70 card. I could go through most of the Winter with the current tires, but not sure I want to.

naterater · 10-27-2012, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

Here are my PSSs, waiting for their debut. Problem is my Vreds have 6/32"F & 7/32"R left, but I bought the Michelins early to get the $70 card. I could go through most of the Winter with the current tires, but not sure I want to.

That will be hard to have just sitting around...

1MOREMOD · 10-27-2012, 11:36 AM

go practive your drifitng skills to burn up those vreds.

GregW / Oregon · 10-27-2012, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by naterater

That will be hard to have just sitting around...

People sit, thing set

GregW / Oregon · 10-27-2012, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by chriszeh

go practive your drifitng skills to burn up those vreds.

It's so wet here now that would not be effective.

1MOREMOD · 10-28-2012, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

It's so wet here now that would not be effective.

agreed im in the same area. would be fun and good practice though.

naterater · 11-05-2012, 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by GregW / Oregon

People sit, thing set

Longbow64 · 01-31-2013, 05:43 PM

Still waiting on word on the 285/30/19? I have 245/35/19f and 275/30/19r right now and won't need new fronts when I need rears, but don't think I'll have enough room with a 295 setup in the rear. My offset on 10" wheels is 20ET in the rear with a slight drop on KWV3. Measurement from the center roundel is 13.5" to the fender.

CarbonFoot · 01-31-2013, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Longbow64

Still waiting on word on the 285/30/19? I have 245/35/19f and 275/30/19r right now and won't need new fronts when I need rears, but don't think I'll have enough room with a 295 setup in the rear. My offset on 10" wheels is 20ET in the rear with a slight drop on KWV3. Measurement from the center roundel is 13.5" to the fender.

I'm waiting for 285s as well. Currently running PSS 295s in the rear on 10.5" and ET23 and it does scrub on bumps. If they ever release 285s, I'm going to jump on them.

Longbow64 · 02-01-2013, 08:50 AM

According to http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp a 245/35/19 on an 8.5" wheel in the front paired with a 285/30/19 on a 10" wheel on the back matches up perfectly. A 255/35/19 and a 295/30/19 also pair perfectly but I don't need new front tires and I'm worried about the 295 rubbing.

JC919 · 02-01-2013, 09:36 AM

About to go to my second set of PSS with a setup of:

18x9.5 w/265-35
18X10 w/285-35

Absolutely no complaints here. I previously ran PSCups on the car and the PSS are the best street tires I've had.

bape_sta206 · 02-04-2013, 06:36 PM

Funny how people mentioned it felt sluggish when going bigger. I felt the same when I mounted on my FIs. I recently installed Brembo so that will help reduce more unsprung weight.

10-26-2012, 03:51 PM	#621
aus Major General Drives: M3 Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Seal Beach, CA Posts: 6,181 iTrader: (5)	Good to see Greg still here. You have the new /M order setup already? . __________________ Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."

10-26-2012, 10:26 PM	#627
GregW / Oregon Commander-In-Chief Drives: 2008 M3 Coupe, 2012 ML350 Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Lake Oswego, OR Posts: 6,198 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2012 Mercedes ML 350 [0.00] 2008 E92 M3 Coupe [4.75]	PSSs Here are my PSSs, waiting for their debut. Problem is my Vreds have 6/32"F & 7/32"R left, but I bought the Michelins early to get the $70 card. I could go through most of the Winter with the current tires, but not sure I want to. __________________ Greg Lake Oswego, Oregon, USA 2008 M3 Coupe - Alpine/Fox Red/Carbon 2015 M4 pre-ordered 2012 Mercedes-Benz ML350

10-27-2012, 11:36 AM	#629
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,529 iTrader: (3)	go practive your drifitng skills to burn up those vreds. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

01-31-2013, 05:43 PM	#634
Longbow64 _______ Drives: 09 E90 M3, 13 X3 35i MSport Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: El Paso Posts: 515 iTrader: (3)	Still waiting on word on the 285/30/19? I have 245/35/19f and 275/30/19r right now and won't need new fronts when I need rears, but don't think I'll have enough room with a 295 setup in the rear. My offset on 10" wheels is 20ET in the rear with a slight drop on KWV3. Measurement from the center roundel is 13.5" to the fender. __________________ '09 E90 M3 SG \| VF620 SC \| BPM Sport coding \| AA Catless Exhaust \| KW V3 \| BMW Performance Wheel \| Alpine 8K Eyes \| 355M Style Wheels \| Recaro Child Seat '13 X3 DSB with M Sport \| H&R Springs \| Gloss black grill \| Coded by me

02-01-2013, 08:50 AM	#636
Longbow64 _______ Drives: 09 E90 M3, 13 X3 35i MSport Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: El Paso Posts: 515 iTrader: (3)	According to http://www.rimsntires.com/specs.jsp a 245/35/19 on an 8.5" wheel in the front paired with a 285/30/19 on a 10" wheel on the back matches up perfectly. A 255/35/19 and a 295/30/19 also pair perfectly but I don't need new front tires and I'm worried about the 295 rubbing. __________________ '09 E90 M3 SG \| VF620 SC \| BPM Sport coding \| AA Catless Exhaust \| KW V3 \| BMW Performance Wheel \| Alpine 8K Eyes \| 355M Style Wheels \| Recaro Child Seat '13 X3 DSB with M Sport \| H&R Springs \| Gloss black grill \| Coded by me

02-01-2013, 09:36 AM	#637
JC919 Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 08 e92 M3 6MT Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Houston & Lake Travis, TX Posts: 1,755 iTrader: (0)	About to go to my second set of PSS with a setup of: 18x9.5 w/265-35 18X10 w/285-35 Absolutely no complaints here. I previously ran PSCups on the car and the PSS are the best street tires I've had. __________________ 2008 AW/Blk 6MT, Akrapovic Evolution, Evosport Pulley, ESS Tune, Dinan Camber Plates, H&R Springs, Braille LWB, Other Track Goodies, TRMotorsport MT1 18s w/Michelin PSS and Hoosier R6

02-04-2013, 06:36 PM	#638
bape_sta206 tha_good_life Drives: 2010 JzB E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Seattle Posts: 3,581 iTrader: (14) Garage List 2010 BMW M3 [4.27]	Funny how people mentioned it felt sluggish when going bigger. I felt the same when I mounted on my FIs. I recently installed Brembo so that will help reduce more unsprung weight.

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