VIDEO: VF620 M3 vs modded '13 GTR Black Edition - Page 2

erm324 · 10-09-2012, 08:08 AM

According to a thread on NAGTROC this video is BS and the gtr was stock (there is no way you can run the claimed boost in the video on that octane without the motor knocking itself to death, and on top of it stillen doesnt even make downpipes lol).

Also, from my experience against GTR's I would agree - GTR's with those modifications can trap ~130+ in the 1/4, and I personally dont see a 6 speed off the shelf VF620 (no race gas, no meth, no DCT) pulling that hard on a car that traps that high - let alone be able to hand around from a 1st gear roll like you said. Looks more to me the M3 ran a stock 2012 Black Edition like many others have said on the other forums.

Nice run nonetheless!

flipm3 · 10-09-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by m33

Nice Job !

Especially considering your 6MT ....

Not to thread jack but here's a video of me running a FBO GTR with 1000cc injectors and E85 fuel that put down roughly 625-650whp as per owner
[u2b]http://youtu.be/0TOXQ6v5m5o[/u2b]
[u2b]http://youtu.be/0TOXQ6v5m5o[/u2b]

Top end power of the ESS VT2-650 is nuts....purely nuts....

kotik · 10-09-2012, 08:49 AM

My buddy has a 09 GTR with full bolt on's and stock turbo's (I think the only thing he needs is turbo's to be Alpha 7)... He is around 550whp and a tad more torque, and he walks me

any speed... We even tried doing 140-200mph runs, he just eats me no matter what

((( is something wrong with my car???

erm324 · 10-09-2012, 09:00 AM

nothing is wrong with your car, this video is just misleading and innacurate... the GTR should pull on that M3 or at least put up a damn good fight with those supporting mods, which is why I as well as many others are assuming its stock.

If you have DCT, an 8psi+ supercharger kit, and meth/racegas then I can see the M3 running with cars such as that, but a 6 psi 6speed M3 like the one in this video is not going to cut it

m33 · 10-09-2012, 09:48 AM

I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to come
In here hating when in reality I would be talking the truth but people don't like the truth....
So.... Great runs

Team Plutonium · 10-09-2012, 09:51 AM

Agreed... the GT-R is stock no doubt.

kiloil · 10-09-2012, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to come
In here hating when in reality I would be talking the truth but people don't like the truth....
So.... Great runs

Same here.

Optherion · 10-09-2012, 11:26 AM

Im sure the M3 is fast but not to stir the pot, there no way the GT-R running 20 PSI or those mods. Something is a miss in the GT-R's mod list. Its a stock gt-r.

1. Stillen doesn't even make down pipes for the GT-R.

2. 20 PSI would not even be possible without upgrading the intake size from 2.75 to 3.0 inch because the MAF would be maxed out.

3. 20 PSI and no fuel injectors? Not possible either.

If a GT-R actually had these mods, he would be lucky if it lasts 50 miles lol.

Wish we could tell the speed though.

VF-Engineering · 10-09-2012, 11:47 AM

threads aren't the only thing getting jacked in here. Scabby knees all over the place LOL

Nice run, Joe!! I didn't realize you were 6MT!!

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

Nice Job !

Especially considering your 6MT ....

Longboarder · 10-09-2012, 12:00 PM

Absent the GT-R owner verifying mods, there's another way to find out.

Joe will be at the Shift-S3ctor event, and there are plenty of GT-R's signed up, including a few 2013's....some stock and some modded.

m33 · 10-09-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by VF-Engineering

threads aren't the only thing getting jacked in here. Scabby knees all over the place LOL

Nice run, Joe!! I didn't realize you were 6MT!!

Owning two 6mt's I know what it takes to optimize your setup against GTR's

joe@trinityautosport · 10-09-2012, 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DouglaCorbi

Are you going to the Shift-S3ctor Airstrip event?

Yes sir!

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Originally Posted by CarbonFoot

Loving it. Too bad 91 is all we can get our hands on out here in CA. Never thought I'd be paying over 5 bucks a gallon for it either.

Thanks! I hear ya!

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Originally Posted by NFAM3

Nice job. I ran two GTR's on Friday night and I didn't fair as well as you. Both were on E85 and tunes. I'm not sure what else they had. But they got me. I have a ESS 625 powered e92. Nice guys though. They did mention my friend and I were the quickest M3's they had encountered to date. Like I mentioned though, nice guys!!

Do you know what mods they had?

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Originally Posted by Andrew@ActiveAutowerke

You pulled that gtr more than I expected ! Stay safe

I sure will.

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

Nice Job !

Especially considering your 6MT ....

Not to thread jack but here's a video of me running a FBO GTR with 1000cc injectors and E85 fuel that put down roughly 625-650whp as per owner
[u2b]http://youtu.be/0TOXQ6v5m5o[/u2b]
[u2b]http://youtu.be/0TOXQ6v5m5o[/u2b]

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Originally Posted by img

Links don't work

Thanks! Yea he was surprised that it was 6 spd

joe@trinityautosport · 10-09-2012, 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erm324

According to a thread on NAGTROC this video is BS and the gtr was stock (there is no way you can run the claimed boost in the video on that octane without the motor knocking itself to death, and on top of it stillen doesnt even make downpipes lol).

Also, from my experience against GTR's I would agree - GTR's with those modifications can trap ~130+ in the 1/4, and I personally dont see a 6 speed off the shelf VF620 (no race gas, no meth, no DCT) pulling that hard on a car that traps that high - let alone be able to hand around from a 1st gear roll like you said. Looks more to me the M3 ran a stock 2012 Black Edition like many others have said on the other forums.

Nice run nonetheless!

I know for a fact that the gtr wasn't stock. I met him through a friend of mine. BUT I was ONLY going off of what HE was telling me.

As for 1st gear...he was in 1st gear for a split second and he would get me then I would pull on it.

Quote:

Originally Posted by erm324

nothing is wrong with your car, this video is just misleading and innacurate... the GTR should pull on that M3 or at least put up a damn good fight with those supporting mods, which is why I as well as many others are assuming its stock.

If you have DCT, an 8psi+ supercharger kit, and meth/racegas then I can see the M3 running with cars such as that, but a 6 psi 6speed M3 like the one in this video is not going to cut it

Again...I was going off of what HE told me. He actually told me he had 605whp, but obviously I didn't believe him because he would of killed me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to come
In here hating when in reality I would be talking the truth but people don't like the truth....
So.... Great runs

Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Team Plutonium

Agreed... the GT-R is stock no doubt.

GTR was not stock.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Optherion

Im sure the M3 is fast but not to stir the pot, there no way the GT-R running 20 PSI or those mods. Something is a miss in the GT-R's mod list. Its a stock gt-r.

1. Stillen doesn't even make down pipes for the GT-R.

2. 20 PSI would not even be possible without upgrading the intake size from 2.75 to 3.0 inch because the MAF would be maxed out.

3. 20 PSI and no fuel injectors? Not possible either.

If a GT-R actually had these mods, he would be lucky if it lasts 50 miles lol.

Wish we could tell the speed though.

Again. Going off of what he told me.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Absent the GT-R owner verifying mods, there's another way to find out.

Joe will be at the Shift-S3ctor event, and there are plenty of GT-R's signed up, including a few 2013's....some stock and some modded.

Yes I am signed up for saturday.

joe@trinityautosport · 10-09-2012, 12:34 PM

I will be running another 2013 GTR tonight running E85 with a CUSTOM tune and every bolt on possible. I'll post that video. He is pushing 600+ with the E85 tune. I'm going to get beat

m33 · 10-09-2012, 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe@trinityautosport

I will be running another 2013 GTR tonight running E85 with a CUSTOM tune and every bolt on possible. I'll post that video. He is pushing 600+ with the E85 tune. I'm going to get beat

That's the same exact setup I raced and I netted a 3-4 car lead .
Mind you I ran two different GTR's with FBO and e85 with fuel pumps and 1000cc injectors and the results were the same more or less .
Only difference was that the Gtr from Georgia known as Hitman on getroc was running high boost 22-24psi with BOV he held in a lot stronger...

Good luck ! Tip: start at 50mph in second

keep your revs up!

joe@trinityautosport · 10-09-2012, 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m33

That's the same exact setup I raced and I netted a 3-4 car lead .
Mind you I ran two different GTR's with FBO and e85 with fuel pumps and 1000cc injectors and the results were the same more or less .
Only difference was that the Gtr from Georgia known as Hitman on getroc was running high boost 22-24psi with BOV he held in a lot stronger...

Good luck ! Tip: start at 50mph in second

keep your revs up!

Thanks for the tip

erm324 · 10-09-2012, 01:02 PM

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....lt-on-e85-gtr/

My car against 630awhp gtr full bolt ons e85. I was in race trim and only had him by 1 car...they are very strong. Start from a 50roll nothing lower or there's no catching them.

alpine335i · 10-09-2012, 01:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erm324

http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....lt-on-e85-gtr/

My car against 630awhp gtr full bolt ons e85. I was in race trim and only had him by 1 car...they are very strong. Start from a 50roll nothing lower or there's no catching them.

Rick you kill me lol. Always calling BS. Love it. Got the car back yet?

erm324 · 10-09-2012, 01:23 PM

Lol you know I have to, its ridiculous some of the things that are said/posted. Its good I'm beating the living shit out of it, I sold the blower and mostly all of engine mods I'm moving onto something new soon. Hows your car? Still got that xpipe here for you haha

alpine335i · 10-09-2012, 01:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by erm324

Lol you know I have to, its ridiculous some of the things that are said/posted. Its good I'm beating the living shit out of it, I sold the blower and mostly all of engine mods I'm moving onto something new soon. Hows your car? Still got that xpipe here for you haha

Cars good, going in storage for winter, time to focus on my e30 and e36 M. I will text you and let you know about the xpipe. C63 next?

erm324 · 10-09-2012, 01:31 PM

Awesome! My brother actually just picked up a c63black series it should be here in two weeks, I feel like I'm going to fall in love with it. Probably some american muscle for me

Team Plutonium · 10-09-2012, 01:56 PM

What mods did the GT-R have?

10-09-2012, 08:08 AM	#23
erm324 Major Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 1,052 iTrader: (1)	According to a thread on NAGTROC this video is BS and the gtr was stock (there is no way you can run the claimed boost in the video on that octane without the motor knocking itself to death, and on top of it stillen doesnt even make downpipes lol). Also, from my experience against GTR's I would agree - GTR's with those modifications can trap ~130+ in the 1/4, and I personally dont see a 6 speed off the shelf VF620 (no race gas, no meth, no DCT) pulling that hard on a car that traps that high - let alone be able to hand around from a 1st gear roll like you said. Looks more to me the M3 ran a stock 2012 Black Edition like many others have said on the other forums. Nice run nonetheless! Last edited by erm324; 10-09-2012 at 08:16 AM.

10-09-2012, 09:51 AM	#28
Team Plutonium Major General Drives: 911 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate Posts: 8,806 iTrader: (1)	Agreed... the GT-R is stock no doubt. __________________ Gone... ESS VT2-625 \| ESS Tune \| M24 Oil Cooler \| Brembo 380mm BBK \| Dinan 4.10 Diff \| KW Variant 3 Coilovers \| Dinan Camber Plates \| Dinan Strut Tower Braces \| Dinan X-Pipe \| Akrapovic Exhaust \| Vorsteiner GTS3 Bumper \| Varis System One Diffuser \| OEM Performance Spoiler \| Stack Gauges \| GTS Door Sills \| Volk TE37 \| Falken Azenis RT615K 275/315 \| Pulled Fenders \| Turner Stud Kit \| OMP ARS Racing Seats New: 991C2S

10-09-2012, 11:26 AM	#30
Optherion Lieutenant Drives: Prancing Horse Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SoCal & Vegas Posts: 465 iTrader: (0)	Im sure the M3 is fast but not to stir the pot, there no way the GT-R running 20 PSI or those mods. Something is a miss in the GT-R's mod list. Its a stock gt-r. 1. Stillen doesn't even make down pipes for the GT-R. 2. 20 PSI would not even be possible without upgrading the intake size from 2.75 to 3.0 inch because the MAF would be maxed out. 3. 20 PSI and no fuel injectors? Not possible either. If a GT-R actually had these mods, he would be lucky if it lasts 50 miles lol. Wish we could tell the speed though. __________________ Current Stable: Some Audi with a V10, Couple of BMW's, one F Car, and one P car. One lonely GT-R with all the Euros. Last edited by Optherion; 10-09-2012 at 11:51 AM.

10-09-2012, 12:00 PM	#32
Longboarder Colonel Drives: 2013 e92 M3 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: Kailua/Monarch Beach Posts: 2,055 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2013 e92 M3 [5.00] 2010 335i [2.17] 1998 M Roadster [0.00]	Absent the GT-R owner verifying mods, there's another way to find out. Joe will be at the Shift-S3ctor event, and there are plenty of GT-R's signed up, including a few 2013's....some stock and some modded. __________________ Track/Airstrip: 2013 e92 M3 MW FR DCT ZCP / ESS VT2 S/C, MRF mid/Akra slip, StopTech BBK (583 RWHP STD @ 8,600 RPM) Beater: 2013 STi Sedan / Cobb Stg 2 / WRX wing lol

10-09-2012, 01:56 PM	#44
Team Plutonium Major General Drives: 911 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Upstate Posts: 8,806 iTrader: (1)	What mods did the GT-R have? __________________ Gone... ESS VT2-625 \| ESS Tune \| M24 Oil Cooler \| Brembo 380mm BBK \| Dinan 4.10 Diff \| KW Variant 3 Coilovers \| Dinan Camber Plates \| Dinan Strut Tower Braces \| Dinan X-Pipe \| Akrapovic Exhaust \| Vorsteiner GTS3 Bumper \| Varis System One Diffuser \| OEM Performance Spoiler \| Stack Gauges \| GTS Door Sills \| Volk TE37 \| Falken Azenis RT615K 275/315 \| Pulled Fenders \| Turner Stud Kit \| OMP ARS Racing Seats New: 991C2S

10-09-2012, 08:49 AM	#25
kotik Lieutenant Drives: e90 M3 ESS 575 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Germany Posts: 478 iTrader: (0)	My buddy has a 09 GTR with full bolt on's and stock turbo's (I think the only thing he needs is turbo's to be Alpha 7)... He is around 550whp and a tad more torque, and he walks me any speed... We even tried doing 140-200mph runs, he just eats me no matter what ((( is something wrong with my car???

10-09-2012, 09:00 AM	#26
erm324 Major Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 1,052 iTrader: (1)	nothing is wrong with your car, this video is just misleading and innacurate... the GTR should pull on that M3 or at least put up a damn good fight with those supporting mods, which is why I as well as many others are assuming its stock. If you have DCT, an 8psi+ supercharger kit, and meth/racegas then I can see the M3 running with cars such as that, but a 6 psi 6speed M3 like the one in this video is not going to cut it

10-09-2012, 09:48 AM	#27
m33 Banned Drives: E92 VT650 MCB Individual Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: CT Posts: 2,676 iTrader: (5)	I was thinking the same thing but didn't want to come In here hating when in reality I would be talking the truth but people don't like the truth.... So.... Great runs

10-09-2012, 12:34 PM	#36
joe@trinityautosport BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Tustin CA Posts: 398 iTrader: (7)	I will be running another 2013 GTR tonight running E85 with a CUSTOM tune and every bolt on possible. I'll post that video. He is pushing 600+ with the E85 tune. I'm going to get beat

10-09-2012, 01:02 PM	#39
erm324 Major Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 1,052 iTrader: (1)	http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....lt-on-e85-gtr/ My car against 630awhp gtr full bolt ons e85. I was in race trim and only had him by 1 car...they are very strong. Start from a 50roll nothing lower or there's no catching them.

10-09-2012, 01:23 PM	#41
erm324 Major Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 1,052 iTrader: (1)	Lol you know I have to, its ridiculous some of the things that are said/posted. Its good I'm beating the living shit out of it, I sold the blower and mostly all of engine mods I'm moving onto something new soon. Hows your car? Still got that xpipe here for you haha

10-09-2012, 01:31 PM	#43
erm324 Major Drives: M3 Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 1,052 iTrader: (1)	Awesome! My brother actually just picked up a c63black series it should be here in two weeks, I feel like I'm going to fall in love with it. Probably some american muscle for me

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