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      10-17-2012, 02:42 PM   #1
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Review: Macht Schnell Bypass Track Pipes

Modding never stops! First of all thank you to Tom and Steve at EAS for the dyno time and support. Thank you to Joe for helping me install also.

Last friday with my E92, stock exhaust and no performance mods on the car at the time, I went in for a baseline dyno. Basically I decided I wanted to do something else with the exhaust craving a bit more power that was cost-effective and subtle with sound. Right after getting my numbers down, we went back to the shop to install the Macht Schnell Bypass Track Pipes. Just had the "after" dyno done yesterday. Ill get the most important part out of the way, the dynos:









Like most, I wouldnt want to put anything on my car that didnt make power. I was very satisfied with the results. Driving-wise, Id say the sweet spot is from about 4500 rpm to 7000 rpm. There is continuous gain throughout the whole powerband nonetheless. At around 6000 rpm, a gain of 23-24 whp can be seen.

Here's a soundclip we took:


With the track pipes, a throatier tone is produced. As others have mentioned before, this is how the exhaust should sound stock.

Here are some pics from install:

















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      10-18-2012, 02:00 PM   #2
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Excellent gains! Great start on the modding.
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      10-18-2012, 02:16 PM   #3
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Sounds good. What else do you plan to add?
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      10-18-2012, 03:27 PM   #4
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Awesome stuff!
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      10-18-2012, 03:52 PM   #5
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Sounds really nice. Curious to hear what it sounds like w/ other exhaust configs.
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      10-18-2012, 04:28 PM   #6
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I'm seriously considering these. It's just too bad they didn't extend the driver side pipe to just before the secondary cats to get rid of those nasty stock bends and kinds.

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Let me get this straight... You are swapping out parts designed by some of the top engineers in the world because some guys sponsored by a company told you it's "better??" But when you ask the same guy about tracking, "oh no, I have a kid now" or "I just detailed my car." or "i just got new tires."
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      10-18-2012, 04:39 PM   #7
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very satisfied with the gains, thanks for getting me in early Tom!

havent had a chance to think of future performance mods yet. will soon =)
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      10-18-2012, 05:27 PM   #8
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I take it a CEL is produced?
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      10-18-2012, 05:41 PM   #9
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I take it a CEL is produced?
correct, but it can always be removed if desired. personally I dont mind it.
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Very nice my next mod ! Very soon
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I'm seriously considering these.
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well-worth it in my opinion =)
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Get a tune and you'll get another 20+ out of her
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just installed the MS pulley and stage 2 intake. sweet spot just got sweeter =)
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just installed the MS pulley and stage 2 intake. sweet spot just got sweeter =)
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What would be the difference in the MS test pipes compared to having the primary cats deleted from a custom shop? Will i see the same gains?
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^ You will see very very similar gains. And perhaps a bit cheaper depending on the shop. Mine cost $300 installed with welds and it turned out really well. Paired with a Dinan rear exhaust it sounds absolutely perfect and no drone. The power gain is very noticeable.... as others have said it does need to be finished off with a tune though. That's my next step. Good Luck!
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I have 100 cell race cat then straight pipe to muffler. If I change 100 cell cat to this test pipe how big of difference will it make on power?
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      10-25-2012, 07:50 AM   #19
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so how much is this?
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Hey Sean, I think they are going in the $500 range...I bought my TTPs on sale for $375.

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Macht Schnell Bypass Track Pipes on the X-mas List
thanks bro, good seeing you again when I was picking up the pulley/intake and brake pads. need to find some time to dyno again.
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First we have straight pipes, then test pipes...and now we have track pipes...

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