6MT Clutch Fail - pressure spring fell out

saeedg48 · 08-18-2011, 08:39 PM

driving back from the gym. put it in 1st in the parking lot driving along put my foot down to engage 2nd and i hear a quite crunch. lift my foot up and push the clutch up and down a few times until this spring popped out from under the clutch peddle..i drove to the dealer and they told me they would take care of it first thing in the morning when they got the part in from their warehouse.

questions:

1. what is this and why is this happening to my car, i've been driving so slow lately.
i just got a new clutch and flywheel under warranty.

even though i love the m i can't wait to get out of it and get into a proper car, porsche turbo or cls63..

Krozi · 08-18-2011, 09:36 PM

Weird lol...does a clutch/flywheel job even require taking that spring off?

elp_jc · 08-18-2011, 11:53 PM

Never heard of the clutch pedal getting stuck in the middle, but just read your other thread, and had to edit my post. Dealer obviously messed with your clutch pedal for some reason; maybe they replaced the master cylinder as well. And the tech didn't attach the spring correctly. It's an ultra minor thing compared to the new clutch. By the way, how many miles on your clutch before it gave out? And did you buy the car new? Just curious. Good luck.

saeedg48 · 08-19-2011, 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by elp_jc

Never heard of the clutch pedal getting stuck in the middle, but just read your other thread, and had to edit my post. Dealer obviously messed with your clutch pedal for some reason; maybe they replaced the master cylinder as well. And the tech didn't attach the spring correctly. It's an ultra minor thing compared to the new clutch. By the way, how many miles on your clutch before it gave out? And did you buy the car new? Just curious. Good luck.

bought the car with 3 miles; new from a canadian dealer. replaced the clutch and flywheel at 35,341. right now there's 37,300 miles on the car.

J08M3 · 08-19-2011, 06:38 AM

That's the spring that is supposed to make it easier to push the pedal. Some people take it out. I did in my 08 and liked the difference. But when I tried in my 11 I didn't so I put it back in. Not a big deal. Very odd it fell out or broke.

Blotman · 08-19-2011, 10:21 AM

Doesn't look like anything actually "broke". I'm guessing one of the pins (part #22) fell out. These pins hold that spring assembly in place. The e-clips (part #23) are supposed to prevent those pins from sliding out. It's possible that one of those clips lost their grip on the pin and popped off first.

I know from experience that pulling and placing those clips can bend them loose. One did fall off on me some time after I replaced my 08 clutch spring with the more recent version. I used a pair of pliers to bend it tight again.

Malek@MRF · 08-19-2011, 10:59 AM

How is the M not a proper car? Just wondering, I'm a bit confused.

Mike Benvo · 08-19-2011, 10:21 PM

That could have only happened by being installed incorrectly.

I changed that spring on my car from the early style one to the later style one. It was extremely difficult to pop the eclips off to allow that spring housing to slide out. Somehow the clip must have come off of yours...

That's crazy..

Why did you need a new clutch at 33K miles? I'm at 34K now and it feels good as new.

Dave07997S · 08-19-2011, 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malekreza11

How is the M not a proper car? Just wondering, I'm a bit confused.

Agreed, "Lucy you got some splainin to do"...

BTW Malek..I'm back left you a message.

Dave

Mike Benvo · 08-20-2011, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave07997S

Agreed, "Lucy you got some splainin to do"...

BTW Malek..I'm back left you a message.

Dave

U back from Japan? I got a good o2 sensor story for ya

guidance · 10-23-2012, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elp_jc

Dealer obviously messed with your clutch pedal for some reason; maybe they replaced the master cylinder as well. And the tech didn't attach the spring correctly. .

Most likely the pedal got stuck on the floor when bleeding the clutch. This happens more than not. Pulling the pedal up off the floor several times can break the plastic part of the spring assy. It can be slapped back together after it's broken, but will come apart again.

M3PO · 10-23-2012, 04:04 PM

I wanna know the clutch story too. Mine has 54k and is going strong.

positiveions · 10-23-2012, 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M3PO

I wanna know the clutch story too. Mine has 54k and is going strong.

someone who is really abusing it.

MStar · 10-23-2012, 04:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saeedg48

even though i love the m i can't wait to get out of it and get into a proper car, porsche turbo or cls63..

I really chuckle at these posts...seems whenever certain folks have a mechanical problem, their first is response is I'm ditching BMW for another car maker..lol

FYI..these cars will not be immune to installation errors or abuse either..

img · 10-23-2012, 05:23 PM

They had to replace that spring on my 08 as well when they installed the oem upgraded flywheel and clutch !

caseyjohnso · 10-23-2012, 08:06 PM

Some people take it out. I did in my 08 and liked the difference

08-18-2011, 08:39 PM	#1
saeedg48 Brigadier General Drives: 08 6MT M3 + 12 CLS63 + 14 M6 C Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Unknown Posts: 3,356 iTrader: (1)	6MT Clutch Fail - pressure spring fell out driving back from the gym. put it in 1st in the parking lot driving along put my foot down to engage 2nd and i hear a quite crunch. lift my foot up and push the clutch up and down a few times until this spring popped out from under the clutch peddle..i drove to the dealer and they told me they would take care of it first thing in the morning when they got the part in from their warehouse. questions: 1. what is this and why is this happening to my car, i've been driving so slow lately. i just got a new clutch and flywheel under warranty. even though i love the m i can't wait to get out of it and get into a proper car, porsche turbo or cls63.. __________________ _______________ Last edited by saeedg48; 08-19-2011 at 03:03 AM.
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08-18-2011, 11:53 PM	#3
elp_jc Brigadier General Drives: . Join Date: May 2008 Location: . Posts: 4,912 iTrader: (0)	Never heard of the clutch pedal getting stuck in the middle, but just read your other thread, and had to edit my post. Dealer obviously messed with your clutch pedal for some reason; maybe they replaced the master cylinder as well. And the tech didn't attach the spring correctly. It's an ultra minor thing compared to the new clutch. By the way, how many miles on your clutch before it gave out? And did you buy the car new? Just curious. Good luck. Last edited by elp_jc; 08-19-2011 at 12:27 AM.

08-19-2011, 06:38 AM	#5
J08M3 Major General Drives: 2011 M3 COUPE Join Date: May 2008 Location: NEW YORK Posts: 6,015 iTrader: (8)	That's the spring that is supposed to make it easier to push the pedal. Some people take it out. I did in my 08 and liked the difference. But when I tried in my 11 I didn't so I put it back in. Not a big deal. Very odd it fell out or broke. __________________

08-19-2011, 10:59 AM	#7
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Mike Benvo BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: BPMSport M3 / 7 Series Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: SoCal Posts: 3,355 iTrader: (6)	That could have only happened by being installed incorrectly. I changed that spring on my car from the early style one to the later style one. It was extremely difficult to pop the eclips off to allow that spring housing to slide out. Somehow the clip must have come off of yours... That's crazy.. Why did you need a new clutch at 33K miles? I'm at 34K now and it feels good as new. __________________ -----\| Like us on Facebook \| Instagram \|\| Tuning Information \| Remote Coding \|----- ----Visit us at www.BPMSport.com - Emotion. Driven. \| Toll Free: (888) 557-5133----

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08-19-2011, 10:21 AM	#6
Blotman Private First Class Drives: 08 E90 M3 6MT Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Bay Area CA Posts: 168 iTrader: (2)	Doesn't look like anything actually "broke". I'm guessing one of the pins (part #22) fell out. These pins hold that spring assembly in place. The e-clips (part #23) are supposed to prevent those pins from sliding out. It's possible that one of those clips lost their grip on the pin and popped off first. I know from experience that pulling and placing those clips can bend them loose. One did fall off on me some time after I replaced my 08 clutch spring with the more recent version. I used a pair of pliers to bend it tight again.

10-23-2012, 04:04 PM	#12
M3PO Colonel Drives: '08 IB E92 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: OC Posts: 2,234 iTrader: (6)	I wanna know the clutch story too. Mine has 54k and is going strong. __________________ 2008 IB E92 M3\| BBS \| KW \| Arkym \| Platte Forme A.G. \| Active Autowerke \| K&N \| Fabspeed \| Dinan \| Evolve-R

10-23-2012, 05:23 PM	#15
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10-23-2012, 08:06 PM	#16
caseyjohnso New Member Drives: bmw Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: look Posts: 7 iTrader: (0)	Some people take it out. I did in my 08 and liked the difference __________________

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