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      09-14-2012, 09:11 AM   #1
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80k average for 2013 GT 500!!!

This is based on searches on autoblog, etc. There is no way i would pay this much for a Mustang, even though our cars costs as much. Am I being objective or subjective?
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      09-14-2012, 10:01 AM   #2
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      09-14-2012, 10:02 AM   #3
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Just depends on what you want/like. I'm sure there are GT500 owners that think we are crazy for buying these underpowered German cars.
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      09-14-2012, 10:20 AM   #4
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That's markup as they're new for this MY. Loaded at $60k is an absolute bargain for 650bhp with full factory warranty. 'Stangs aren't my kind of car, but I can't think of many other brand new cars costing less than 70 grand that would put bus lengths on an M3 in the 1/4....
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Just depends on what you want/like. I'm sure there are GT500 owners that think we are crazy for buying these underpowered German cars.
This. And if you're a "Mustang guy", this car is your wet dream and $80k won't slow you down any more than someone who has $80k for an M3.
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      09-14-2012, 03:21 PM   #6
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No way would I pay that. IF I was a Mustang guy, I'd order the car and pay no more than MSRP.
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This. And if you're a "Mustang guy", this car is your wet dream and $80k won't slow you down any more than someone who has $80k for an M3.
Well said, and I agree completely. My dad is a 'Vette-guy and his dream car is in the same range as the new M5. But, you couldn't get him away from the 'Vette if you tried.
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      09-14-2012, 06:03 PM   #9
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It's all dealer markup. I optioned one out and it was still cheap for what you get
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Just depends on what you want/like. I'm sure there are GT500 owners that think we are crazy for buying these underpowered German cars.
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      09-14-2012, 08:42 PM   #11
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never paid MSRP, much less MSRP + markup, for any car in my life. not about to start.

that said, i am super intrigued by the Shelby. i'm fine with waiting out the initial rush and then if i'm still interested, i'll see if people are ready to deal
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      09-15-2012, 05:19 AM   #12
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never paid MSRP, much less MSRP + markup, for any car in my life. not about to start.

that said, i am super intrigued by the Shelby. i'm fine with waiting out the initial rush and then if i'm still interested, i'll see if people are ready to deal
+1 on paying for a car. I recently went to several Ford dealers to inquire about the Boss 302. All of them said "limited allocation. MSRP + $10k". It is a really nice car but with that type of adder, IMO, it really closes the pricing gap as compared to an M3.

Thinking long-term, I suspect the Boss 302 or Shelby will be worth a lot more 25 years from now (vs. the M3). Therefore perhaps it is a better investment. But I would rather buy something to enjoy today vs. keep for value.
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      09-15-2012, 09:35 AM   #13
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never paid MSRP, much less MSRP + markup, for any car in my life. not about to start.

that said, i am super intrigued by the Shelby. i'm fine with waiting out the initial rush and then if i'm still interested, i'll see if people are ready to deal
+1 on paying for a car. I recently went to several Ford dealers to inquire about the Boss 302. All of them said "limited allocation. MSRP + $10k". It is a really nice car but with that type of adder, IMO, it really closes the pricing gap as compared to an M3.

Thinking long-term, I suspect the Boss 302 or Shelby will be worth a lot more 25 years from now (vs. the M3). Therefore perhaps it is a better investment. But I would rather buy something to enjoy today vs. keep for value.

Lol... In Canada it's completely different.

Before I ordered my 2013 M3 I went to a Ford dealership and negotiated 4k off MSRP for a new GT500.

I told the sales guy I would wait till road tests came out and then decided on the M3 again in DCT and I absolutely love it. Feels so different from my 08 6MT M3.

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I don't understand why dealers think the 2013 shelby deserves a mark up. I believe Ford has said that they are going to make as many as people want therefore not limited production.
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I don't understand why dealers think the 2013 shelby deserves a mark up. I believe Ford has said that they are going to make as many as people want therefore not limited production.
It is because there is a sucker born every minute. They know there are tards out there that will pay the premiums so they wait for them to come in and pounce on them. The rest of us have common sense and know it is a waste of money.
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I feel sorry for the suckers that pay this. At the end of the year Ford will be offering X plan for these cars. Its like 2007 all over again when the GT500s first came out. To me I would take a Boss over the GT500, a better drivers car and put the left over money in my pocket.

I love Mustangs..never would I pay even MSRP for a GT500, fully loaded they are just under $70k. You can get a Boss for MSRP and have much better toy.

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there is a dealer down the street from my house asking $64k for a gt500 vert.
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I just want to beat the piss out of one for a couple days.
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      09-26-2012, 02:30 PM   #20
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Hear people in Europe go NUTS for Mustangs
I heard the same.

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I don't understand why dealers think the 2013 shelby deserves a mark up. I believe Ford has said that they are going to make as many as people want therefore not limited production.
Cool. The people who pay that much are idiots. Plain and simple based on your quote.

I thought it was a super duper special edition for the price and even then..im not sure. And thats saying something coming from me lol.
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Rust Warranty:

BMW M3: 12 years/unlimited miles

Ford Shelby GT500: 5 years/unlimited miles

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Hear people in Europe go NUTS for Mustangs
Yeah... ~everywhere I've been, people make fun of their domestics, and think imports are more desirable. Many places in Europe included.

You should have seen what evo's went for in europe a few years back (in countries where it's not normally sold)... it was bananas.

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