M3 stolen with OBD key cloning :( - Page 4

M3Denver · 10-17-2012, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ussoldierforhire

Oh that makes me sick to my stomach. Sorry bro. Thats why i'm installing the code alarm 2 way alarm next week and keep the .40cal handy.

I'm all with ya on the 40 cal these sum bag gypsies should be knee capped and left there

BMW_M3,2014 · 10-17-2012, 12:07 PM

Shit Sorry man

Dackelone · 10-17-2012, 12:12 PM

Sorry for your loss. That sucks.

Btw... for all the others, I was told by someone who does coding very well... that one can "lock" the CAS on the car to just the two key fobs, that way IF someone tries to "clone a key" it will not work. I suspect this is what BMW is doing in their new SW update for the UK market.

Dackel

ES_TRADER · 10-17-2012, 12:16 PM

does the dealer charge for this update? i dont think they should because bmw had a flaw in their programming..any details on a service bulletin?

bmellion · 10-17-2012, 12:17 PM

Don't get a C63! I sold my 2012 coupe after 1900 miles. Rattling and creaking piece of shit. Traded it in on a new 550i M Sport. Couldn't be happier!

Gugs · 10-17-2012, 12:25 PM

Well its good to know if you have a 335 with a JB4 it disables and takes over the obd port when in map so it hopefully will help avoid this also

BuraQ · 10-17-2012, 12:32 PM

MOFOS !

seventy5 · 10-17-2012, 12:39 PM

Sorry for your loss OP. I hope they get caught ASAP!

mdosu · 10-17-2012, 01:31 PM

seems to be happening quite often in Europe, BMW AG push out a fix!

red-sauerkraut · 10-17-2012, 01:44 PM

Yes sir!

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dackelone

...I was told by someone who does coding very well... that one can "lock" the CAS on the car to just the two key fobs, that way IF someone tries to "clone a key" it will not work...

E92K.C10 · 10-17-2012, 01:48 PM

Bunch of scum, hope they get caught soon. Sorry to hear your pride and joy was stolen but how comes he opened the door so quick?, he didn't even smash the window it looked as if the car wasn't locked.

Im Also from the UK

DASHOCKER · 10-17-2012, 01:52 PM

criminals..

sakimano · 10-17-2012, 01:53 PM

I don't get it. If they 'cloned' your key, why are the hoodied thieves pushing it home? Why not drive it home? Was that to avoid making noise?

Also, why did they come back an hour later after the first break in?

Finally, Geraldo Riviera approves of this video.

SixBanger · 10-17-2012, 01:55 PM

That van that went by, I hope they're able to ID it and locate who that is. On the other hand, I'm really sorry about your loss. I'd be furious.

Imola.ZHP · 10-17-2012, 02:07 PM

Seems like having a garage would help solve this problem...

E60orBust · 10-17-2012, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by spacemonkey1112

The only thing that saved his car from being taken away was his AutoLock...

That is what I was thinking. If the root cause of this is the blind spot in the alarm that allows someone to crack the window and jack in to the port, I would highly suggest in investing in one of these things if you are in the UK and haven't received the updated programming yet.

Alternatively, wire in a single pole, single throw switch to the power wire of the ODBII port. You only use that thing during diagnostics or if you have a p3 gauge. Wire in the switch and shut the power off making it impossible for them to just jack in while in the blind spot. Hell, wire up the switch to the other side of the cabin or right next to the motion sensor.

kardboard · 10-17-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Dackelone

Sorry for your loss. That sucks.

Btw... for all the others, I was told by someone who does coding very well... that one can "lock" the CAS on the car to just the two key fobs, that way IF someone tries to "clone a key" it will not work. I suspect this is what BMW is doing in their new SW update for the UK market.

Dackel

This is exactly what I was told when I bought my 2010 135i by my sales rep. He told me, if I remember correctly, that the two keys I received were the only two keys that would start the car. If I happened to lose both keys, they would have to replace the ECU (I assume) and would cost an arm and a leg.

Any truth to this? I bought my car new in January of 2010 from a BMW dealership.

Talk2meg00se · 10-17-2012, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by BuraQ

MOFOS !

llllooolllll

that's awesome

Imola.ZHP · 10-17-2012, 02:25 PM

PS: IMO, insurance companies should start suing BMW for reimbursement since there is a HUGE flaw in their system...

...and if an update is available that will cure this problem, then they shouldn't pay out a customer that hasn't taken the time to have their software updated...

Klaibergenics · 10-17-2012, 02:45 PM

What are the risks of his happening in the US?

Dackelone · 10-17-2012, 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sakimano

I don't get it. If they 'cloned' your key, why are the hoodied thieves pushing it home? Why not drive it home? Was that to avoid making noise?

Also, why did they come back an hour later after the first break in?

Finally, Geraldo Riviera approves of this video.

This stolen 1M thread(back in July) makes for an interesting read!

Video: My BMW 1M Coupe Stolen in 3 Min as Part of Recent UK BMW Theft Spree Using OBD
http://www.1addicts.com/forums/showthread.php?t=712717

And this is how key cloning is done. The thieves push the car down the road so the owner doesn't wake up and hear the car start up!

Dackelone · 10-17-2012, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kardboard

This is exactly what I was told when I bought my 2010 135i by my sales rep. He told me, if I remember correctly, that the two keys I received were the only two keys that would start the car. If I happened to lose both keys, they would have to replace the ECU (I assume) and would cost an arm and a leg.

Any truth to this? I bought my car new in January of 2010 from a BMW dealership.

Noop! The way I understand it... all BMW's can "learn" up to TEN key fobs from the factory. IF you loose a key fob... your dealer just add's another new key fob into the car's "directory".

What I was told is that the dealer or a knowledgeable "car coder" can "lock" the DME to just the current two key fobs. Then IF someone tries to clone a new key fob into the car's DME the car will not except the new fob - and the car can not be stolen that way.

As far as I know... BMW's SW update "patch" is ONLY for UK cars. I hope they roll it out to every bmw market though.

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BMW_M3,2014 Registered Drives: n/a Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: qwaqwa Posts: 3 iTrader: (0)	Shit Sorry man

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Gugs Cynical Drives: E92 JetBlack Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Long island Posts: 359 iTrader: (0)	Well its good to know if you have a 335 with a JB4 it disables and takes over the obd port when in map so it hopefully will help avoid this also

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seventy5 Private First Class Drives: E85 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 141 iTrader: (3)	Sorry for your loss OP. I hope they get caught ASAP!

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sakimano Private Drives: Audi RS4 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Toronto Posts: 64 iTrader: (0)	I don't get it. If they 'cloned' your key, why are the hoodied thieves pushing it home? Why not drive it home? Was that to avoid making noise? Also, why did they come back an hour later after the first break in? Finally, Geraldo Riviera approves of this video.

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SixBanger First Lieutenant Drives: 08 135i Join Date: Apr 2005 Posts: 355 iTrader: (0)	That van that went by, I hope they're able to ID it and locate who that is. On the other hand, I'm really sorry about your loss. I'd be furious.

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Klaibergenics New Member Drives: 2011 BMW M3 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Viriginia Posts: 12 iTrader: (0)	What are the risks of his happening in the US?

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