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And on topic... my dad just picked up a '13 GT500 a few weeks ago which I have already driven several times. Great car, feels/looks much better made than I expected. Handling is much improved with the Bilstein 2 mode adjustable suspension, I found it to be quite well behaved on normal roads and very responsive for its size/weight in sport mode. Not much needs to be said about the engine other than wow. |
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09-27-2012, 06:13 PM | #48 |
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My 2 cents...
I was looking at trading in my X5 for the Ford GT 500. Here is what I learned along the way.
1) forget about BMW. If you go looking at the Ford with "BMW" on the brain, you will loose interest instantly 2) you have to appreciate what "American muscle" means. it's meant to be fun, and give thrills, not really sophistication and prestigue 3) the Ford GT500 brakes become less reliable as they heat up, making it dangerous in any situation 4) the Ford GT500 oil temperature is yellow after the first lap, dang ned RED by the end of the 2nd lap. Something just isn't right with that. Scary even. 5) simply put, it's an engine looking for a chassis ... and I don't think it's found it yet. 6) I doubt the M3 would "murder" it on the track, but because of the Ford flaws, thumbs up to M3 ... but as for myself, I'm now leading to the - GASP - beauty in the picture. |
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09-28-2012, 01:32 PM | #49 |
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For me, it's not about the .8 seconds quicker to 60 or the 2 mph trap speed, or the 1 second faster around a road course. Does that REALLY matter? Most of us are not pro drivers and simply will never drive any car we own to within a inch of it's limits. We'll reach our level of incompetence WAY before that. I've owned Mustangs, Firebirds, Trans Ams, Dodge Daytona (gag... sorry), a e36 M3, e46 330ci, '08 M Coupe, a 135i, and now have an e93 M3.
I pick my cars for reasons other than strictly HP numbers of 0-60 times. Sure, I don't want a dog, but the difference of less than a second to 60 is insignificant to me. I picked the M3 because of the styling, the looks, the handling, the interior, the sound, and the rarity (in addition to the HP). It's the whole package for me. I don't think any American muscle car can match the overall package. I don't mind paying more - I don't buy new anyways. There will always be a car that's faster out there. I'm ecstatic with my M3. |
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09-28-2012, 01:40 PM | #50 | |
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09-30-2012, 10:26 AM | #51 |
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I want one. Still waiting for a dealer that will sell me one for MSRP and not 15K markup. I think it would be fun and more power than my CGT. It would be a blast. A buddy let me drive his 2010 Cobra and man that thing was fun. I definitely want it in addition to the garage. Couldnt give a shit about the "whole package" or the stigma like most M3 owners that a car has to do everything known to man and basically give you a damn blowjob and back massage to be happy with it. The Cobra was a blast to drive. Its a muscle car. Some people just wont appreciate it, but for those who do, you know where I am coming from. However if Ford keeps F'ing around with me I will just hold off for the Viper.
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It's funny, I'm kind of in a similar predicament. I'm very, very intrigued by the Boss 302, but every time I think about making the switch I think to myself "do I really want to trade my BMW for a Ford?" I don't know why either, because the Boss is an amazing car, it's almost like that thought process is engrained.
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Haha, good one - if I had the stable you have, I'd also look for a car that's different and special in any particular way rather than moderately good at most things. You are in a position to buy cars for their quirks and character rather than for versatility or lack of faults. From this perspective, GT500 is definitely more special then M3.
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im not into the bulky styling of mustangs...... but i must say that for the price... thats one hell of a package.
I think the M3 is like nothing i've ever driven... but i do find myself longing for more G-force when i step on it here and there. For this reason i'm dying for a SC but just can't afford the expense right now. The M3 with 100 more ponies/lbs of torque makes the perfect car IMO... but hey its just a subjective opinion at the end of the day. To each its own.
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However my opinion is in the few because most people here seem to want to drive these performance cars everyday. I just dont know how you guys do it. Im not even old yet, but I find the relaxing comfort of the x5 seats and cls luxury my first choice when leaving for work. Saturday at 7am while having coffee, now that's a whole different story.
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01-20-2013, 02:46 AM | #61 | |
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I couldn't agree more. I love BMW's just as much as any bmw fanatic out there. But I do know when to give credit where its due. Driving my friends 5.0 mustang with a bassani exhaust just puts a stupid smile on my face. I love my car and it will out handle that thing like no other and is about if not equally as fast in a straight line. But that engine noise and the overall package is pretty amazing to beat, nobody in their right mind can deny that. |
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The Mustang is A great car, good bang for the buck, love the exterior styling, in my opinion the best looking Mustang yet but just not my cup of tea when looking at it as an overall package. The Z06 has a cheap interior but I would rather purchase one instead of the Mustang.
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650 HP super car speed capable Mustang for less than $70k (without mark-up), what's not to like? That thing would be a hoot to drive I guarantee it. I used to say Vettes were my favorite American cars if I had to get one, but this specific Mustang is up there.
As for the whole "better than M3" debate, it's not about the Stang being better, it's just plain different IMO. If you have many cars, then it's great to add this GT500 to the collection. If you have 1-2 cars to do everything (M3 + SUV), then the M3 is hard to beat in that respect. I'm very interested to see though where stang beats the M3 on track? I haven't seen numbers to back this up. For example, C63 Black Series couldn't beat our M3 GTS on the track and the Black Series is a beast too. Lastly, there's a ton of M3 haters in here for a M3 forum-that's just hilarious . While I agree the M3 isn't a true sports car like a Ferrari is, it's certainly not a 328i with a big engine - come on now...that's really generalizing something apparently you don't know much about. Last edited by S65V8; 01-20-2013 at 07:30 AM.. |
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I had a 2012 GT500 for 10 months. Now I own a 2013 E92. Nuff said.
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2008 M3 (with recalcitrant auto), 3:05.6 2009 M3 (with slightly annoying auto and Michelin PSC+ sneakers), 3:05.4 2013 Shelby GT500 Mustang, 3:00.6 2013 Camaro SS (with 1LE handling package), 3:01.5 2013 MB C63 Black - 2:58.0 2013 Audi RS5 - 3:04.3 2012 Boss 302 LS - 3:02.8 Bruce Edit: C & D hated the GT500 around VIR. The only reason it was quicker than the M3s was that it had insane power down the straights - but it was ugly everywhere else on track. Last edited by bruce.augenstein@comcast.; 01-20-2013 at 12:54 PM.. |
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