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      10-26-2012, 06:45 PM   #1
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X pipe questions.

I was at a Local muffler shop and I noticed that for a fraction of the price they can assemble a full xpipe with HFCs and resonators for a fraction of Aa and other brands out there. I questioned the quality of parts but was assured that all is equivilant to most of the units on the market. Please forward your kind two cents on this topic. Thanks.
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      10-26-2012, 07:04 PM   #2
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I'm sure your local shop can build a decent one for you, but for my money, I'd go with design that has been proven. Power, sound, fit and durability are all factors I would consider before buying an x-pipe. Have a custom one built just leaves a lot of unknowns on the table, which I for one wouldn't be comfortable with.
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      10-26-2012, 07:13 PM   #3
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The guys at my local shop say the same thing. I still have a stock midpipe but when the time comes to switch it out I may let them fabricate a custom x pipe for me.
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      10-26-2012, 07:31 PM   #4
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I bought this:http://www.carid.com/universal-exhau...FQWe4AodV2kA0Q

And just had him build off of it.
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You can buy a Top Speed x-pipe for about $500. Can't fabricate one for that. Maybe for twice as much, but it won't be twice as good.
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You can buy a Top Speed x-pipe for about $500. Can't fabricate one for that. Maybe for twice as much, but it won't be twice as good.
This I exactly why I started this. Please provide factual points not just opinions.
Everyone knows that each time a product exchanges distributors and suppliers price increases. Plus you pay for the polished finished as well. If someone knows for sure that AA or Dinan applies a perfected method of producing such item then I will pay their price. Otherwise if its just the polished finish with a badge on the tip then it's a different story.
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I have been running the top speed x-pipe for a year. Paid $475 shipped. It was too loud since it has no cats and no resonators so I added 4 resonators. They cost $200 plus $150 for welding. I did the cutting and tack welding and test fitting. I think top speed sells one now with two resonators but I wanted 4 for extra civilization.

I could have made an x-pipe or modified a stock pipe or bought a much more expensive brand name pipe, if I thought the expense and result would be worthwhile.
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I have been running the top speed x-pipe for a year. Paid $475 shipped. It was too loud since it has no cats and no resonators so I added 4 resonators. They cost $200 plus $150 for welding. I did the cutting and tack welding and test fitting. I think top speed sells one now with two resonators but I wanted 4 for extra civilization.

I could have made an x-pipe or modified a stock pipe or bought a much more expensive brand name pipe, if I thought the expense and result would be worthwhile.
is this on a stock exhuast or aftermarket? have you noticed an HP increase after the swap>?
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Absolutely on the power increase. I did a pulley first and believed I could feel that. The gain from the exhaust was more dramatic. I did not think it lost anything on the bottom end. I totally believe the +20 to +25 rwhp results most people get from a catless x-pipe. My rear exhaust is stock. I have yet to see any dynos of gains from rear exhaust changes, though people seem to like the sound changes. Even BMW makes no power gain for its $4000 rear exhaust, and claims only a more powerful sound. I daily drive the car so I want a civilized sound.

I have not been on the dyno to verify, but I will say that I thought the car was a bit slow before and now I think it is OK for a driver. It goes pretty good.
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If you are looking to save a buck why not just have the shop cut out your oem cats/resonators and replace with HFC/straight pipes? That would by far be the most cost effective option.
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Muffler shop will not remove primary cats. I tried. It's not a budget issue but more of cost effectiveness. I refuse to pay 2000 for a xpipe when fabricating equivalent piece for 1/3 is more logical.
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Muffler shop will not remove primary cats. I tried. It's not a budget issue but more of cost effectiveness. I refuse to pay 2000 for a xpipe when fabricating equivalent piece for 1/3 is more logical.
I agree. However, turner motorsports re-released their test pipes. Best price around. They ship next week.
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