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      09-30-2012, 04:15 PM   #23
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oh, you will be fine with wintersport 3d's. or maybe none at all if its at the end of feb.
I ordered it sept 18th. So realistically the car should be here by nov 18 the latest. but I do not know the status of the order right now. I need to follow up with them again this week .

my commute is changing and I have to drive now like 100 miles a day.

so I figure if I get the blizzaks I will be good in case I get caught in some bad weather

but I will try to work remotely if it does have inclement forecasts
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      09-30-2012, 04:23 PM   #24
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I ordered it sept 18th. So realistically the car should be here by nov 18 the latest. but I do not know the status of the order right now. I need to follow up with them again this week .

my commute is changing and I have to drive now like 100 miles a day.

so I figure if I get the blizzaks I will be good in case I get caught in some bad weather

but I will try to work remotely if it does have inclement forecasts
lm60 and winter sports are comparable tire, the ws60 is a different beast so keep that in mind when shopping blizzak.
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      09-30-2012, 04:33 PM   #25
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lm60 and winter sports are comparable tire, the ws60 is a different beast so keep that in mind when shopping blizzak.
whats your opinion though between the lm and wintersports versus the ws70.

Im just unsure what to go with.

I live in NJ so winters can be mild or bad

Most of my ride will be major highway
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      09-30-2012, 04:39 PM   #26
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also are there other sizes to run besides 235/40/18 and 245/40/18 ? on a 18x8 rim square setup with et20
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whats your opinion though between the lm and wintersports versus the ws70.

Im just unsure what to go with.

I live in NJ so winters can be mild or bad

Most of my ride will be major highway
i have owned ws60, not sure on the ws70's or lm60. what i can tell you about the ws60's was that they were good in the deep, wet, slushy, and all the nasty winter gives you. in the dry and during spirited driving they were very lacking and felt like marshmallows. i can say the opposite of the winter sport 3d's. great in packed snow, light snow, slush, dry, rain, and feel very responsive during spirited driving. i can say that you may have to wait for the plow to do your development in the deep stuff. i had no issues with winter sports but wouldn't mind a spare set of ws60's for the real nasty stuff. ultimately you will have to trade off dry performance for snow/ice performance.

keep in mind two years ago south east mass and ri were hammered with snow and i managed just fine with the winter sport 3d's. i dont have any steep grade hills to manage and my town doesn't use road salt as its an agricultural town with well water. from the sounds of it you are an experienced winter driver so you may lean toward the lm60 and winter sports vs the dedicated snow ability of the ws60.
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      09-30-2012, 04:51 PM   #28
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also are there other sizes to run besides 235/40/18 and 245/40/18 ? on a 18x8 rim square setup with et20
cant help you with that one but i run the 235/40/18's
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      09-30-2012, 05:01 PM   #29
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^thanks... I may do the wintersports i will wait and c what other input i get and also wait a little till the car is almost completely finished
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I am torn on what tire to order...

I read/heard great things about blizzaks from many car circles.

also hearing good things about performance winter tires as they call them

I will b commuting 100 miles round trip on the Garden state parkway, route 78 , and 24.

but generally my development doesnt always get plowed so i also have to consider making it to a main road first.
Winter tires make an enormous difference. I delayed putting snow tires on one season 10 years ago and tried to make it home from work during a snowstorm driving my 330Ci with Potenza Pole Positions on it. Didn't work so well. I got about two blocks from work, then couldn't move. I could only get a tiny bit of traction going in reverse, so I backed the car into a shopping center parking lot and left it there for the weekend.

I've tried a few brands so far:

Dunlop Winter Sports on the 330Ci and my former 545i--good snow and ice traction, and decent dry weather handling

Pirelli SottoZero 240s on my former E60 M5--good wintertime dry weather performance, but only so-so on snow and ice; better than all-seasons, but definitely not as confidence-inspiring as the Dunlops or Blizzaks

Pirelli Scorpion Snow and Ice on our Acura MDX--very good snow and ice traction, but lots of tread squirm and vagueness on the road when conditions dry (probably similar to the Blizzak WS series)

Bridgestone Blizzak LM60s on my current M3--great fit for the personality of the car; very good dry road performance, and also very good in the snow and ice

It sounds like you would do fine with a performance winter tire like the Blizzak LM60. The major highways and roads around here tend to get plowed pretty early, and it sounds like if it's a real disaster out there, you would be able to stay home anyway. If you believe the Farmers' Almanac, this year there will be pretty substantial snow accumulations. In any case, with dedicated winter tires, you'll be driving right around the yahoos in their "invincible" SUVs on all-seasons as they slide off the road...
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okay so were down to LM-60 and winter sports lol decisions decisions !
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Last winter was very mild, but the Dunlops proved to be excellent on the few days of inclement weather in NJ.
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okay so were down to LM-60 and winter sports lol decisions decisions !
I hear they are both very good tires, but the general concensous seems to be the LM-60 is a little better in the snow and the Dunlps are a little better for handling and treadwear and most other things. So it just a trade off and depends on your priorities.
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okay so were down to LM-60 and winter sports lol decisions decisions !
can't go wrong with either.
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Check out the survey results - http://www.tirerack.com/tires/survey...sp?type=W&VT=C

My tire guy sells both & told me the Dunlops are the better tire...as reflected in the survey -
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