Torin T43004 jack stands w/aluminum blocks for BMW jack points - Page 2

RBB · 08-30-2012, 08:23 AM

Just ordered a set of the jack stands with removable blocks. I've got some maintenance to do next weekend. Can't wait to give them a try and I'll be sure to post up my thoughts.

Fred@ReverseLogic · 08-30-2012, 07:07 PM

There is a good chance you will receive the jack stands by 01-Sep. I shipped your order out this afternoon.

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Originally Posted by RBB

Just ordered a set of the jack stands with removable blocks. I've got some maintenance to do next weekend. Can't wait to give them a try and I'll be sure to post up my thoughts.

Novator · 08-31-2012, 06:16 AM

Definitely want to buy a set of these when I return back to the states, glad someone has finally made these a reality ;-)

RBB · 09-13-2012, 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred@ReverseLogic

There is a good chance you will receive the jack stands by 01-Sep. I shipped your order out this afternoon.

They did arrive on the 1st, Fred. I used them just as you suggested with no problems. Fast and easy to get the car up. I was using the ECS Tuning adapters previously but these stands are much more convenient. Great product.

Fred@ReverseLogic · 10-17-2012, 10:46 PM

The inner and outer tubes on the Torin jack stands are very consistent from one unit to the next. But, the saddles on the top of the inner tube vary somewhat from piece to piece and it's a challenge to drill the hole in the center of the tube. Up until recently I was using drilling fixtures to locate the hole in the saddle. Keeping the fixture aligned with the center of the tube is tedious due to the variations in the saddle length.

Now that the volume of jack stand sales has increased I needed to improve the process of drilling the 10mm hole. I am now drilling the hole using a lathe which guarantees the holes are perfectly centered in the inner tube regardless of minor variations in the shape of the saddle.

I have a few jack stands with less than perfectly centered 10mm holes (made before we were using the lathe to drill the holes). We also have a few jack stands with more than normal scratches in the finish and other minor imperfections. I don't have enough blems to list them as regularly available. However, you are welcome to check with me and if I have any blems I will discount them by $20.

1&done · 12-28-2012, 09:40 AM

PMd

Fred@ReverseLogic · 12-28-2012, 10:02 AM

Thanks for your interest. PM responded to this morning.

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Originally Posted by 1&done

PMd

1&done · 12-31-2012, 09:05 AM

thnx for the open communication, looking fwd to the tools

Fred@ReverseLogic · 12-31-2012, 10:23 AM

There's a good chance that you will receive the tools today. Please provide your feedback once you use the jack stands.

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Originally Posted by 1&done

thnx for the open communication, looking fwd to the tools

1&done · 01-12-2013, 11:35 PM

Sorry for the delay, thanks for the quick shipping. These jack-stands are spot on. Should have bought these a long time ago. Highly recommend, worth the extra $ over stands that don't fit our cars.

Fred@ReverseLogic · 01-13-2013, 12:03 AM

Glad you are happy with the jack stands. If Torin wanted to they could offer the stands with the blocks on top instead of the generic flat-topped saddles for the same price as the standard stands. Then you could buy these from NT for $80 or the bookstore for $60. But the fact of the matter is that the T43004 stands have almost zero sales volume compared to the steel ones that sell for $20 or less per pair. If you go to the Torin website, the T43004 is not even shown as one of the available jack stand products.

The reason I have to charge a premium for the stands is that retrofitting the blocks onto the stands is not a very efficient process. First I have to take delivery of the consumer packaged stands. Then after opening a pallet full of cartons I need to separate the inner and outer tubes, drill the the holes in the saddles on a lathe with a spindle hole large enough to accommodate the tube, remove the spring loaded pins that keep the inner and outer tubes together, and mount the block. Then I have to modify the carton since the stands with the block won't fit back into the original package. Finally, there is the outbound shipping cost.

It's nice to hear that some people appreciate the results of my efforts despite the obscene price I have to charge to get this product to your doorstep.

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Originally Posted by 1&done

Sorry for the delay, thanks for the quick shipping. These jack-stands are spot on. Should have bought these a long time ago. Highly recommend, worth the extra $ over stands that don't fit our cars.

1&done · 01-15-2013, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fred@ReverseLogic

Glad you are happy with the jack stands. If Torin wanted to they could offer the stands with the blocks on top instead of the generic flat-topped saddles for the same price as the standard stands. Then you could buy these from NT for $80 or the bookstore for $60. But the fact of the matter is that the T43004 stands have almost zero sales volume compared to the steel ones that sell for $20 or less per pair. If you go to the Torin website, the T43004 is not even shown as one of the available jack stand products.

The reason I have to charge a premium for the stands is that retrofitting the blocks onto the stands is not a very efficient process. First I have to take delivery of the consumer packaged stands. Then after opening a pallet full of cartons I need to separate the inner and outer tubes, drill the the holes in the saddles on a lathe with a spindle hole large enough to accommodate the tube, remove the spring loaded pins that keep the inner and outer tubes together, and mount the block. Then I have to modify the carton since the stands with the block won't fit back into the original package. Finally, there is the outbound shipping cost.

It's nice to hear that some people appreciate the results of my efforts despite the obscene price I have to charge to get this product to your doorstep.

...very appreciative

In fact I may order a second set in the near future. I like to invest in good tools and do all my work myself, I save $ in the long run, ensure it's done to my anal standards, and have a little fun in the process. Thanks again for your innovative products.

btw, had I bought these before I did my suspension upgrade I would saved having to purchase new OEM jack-pads

again, worth the coin!

Incompatible · 01-16-2013, 11:58 AM

These are a great product, they work well (#1 priority), don't damage the underside, and go well with the quality look of our cars as a side benefit. If you consider what we spend to mod our cars and equip our garages, these really aren't pricey. Nothing like having the right tool for the job.

ersin · 01-17-2013, 10:50 AM

I got a set of these (they are sold, and should only be used, in pairs) and have used them to change wheels. What can I say? They work. And they are very well done, high quality. They are about twice as expensive as your common jack stands that you might buy at Walmart but are worth the price. Walmart stands won't work on BMWs and you can still pay more elsewhere for stands that are not as nice. Recommended.

Cheers,

Ersin

Fred@ReverseLogic · 01-17-2013, 09:29 PM

It's very gratifying to see all this positive feedback for such a simple modification to the Torin jack stands. I disassembled another pallet load of jack stands today. It's a little tedious to separate the inner and outer tubes. Unfortunately, this step is requred to fit the inner tube into the spindle of the lathe.

Fred@ReverseLogic · 01-23-2013, 04:22 PM

The rates for International Postage are increasing significantly on 27-Jan-2013. Unfortunately I will be raising the price for the jack stands shipped to any International destination beginning on Sunday. Fortunately, Domestic postal rates are not changing very much.

mikew2069 · 01-28-2013, 07:39 AM

Order placed and payment sent! Thanks for answering all of my questions and returning emails on a Sunday. Great communication!

Fred@ReverseLogic · 03-06-2013, 01:36 PM

I have a couple of less than perfect jack stands available for $90 including shipping. Typically these have more than the normal amount of scratches on the red outer tubes. They will also have blocks with minor imperfections like dust specs in the powder coating or nicks incurred during shipping and handling. Drop me a note if you are interested since I don't have the LTP pricing on the website.

j2m · 04-02-2013, 10:22 AM

Just ordered 4 of the jack stands

Johndong888 · 04-03-2013, 05:18 PM

I had a few questions and Fred answered them precisely. Standup guy he is. Obviously I ordered one and they came the following day. Used them the past weekend when I was changing the oil myself. The blocks are really nice. More people need to get these. Now i just need to know what to do with my ugly craftsman one

R0ME0 · 04-09-2013, 07:56 PM

I already have the Torin Jack Stands. Anyway I can get just the risers with the jack adapter pieces built in? Let me know.

1bad335 · 04-09-2013, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by R0ME0

I already have the Torin Jack Stands. Anyway I can get just the risers with the jack adapter pieces built in? Let me know.

They sell just the blocks on ebay.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Jack-Stand-b...c8eea3&vxp=mtr

08-31-2012, 06:16 AM	#25
Novator Captain Drives: '04 E46 M3, '11 MINI Cooper S Join Date: May 2008 Location: Austin, Texas Posts: 714 iTrader: (2) Garage List 2004 BMW M3 [4.00]	Definitely want to buy a set of these when I return back to the states, glad someone has finally made these a reality ;-) __________________

10-17-2012, 10:46 PM	#27
Fred@ReverseLogic BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: SL550 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 67 iTrader: (7)	Jack Stand blems The inner and outer tubes on the Torin jack stands are very consistent from one unit to the next. But, the saddles on the top of the inner tube vary somewhat from piece to piece and it's a challenge to drill the hole in the center of the tube. Up until recently I was using drilling fixtures to locate the hole in the saddle. Keeping the fixture aligned with the center of the tube is tedious due to the variations in the saddle length. Now that the volume of jack stand sales has increased I needed to improve the process of drilling the 10mm hole. I am now drilling the hole using a lathe which guarantees the holes are perfectly centered in the inner tube regardless of minor variations in the shape of the saddle. I have a few jack stands with less than perfectly centered 10mm holes (made before we were using the lathe to drill the holes). We also have a few jack stands with more than normal scratches in the finish and other minor imperfections. I don't have enough blems to list them as regularly available. However, you are welcome to check with me and if I have any blems I will discount them by $20.

12-28-2012, 09:40 AM	#28
1&done Captain Drives: 2008 135i Montego Blue 6mt Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 648 iTrader: (13) Garage List 2008 135i [5.00] 2008 Mini Cooper S [0.00]	PMd __________________ /// AST Coilovers w Swift springs / Vorshlag camber plates / M3 suspension conversion/ VM adj. toe links / Maddad Whisper exhaust, BERK mids /P3 gauge/ Cobb AP Stage zwei + / AR catted DPs / HPF OCC / BMWP-SSK / AA BOV & CP/ Spearco FMIC / Breyton GTS-R Race + APEX ARC-8s / Wavetrac LSD/ BMWP Elec. Wheel V2

12-31-2012, 09:05 AM	#30
1&done Captain Drives: 2008 135i Montego Blue 6mt Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 648 iTrader: (13) Garage List 2008 135i [5.00] 2008 Mini Cooper S [0.00]	thnx for the open communication, looking fwd to the tools __________________ /// AST Coilovers w Swift springs / Vorshlag camber plates / M3 suspension conversion/ VM adj. toe links / Maddad Whisper exhaust, BERK mids /P3 gauge/ Cobb AP Stage zwei + / AR catted DPs / HPF OCC / BMWP-SSK / AA BOV & CP/ Spearco FMIC / Breyton GTS-R Race + APEX ARC-8s / Wavetrac LSD/ BMWP Elec. Wheel V2

01-12-2013, 11:35 PM	#32
1&done Captain Drives: 2008 135i Montego Blue 6mt Join Date: Sep 2010 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 648 iTrader: (13) Garage List 2008 135i [5.00] 2008 Mini Cooper S [0.00]	Sorry for the delay, thanks for the quick shipping. These jack-stands are spot on. Should have bought these a long time ago. Highly recommend, worth the extra $ over stands that don't fit our cars. __________________ /// AST Coilovers w Swift springs / Vorshlag camber plates / M3 suspension conversion/ VM adj. toe links / Maddad Whisper exhaust, BERK mids /P3 gauge/ Cobb AP Stage zwei + / AR catted DPs / HPF OCC / BMWP-SSK / AA BOV & CP/ Spearco FMIC / Breyton GTS-R Race + APEX ARC-8s / Wavetrac LSD/ BMWP Elec. Wheel V2

08-30-2012, 08:23 AM	#23
RBB First Lieutenant Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: NOVA Posts: 318 iTrader: (10)	Just ordered a set of the jack stands with removable blocks. I've got some maintenance to do next weekend. Can't wait to give them a try and I'll be sure to post up my thoughts.

01-16-2013, 11:58 AM	#35
Incompatible Major Drives: 07 AW Z4C 3.0Si Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: San Diego Posts: 1,040 iTrader: (1)	These are a great product, they work well (#1 priority), don't damage the underside, and go well with the quality look of our cars as a side benefit. If you consider what we spend to mod our cars and equip our garages, these really aren't pricey. Nothing like having the right tool for the job. __________________ If you can't take the time to teach a kid something good, someone will take the time to teach them something bad.

01-17-2013, 10:50 AM	#36
ersin Brigadier General Drives: 08 IB E92 M3 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Maryland Posts: 3,571 iTrader: (1)	I got a set of these (they are sold, and should only be used, in pairs) and have used them to change wheels. What can I say? They work. And they are very well done, high quality. They are about twice as expensive as your common jack stands that you might buy at Walmart but are worth the price. Walmart stands won't work on BMWs and you can still pay more elsewhere for stands that are not as nice. Recommended. Cheers, Ersin __________________ I've been assimilated. 6MT/ZPP/18"/PS extended.

01-17-2013, 09:29 PM	#37
Fred@ReverseLogic BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: SL550 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 67 iTrader: (7)	Thank you... It's very gratifying to see all this positive feedback for such a simple modification to the Torin jack stands. I disassembled another pallet load of jack stands today. It's a little tedious to separate the inner and outer tubes. Unfortunately, this step is requred to fit the inner tube into the spindle of the lathe. __________________

01-23-2013, 04:22 PM	#38
Fred@ReverseLogic BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: SL550 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 67 iTrader: (7)	Increase in International Postage The rates for International Postage are increasing significantly on 27-Jan-2013. Unfortunately I will be raising the price for the jack stands shipped to any International destination beginning on Sunday. Fortunately, Domestic postal rates are not changing very much. __________________

01-28-2013, 07:39 AM	#39
mikew2069 Captain Drives: F30 335i MSport Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Houston Posts: 685 iTrader: (1)	Order placed and payment sent! Thanks for answering all of my questions and returning emails on a Sunday. Great communication! __________________ 2013 F30 335i ///M-Sport *Forgestar/Challenge/BMS JB4*

03-06-2013, 01:36 PM	#40
Fred@ReverseLogic BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: SL550 Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 67 iTrader: (7)	LTP Jack Stands I have a couple of less than perfect jack stands available for $90 including shipping. Typically these have more than the normal amount of scratches on the red outer tubes. They will also have blocks with minor imperfections like dust specs in the powder coating or nicks incurred during shipping and handling. Drop me a note if you are interested since I don't have the LTP pricing on the website. __________________

04-02-2013, 10:22 AM	#41
j2m Colonel Drives: '11 E92 M3 DCT Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Calgary, Ab Posts: 2,448 iTrader: (5) Garage List 2011 BMW E92 M3 [0.00]	Just ordered 4 of the jack stands __________________ 11' E92 M3 Space Grey \| DCT \| ESS VT2- 625 \| Gintani Race (valved) + Quad Res Catless X-Pipe \| KW Sleeve's \| GC Camber Plates\|Arkym Diffuser \| Vorsteiner VRS Lip \| P3 Boost Guage \| Stud Conversion PHOTO's: Click Here ESS VT2 625 PHOTOS: Click Here

04-03-2013, 05:18 PM	#42
Johndong888 John Drives: '12 AW/FR M3 Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Cherry Hill, NJ Posts: 634 iTrader: (8)	I had a few questions and Fred answered them precisely. Standup guy he is. Obviously I ordered one and they came the following day. Used them the past weekend when I was changing the oil myself. The blocks are really nice. More people need to get these. Now i just need to know what to do with my ugly craftsman one __________________ Current - 2012 AW/FR E92 M3 - DCT w EDC, ZPP w Tech, Apps, Enhanced Sound, SAT. Mods - Piano Black, Euro Visors, OEM Performance CF Spoiler + Grills + Pedals, IND Gloss Blk Pkg, Lux V3, Arkym CF Front Lip, 19" HRE P40 Sold - 2008 BSM/Black E92 335i - Step, Premium, Sports, Logic7, Comfort, Navi, SAT, Alum.

04-09-2013, 07:56 PM	#43
R0ME0 "Midas Touch" Drives: E86 ///M Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 123 iTrader: (0)	I already have the Torin Jack Stands. Anyway I can get just the risers with the jack adapter pieces built in? Let me know.

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