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| 10-07-2012, 11:45 PM | #1 |
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BIMMERPOST NEWSBMW Takes Part In Field Testing of Car-to-X Communication Technology A year ago, BMW announced its involvement in the development of "Car-to-x" communications technology which will allow future allow drivers to "see" long distances ahead, into areas currently hidden from view, and even around not just one but many corners. Car-to-x communication entails electronic networking of vehicles and roadside infrastructure, with the aim of exchanging information directly both between road users and between road users and roadside infrastructure (such as traffic lights, traffic signs, bridges, tolls and even dangerous roads). Car-to-x communication is a comprehensive communication network which any road user can take part in. It would operate via WLAN or mobile phone connections. Following four years of R&D work, the field operational tests have now begun. 20 BMW cars and 5 BMW motorcycles are taking part in the 120 test vehicle fleet. The remaining cars hail from the other automakers which together with BMW make up the consortium of automakers who have been developing this technology for over a decade. The consortium wants to create a brand agnostic system in the end. The system itself does present some interesting real world use examples. For instance, the system could have important use for motorcycles, which would constantly transmit their location to surrounding cars, and so would warn the driver of a car who is about to potentially sideswipe the motorcycle. Another case scenario involves a disabled vehicle around a blind end which could warn incoming high speed traffic to slow down. BMW also cites use for efficiency-- imaging traffic lights warning you a few seconds before they turn green so you could get ready to go. Or cars stuck in traffic warning cars down the road that their is traffic, providing them an opportunity to bypass the traffic jam. See some examples of uses below: PRESS RELEASE
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| 10-08-2012, 07:56 AM | #3 |
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| 10-08-2012, 08:08 AM | #4 |
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I've seen people drive for hours with their turn signal on while driving the interstate. I have zero faith that an icon is going to get anyone's attention. The entire concept suffers from a basic UX flaw that computer programmers have known for a long time. When a user sees the same thing over and over, they begin to ignore it. Ever have one of those "Ok/Cancel" dialog boxes pop up on your computer and you immediately look for a way to dismiss it, without paying any attention to the contents? Users will do the same thing with this system.
The trouble with accident avoidance systems is that they need to kick in *only* when there is an impending accident. That is a very difficult problem. Also, the timing is absurdly difficult. Many of us already have accident avoidance systems. They're commonly obtained under the trade name: "wife". The problem with them is that they're always going off when you don't need them, so you really just wish they'd be quiet. If you could find a way to disable them, you would. I don't see how an electronic "wife" would be any better received.
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| 10-08-2012, 08:31 AM | #5 | |
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| 10-08-2012, 08:33 AM | #6 |
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Interesting technology, but what reduces my enthusiasm is the tendency for regulatory bodies to make this kind of thing mandatory. So far we have seen this with tire pressure monitors and rear view cameras. In the US consideration is being given to making crash data recorders mandatory, not presently installed by BMW. Authorities are also looking at crash avoidance systems which have show up in a few makes of vehicles.
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| 10-08-2012, 08:52 AM | #7 | |
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| 10-08-2012, 09:17 AM | #9 | |
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![]() Well, even with all this technology, accidents will still happen. Because most accidents occur when people aren't paying attention to their driving ( other cars, displays on dash boards, raod signs etc). They're busy texting, falling asleep, under influence or just plain not right in the head. Also, some innocent drivers get into accidents by fault not of their own (but thats not the topic). However, technology like this will help improve awareness. And it's gonna be a good marketing/selling feature. I can already imagine the option on the Car configurator: [] Car to X Communication Technology BMW Professional ($2,400) ![]()
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| 10-08-2012, 10:25 AM | #11 |
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First, it will be an interesting ("exciting") option.
Then, it will be a discounted, but "highly recommended" option. Then, there will be a multitude of anecdotal media reports about how it could have prevented X, Y, Z, and it's such a shame the victims couldn't have been spared. We should all really get it, you know. Lastly, it will become mandatory, but only after manufacturers make a sh!t-ton of cash charging for the "option" in the year or two before it happens. Once again, logic and training will be trumped by the culture of fear and litigation. Oh, and the guys that serve to make tons off of another "compulsory" safety feature. Meh. Great idea, but enough is enough. BMWs used to be for driving, not riding.
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| 10-08-2012, 11:08 AM | #12 |
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While I applaud the effort, this is completely unnecessary. If we want less accidents, we need to be more strict about who we allow to obtain/retain drivers licenses. People do not learn how to drive properly anymore, let alone general courtesies of the road.
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| 10-08-2012, 11:39 AM | #13 |
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might assist, ..if ignored no worse off.... but if heeded, could help
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| 10-08-2012, 12:03 PM | #14 |
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COULD help save some riders' lives... but I will still remind myself to ride like I am invisible (not invincible).
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| 10-08-2012, 01:42 PM | #15 |
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I pride myself on being an attentive driver, and I still have close calls...
I don't see how this could hurt, I just hope it doesn't become too intrusive...
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| 10-08-2012, 03:57 PM | #16 |
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BMW needs to learn how to move an email from an iPhone to an idrive screen before they start screwing around with stuff like this. Seriously.
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BMW yesterday release a new Bluetooth update UPD01005.bin, still only for IOS 5 thou.Also, imagine driving alone and up on your HUD is an upside down car flashing in red at you, and all you can see is a clear road ahead, what do you think will be your reaction............ hit the brakes and the car behind you does not know why this idiot in front of him is hitting the brakes and then runs up your a**e. Around the bend 1/2 a mile up the road there's a car pulled over changing his tyre with those red X's out warning drives which your electronic system has mis-advised the meaning of.
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| 10-09-2012, 10:30 PM | #19 | |
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i was gonna point out that the article still has a their/there/they're mixup, but this is way better.
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