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      10-05-2012, 07:43 AM   #23
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I would remove it if it was offered, it shakes the house in the morning. Luckily the new software significantly shortens the cold start process. Saves me the trouble of getting a tune.
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      10-05-2012, 07:49 AM   #24
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I loved cold starts on my z06 ... cant speak on the M yet cause I havent gotten it yet .
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      10-05-2012, 08:47 AM   #25
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does this make 90% of M3poster weiners? i though the number would be lower.
Its usually the married m3 owners They also come back to get hfc's installed as well.
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      10-05-2012, 09:43 AM   #26
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Well, you got me there. I'm married and have hfc's. Haven't went full catless yet but we will see.
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      10-05-2012, 11:43 AM   #27
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I kept it for the sound. You should be fine where you live, OP. My wife doesn't exactly appreciate it. It's very loud inside the garage and she says it gives her a headache. She won't come out and get in the car now until the cold start sequence is over
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      10-05-2012, 11:55 AM   #28
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My car still rumbles the house in the morning with it removed, screen door rattles, pictures/dishes shake, etc. Theres still plenty of grunt on startup. I mainly did it to lower the amount of car alarms I set off.

I don't want to turn this into an exhaust thread, but this car reallly sounds better without cats. I have hfcs and straight pipes for my xpipe, there is so much more deep bass and volume without cats (paired with an agressive rear exhaust). It just doesn't sound loud, it sounds good. The sound is night and day imo. My hfcs have almost a tinny sound in comparison, especially on startup, and I loved that setup when it was on my car. Cold start for me makes the car feel more artifical than it needs to be and actually annoyed me.
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absolutley worth it why? i live in a large lot community where everyone is on at least 1 acre. mine is 1.1 acres. the car parks in the bay at the red x. just how far is the noise going to travel that it is an issue? i understand condos, apartments, zero lot line homes and everyone that lives on top of each other where houses are all shoehorned onto little lots, but we are spread out, and my garages all surround a small courtyard. the sound in the video above sounds badass. bmw installed cold start for a reason. if you are not going to bother your neighbors, why is it "absolutely worth it"?
Do you currently have cold start with aftermarket full exhaust? If not, go for it and report back. I love the sound of my exhaust but the cold start was not something to get excited about. It has a low, annoying resonance that echo's off of walls. Other exhaust systems may sound better at cold start. It's a cool sound with OEM exhaust and probably a slip-on exhaust but it's a different story once you go to full exhaust.
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Do you currently have cold start with aftermarket full exhaust? If not, go for it and report back. I love the sound of my exhaust but the cold start was not something to get excited about. It has a low, annoying resonance that echo's off of walls. Other exhaust systems may sound better at cold start. It's a cool sound with OEM exhaust and probably a slip-on exhaust but it's a different story once you go to full exhaust.

I had an RPI x pipe with gintani race exhaust (no cats) and it sounded incredible. Really sounded like a nascar cold and full throttle onramps the car sounded unreal. But I went back to the stock x pipe and a Supersprint rear section for a little change in pace.
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      10-05-2012, 12:13 PM   #31
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You guys made me add the cold start to my car. All it took was a phone call to AA and a email with the file. Got a response right away with my tune cold start added. Today when I get home I will uploaded.
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I would remove it if it was offered, it shakes the house in the morning. Luckily the new software significantly shortens the cold start process. Saves me the trouble of getting a tune.
Crap! My car is being updated today. I love the cold start sound, it's better that a cup of coffee first thing in the morning.
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      10-05-2012, 02:45 PM   #33
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In the garage, I could feel the cold start with the GT2 & stock mid pipe in my teeth....I opted for clod start delete after I put on the HFC's.
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      10-05-2012, 06:01 PM   #34
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Do you currently have cold start with aftermarket full exhaust? If not, go for it and report back. I love the sound of my exhaust but the cold start was not something to get excited about. It has a low, annoying resonance that echo's off of walls. Other exhaust systems may sound better at cold start. It's a cool sound with OEM exhaust and probably a slip-on exhaust but it's a different story once you go to full exhaust.
planning on full akra evo shortly. was planning to keep cold start.
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absolutley worth it why? i live in a large lot community where everyone is on at least 1 acre. mine is 1.1 acres. the car parks in the bay at the red x. just how far is the noise going to travel that it is an issue? i understand condos, apartments, zero lot line homes and everyone that lives on top of each other where houses are all shoehorned onto little lots, but we are spread out, and my garages all surround a small courtyard. the sound in the video above sounds badass. bmw installed cold start for a reason. if you are not going to bother your neighbors, why is it "absolutely worth it"?
I looked up home prices in your area out of curiosity since you openly put up your addess and I am in shock at the pricing in your area. Similar homes in my area are about 4 times as expensive and usually homes that small never come with large lot sizes like your area.

Has this always been the regular pricing in the area or did the area get hit by depreciation because of the recession and just never end up recovering? It doesn't seem like a city in the middle of nowhere so the pricing really boggles my mind.
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Its def worth it. It starts up so much smoother and quieter. Its really a convenience if your catless.
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Its usually the married m3 owners They also come back to get hfc's installed as well.
Haha!

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      10-06-2012, 07:15 AM   #38
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I looked up home prices in your area out of curiosity since you openly put up your addess and I am in shock at the pricing in your area. Similar homes in my area are about 4 times as expensive and usually homes that small never come with large lot sizes like your area.

Has this always been the regular pricing in the area or did the area get hit by depreciation because of the recession and just never end up recovering? It doesn't seem like a city in the middle of nowhere so the pricing really boggles my mind.
neighbor is 8000 ft^2. a few houses up are a 7800, 9500 and 7500 ft^2. how big do you need for an acre? i just wanted garages.
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Crap! My car is being updated today. I love the cold start sound, it's better that a cup of coffee first thing in the morning.
Well freaking monkey balls! My cold start is all but gone with the new software
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Why anyone would remove cold start?!

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bmw installed cold start for a reason.
Cold start is there to warm the catalytic converters so that they can reach their operating temperature more quickly, where they are the most efficient. If you get rid of your cats, for example with an Evo Akra system, cold start is useless.
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you can get almost as much performance with a high flow cat than catless, keep the cats, and save your lungs.. .catless stinks (literally)
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Cold start is there to warm the catalytic converters so that they can reach their operating temperature more quickly, where they are the most efficient. If you get rid of your cats, for example with an Evo Akra system, cold start is useless.
The Evo system comes with HFCs..
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I looked up home prices in your area out of curiosity since you openly put up your addess and I am in shock at the pricing in your area. Similar homes in my area are about 4 times as expensive and usually homes that small never come with large lot sizes like your area.

Has this always been the regular pricing in the area or did the area get hit by depreciation because of the recession and just never end up recovering? It doesn't seem like a city in the middle of nowhere so the pricing really boggles my mind.
he lives in texas... houses/land in texas are hella cheap
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