tint along defroster lines...

doree610 · 10-25-2012, 09:32 PM

Got my windows tinted about a week ago. My initial reaction was not pleasant.. Found air bubbles/pockets throughout the car which I understand is normal. However, the rear window had to be the worst as you can see from the pics below. I took the car back after a few days to have the manager (who was one of two guys who tinted it) take a look. He said he'd redo the small side panel window behind the drivers seat, but did not really seem to care about the rear window which was even worse. Anyways, i thought i'd give it at least a week under the sun to see if it helped and it really hasn't changed. Sucks more because I found another streak about 1.5 inches long on the front windshield, in clear view from the passengers seat. Bottom line, I'd like to have the front windshield and rear window re-tinted. Has anybody else have the same issue with the tints not sticking to the defroster lines? If so, how did you deal with the issue. Thanks.

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MStar · 10-25-2012, 09:40 PM

Thats a terrible job...had mine done and it had some imperfections but not that bad

Check this out..Post #5

lorinzo · 10-26-2012, 01:01 PM

Sorry, but somebody goofed up that job.
Get your money back!

M3PO · 10-26-2012, 02:42 PM

My tint sticks fine to the defroster lines. Your dot matrix looks really bad also.

whats77inaname · 10-26-2012, 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lorinzo

Sorry, but somebody goofed up that job.
Get your money back!

This. What kind of film? Might want to let other people know about that shop so it can be avoided.

Nicname · 10-26-2012, 06:18 PM

Everything on mine is perfect except the dot matrix also... Is there anyway to fix this without having to remove and retint?

Denk · 10-26-2012, 06:25 PM

I had my shop do the vinyl over the dot matrix. I'm very happy with the results. Here's another post to check out.
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=704646

M3PO · 10-26-2012, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicname

Everything on mine is perfect except the dot matrix also... Is there anyway to fix this without having to remove and retint?

Vinyl is an option for you I think. The tinter can remove the upper dot matrix portion of your current tint and replace it with vinyl. I think your other option (sanding) includes removing the current tint.

You could try using a heat gun or a hair dryer and pressing it yourself to see if you can make it adhere around the dots any better. That might help but not completely eliminate the problem.

doree610 · 10-27-2012, 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whats77inaname

This. What kind of film? Might want to let other people know about that shop so it can be avoided.

Suntek CXP 35 all around. and CXP 55 for the windshield. The place is pretty reputable around here. I drove by their other location across town and had the manager look at it. He told me to come by sometime next week and they'll see if they can smooth it out, if not replace it. I'm hoping they just replace the whole thing.. As for the dot matrix, he suggested painting it. Dunno how i feel about that either.

ILSMKU · 10-27-2012, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yolkster

Thats a terrible job...had mine done and it had some imperfections but not that bad

Check this out..Post #5

You should take it back and have them tint the 3rd brake light area. It looks funny with it clear like that. Even with tint, the 3rd brake light can still be seen just fine.

doree610 · 10-27-2012, 04:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3PO

Vinyl is an option for you I think. The tinter can remove the upper dot matrix portion of your current tint and replace it with vinyl. I think your other option (sanding) includes removing the current tint.

You could try using a heat gun or a hair dryer and pressing it yourself to see if you can make it adhere around the dots any better. That might help but not completely eliminate the problem.

are you sure Vinyl is an option afterwards? if thats the case, i should find a place that does vinyl because this one offers to paint it. and i'm not feeling that..

mark896 · 10-28-2012, 01:22 PM

Same thing happened to me. I took it to a guy in NJ who knows EXACTLY how to deal with dot matrix and defroster lines and he took the garbage tint off and installed new tint PERFECTLY. No bubbles anywhere on the entire car, including the dot matrix on the door windows (I have a coupe).

I would tell them to either re-do it or get your money back and find someone that knows what they're doing.

Mike van D · 10-28-2012, 03:43 PM

horrible job...get them to either re-do or refund.

M3PO · 10-29-2012, 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doree610

are you sure Vinyl is an option afterwards? if thats the case, i should find a place that does vinyl because this one offers to paint it. and i'm not feeling that..

I don't see why not. Call around and see what they can do for you. This place that did it for you already is probably gonna do a shitty job again so I think you'll have to take it somewhere else.

Templar · 10-29-2012, 03:18 PM

The vinyl will work just fine. It'll look 100% better. The dot-matrix, I mean.

As for the rest of it, that's just a bad job. Better try your luck somewhere else

doree610 · 10-29-2012, 09:44 PM

**update**

things went from bad, to worse... tint seems to be the least of my troubles now.
so instead of going to the original location, i chose to go to their 2nd location which does all the tinting for the BMW dealership in town. figured, these guys had more experience with tint for BMWs. went in today around 1:30 to have the front windshield, and rear windshield retinted.. the guys noticed the driver window and both side panels needed work too so agreed to redo those. off to a great start right? i knew this was going to take longer because they had to remove the tint and glue from all the windows. 3 hrs later... my car is ready to roll out. manager comes out to hand my keys when he noticed a bubble in the rear windshield. he said it wasn't water but glue, and needed to go back in to have it done all over again... its about 5:15 when it seems everything is done. he pointed out a bubble in almost the same spot before but said he was 90% sure its water this time and i should give it some time... i don't know, it was time for them to close and i'm sure by now these guys have seen enough of my car today. so i take the keys and as i'm driving out their lot, i noticed the small tray that flips open was broken.

Attachment 773458

showed the manager what one of his guys did. he made a call to the BMW dealership and left a message for his guy/contact to take care of me. i went straight to the dealership and got a quote for the damaged piece.

Attachment 773460

i'm sure these guys have no idea how expensive this damage is going to cost them.. to make matters worse, i noticed after i left the dealership my head lights along with all the interior lighting of the car was flickering (around 10secs) when the engine started. happened 2 more times tonight after the car had been turned off for awhile and restarted. hopefully this electrical issue has nothing to due with all the water that was sprayed and go onto the dash while they were installing the front windshield... anyways... i don't know what i'm going to do from here. cause in the end, even giving the tint some time to cure i think its still gonna turn out bad. but like i said in the beginning of this post, it seems after all this tint my be the least of my worries. sorry for the long post...

mark896 · 10-30-2012, 06:58 AM

Well, at least they're willing to fix their mistakes.. Could be a LOT worse, trust me.

positiveions · 10-30-2012, 04:01 PM

not good at all

M3PO · 10-30-2012, 04:33 PM

Oh man, good luck.

tbone28 · 10-31-2012, 11:46 AM

good luck. If you're patient in your search, you can find an installer who can install properly without the use of vinyl or paint.

Peahi · 11-04-2012, 08:47 AM

Damn dude, you have some baboons working on your car. So much for a reputable place. Damaging the car on top of that is unbelievable.

Good luck and I hope everything gets fixed.

10-25-2012, 09:32 PM	#1
doree610 Enlisted Member Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: SC Posts: 36 iTrader: (0)	tint along defroster lines... Got my windows tinted about a week ago. My initial reaction was not pleasant.. Found air bubbles/pockets throughout the car which I understand is normal. However, the rear window had to be the worst as you can see from the pics below. I took the car back after a few days to have the manager (who was one of two guys who tinted it) take a look. He said he'd redo the small side panel window behind the drivers seat, but did not really seem to care about the rear window which was even worse. Anyways, i thought i'd give it at least a week under the sun to see if it helped and it really hasn't changed. Sucks more because I found another streak about 1.5 inches long on the front windshield, in clear view from the passengers seat. Bottom line, I'd like to have the front windshield and rear window re-tinted. Has anybody else have the same issue with the tints not sticking to the defroster lines? If so, how did you deal with the issue. Thanks.
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10-26-2012, 01:01 PM	#3
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10-26-2012, 02:42 PM	#4
M3PO Colonel Drives: '08 IB E92 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: OC Posts: 2,176 iTrader: (6)	My tint sticks fine to the defroster lines. Your dot matrix looks really bad also. __________________ 2008 IB E92 M3\| BBS \| KW \| Arkym \| Platte Forme A.G. \| Active Autowerke \| K&N \| Fabspeed \| Dinan \| Evolve-R

10-26-2012, 06:18 PM	#6
Nicname Captain Drives: '12 M3 E92 JB Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Bergen County, NJ Posts: 789 iTrader: (2)	Everything on mine is perfect except the dot matrix also... Is there anyway to fix this without having to remove and retint? __________________ '12 E92 ///M3 DCT loaded l Lux 5000k H8 l Gintani Sport l Gintani HFC x-pipe l Velos Tuning l Amuse Trunk l 20 % tints l Black kidneys/reflectors

10-28-2012, 03:43 PM	#13
Mike van D Major Drives: SG X6 35i; MW e92 M3 Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 1,114 iTrader: (0)	horrible job...get them to either re-do or refund. __________________ ...just enjoying life.

10-25-2012, 09:40 PM	#2
MStar Banned Drives: e92 M3 Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Here and there Posts: 290 iTrader: (0)	Thats a terrible job...had mine done and it had some imperfections but not that bad Check this out..Post #5

10-26-2012, 06:25 PM	#7
Denk Major Drives: 2012 e92 DCT M3 Join Date: May 2011 Location: Tigard, OR Posts: 1,086 iTrader: (0)	I had my shop do the vinyl over the dot matrix. I'm very happy with the results. Here's another post to check out. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=704646

10-28-2012, 01:22 PM	#12
mark896 Warrant Officer Drives: 2011.5 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alabama Posts: 432 iTrader: (0)	Same thing happened to me. I took it to a guy in NJ who knows EXACTLY how to deal with dot matrix and defroster lines and he took the garbage tint off and installed new tint PERFECTLY. No bubbles anywhere on the entire car, including the dot matrix on the door windows (I have a coupe). I would tell them to either re-do it or get your money back and find someone that knows what they're doing.

10-29-2012, 03:18 PM	#15
Templar Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2011 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NC Posts: 1,699 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 BMW M3 [5.00]	The vinyl will work just fine. It'll look 100% better. The dot-matrix, I mean. As for the rest of it, that's just a bad job. Better try your luck somewhere else __________________ '11 BMW E92 ///M3 - ZCP and DCT '11 Ford F-150 XLT - Supercrew, 4x4, Ecoboost V6, Chrome/Convenience Package, Tow Package

10-29-2012, 09:44 PM	#16
doree610 Enlisted Member Drives: 2013 E92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: SC Posts: 36 iTrader: (0)	update things went from bad, to worse... tint seems to be the least of my troubles now. so instead of going to the original location, i chose to go to their 2nd location which does all the tinting for the BMW dealership in town. figured, these guys had more experience with tint for BMWs. went in today around 1:30 to have the front windshield, and rear windshield retinted.. the guys noticed the driver window and both side panels needed work too so agreed to redo those. off to a great start right? i knew this was going to take longer because they had to remove the tint and glue from all the windows. 3 hrs later... my car is ready to roll out. manager comes out to hand my keys when he noticed a bubble in the rear windshield. he said it wasn't water but glue, and needed to go back in to have it done all over again... its about 5:15 when it seems everything is done. he pointed out a bubble in almost the same spot before but said he was 90% sure its water this time and i should give it some time... i don't know, it was time for them to close and i'm sure by now these guys have seen enough of my car today. so i take the keys and as i'm driving out their lot, i noticed the small tray that flips open was broken. Attachment 773458 showed the manager what one of his guys did. he made a call to the BMW dealership and left a message for his guy/contact to take care of me. i went straight to the dealership and got a quote for the damaged piece. Attachment 773460 i'm sure these guys have no idea how expensive this damage is going to cost them.. to make matters worse, i noticed after i left the dealership my head lights along with all the interior lighting of the car was flickering (around 10secs) when the engine started. happened 2 more times tonight after the car had been turned off for awhile and restarted. hopefully this electrical issue has nothing to due with all the water that was sprayed and go onto the dash while they were installing the front windshield... anyways... i don't know what i'm going to do from here. cause in the end, even giving the tint some time to cure i think its still gonna turn out bad. but like i said in the beginning of this post, it seems after all this tint my be the least of my worries. sorry for the long post... Last edited by doree610; 10-29-2012 at 10:06 PM.

10-30-2012, 06:58 AM	#17
mark896 Warrant Officer Drives: 2011.5 E92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Alabama Posts: 432 iTrader: (0)	Well, at least they're willing to fix their mistakes.. Could be a LOT worse, trust me.

10-30-2012, 04:01 PM	#18
positiveions Major General Drives: 09 MKV JETTA 2.5 & E90 M3 :) Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: La Verne, CA Posts: 8,835 iTrader: (1)	not good at all __________________

10-30-2012, 04:33 PM	#19
M3PO Colonel Drives: '08 IB E92 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: OC Posts: 2,176 iTrader: (6)	Oh man, good luck. __________________ 2008 IB E92 M3\| BBS \| KW \| Arkym \| Platte Forme A.G. \| Active Autowerke \| K&N \| Fabspeed \| Dinan \| Evolve-R

10-31-2012, 11:46 AM	#20
tbone28 vvvvvvvvvvvvvv Drives: ^^^^^ Join Date: May 2012 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 1,275 iTrader: (10)	good luck. If you're patient in your search, you can find an installer who can install properly without the use of vinyl or paint.

11-04-2012, 08:47 AM	#21
Peahi Lieutenant Drives: 2012 M3 CPE Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: SF Bay Area Posts: 594 iTrader: (0)	Damn dude, you have some baboons working on your car. So much for a reputable place. Damaging the car on top of that is unbelievable. Good luck and I hope everything gets fixed. __________________

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