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      10-07-2012, 07:16 AM   #1
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08 DCT, mileage 50k miles. Accident free, all stock parts

Brought the car one year ago from the previous guy who was the first owner. Knew for a fact then he track the car approx 10+ times previously.

Now I just hopped out of my mate's '11 car with half the mileage and never been tracked. His the car feels so firm and tight compared to mine. My car feels like a old used whore that I cant extract any wonderful feelings out of , steering feels vague, loud groaning noise in the cabin under sprited driving and suspension feels off. His car on the other hand had such great response to any steering input,and feels tight and well... Reminds me of 20+ yr old ladies.

Short of doing an alightment, making sure all the screws are re-torqued to specs, is there anything I can do to make the car feels tighter?
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      10-07-2012, 07:33 AM   #2
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Replace old and worn suspension parts with new ones
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      10-07-2012, 07:38 AM   #3
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suspension bushings, ball joints, engine mounts, transmission mounts. how much will it cost?
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      10-07-2012, 08:40 AM   #4
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Before you go crazy replacing this and that with regard to suspension and mounts, consider the obvious variables that may be contributing to the difference.

When I went from worn Contis to an RS-3 square setup (on my '08) it felt like Adrian Newey re-engineered the suspension and balance.

Everything that you describe save the groaning noise in the cabin (?) could be attributed to tires.
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      10-07-2012, 10:34 AM   #5
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Your car needs a new "Pussy~Suspension" Sorry I saw the James Bond "From Russia with Love" movie last night and I think Goldfingers "Pussy~Galore" is still on my mind

Mind you she is much older now too ... anyway in the movie she looked okay

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      10-07-2012, 12:15 PM   #6
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By 50k miles, shocks and bushings are starting to wear. Probably nothing significant, but a new set of shocks and a couple strategically selected bushings willl probably go a long way. Tires can certainly also make a differance.
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      10-07-2012, 05:16 PM   #7
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      10-07-2012, 07:32 PM   #8
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I have 40k on my car and have recently changed the subframe bushings, the control arm ball joints, had the dinan monoball kit installed along with RD sport sways front and rear and shit is TIGHT
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+1 to the tires likely being part of it.
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Your car needs a new "Pussy~Suspension" Sorry I saw the James Bond "From Russia with Love" movie last night and I think Goldfingers "Pussy~Galore" is still on my mind

Mind you she is much older now too ... anyway in the movie she looked okay
LOL..

Pussy Galore: "My name is Pussy.. Pussy Galore"
James Bond "I must be dreaming"

Classic 60s sexual innuendo..love it
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      10-07-2012, 10:24 PM   #11
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Does your friend's M3 have the competition pack? If so, it will also be another reason why it feels "tighter" than a regular M3 due to the wider wheels, wider overall track width and being 10mm lower in ride height. Also, over the production life cycle of the M3, M have made tweaks to the steering as well. But a refreshed suspension and full geometry will certainly improve things quite a bit.
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Replace old and worn suspension parts with new ones
Yeah, for on street use you are probably lucky to get more than 60-70k miles on the struts before you notice a difference. A car that has been tracked will probably be showing some strut wear at 50k miles.
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Before you go crazy replacing this and that with regard to suspension and mounts, consider the obvious variables that may be contributing to the difference.

When I went from worn Contis to an RS-3 square setup (on my '08) it felt like Adrian Newey re-engineered the suspension and balance.

Everything that you describe save the groaning noise in the cabin (?) could be attributed to tires.
Changing from Contis to driving on the bare wheels should actually be an improvement.
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      10-08-2012, 07:00 PM   #14
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Changing from Contis to driving on the bare wheels should actually be an improvement.
Ha! Nearly.
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Nothing (legal) can really ever quite substitute for that first GF in HS

Fortunately you can always buy a new car if you have the money
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Tires can certainly also make a differance.
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      10-09-2012, 09:26 AM   #17
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Thanks guys for the response and ideas how to get tight back.
Tires are new Michelin PSS. Thinking of getting KW CS, pardon me but does the struts gets replaced too if I get the coil over set?

Subframe bushings, control arm joints, was there a reason you changed those?

I was told updating the software will give better steering feel too
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