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Hmmm, sounds strangely familiar...
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I take it that you are not human and do not have a greedy bone in your body about anything?
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I take it you think the glorification of greed is a fine and noble social political economic philosophy worthy of this great nation.
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About greed, read your bible for the correct answer.
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Perhaps you should read your bible. You seem to think greed is good.
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I agree with you, "one could" and should. But we are human.
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09-24-2012, 10:39 AM | #13 |
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I drive a 6 year old BMW, I'm middle class, I work hard, I pay my taxes, I donate to charity when I can. So what's your point?
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According to your profile, you drive a 2011 M3. That is hardly a modest car, and in fact costs more than the median average income by a large margin. Ownership is such a car is well beyond the means of the vast majority of hard working, well meaning people in this country.
In fact, you could buy a E46 M3, or something like that, which is still a very fine car, higher quality, better performance, more crashworthy, etc than the average car, and take the difference and donate it to charity or something, and yet you choose not to. Nobody NEEDS an M car. I dont, but I have one because I choose to spend my money that way. I would never chastise someone else as being greedy considering what I drive, I might as well get the word hypocrite tattooed on my forehead. Reminds me of Michael Moore, condescendingly slamming the wealthy business owners every chance he gets, while living in a multi-million dollar manhattan apartment that only the 1% would qualify to get a mortgage for. Or Al Gore, whose multiple large mansions consume a MUCH larger carbon footprint than the average family home by a huge margin. If Al wants to slap me on the wrist for raping the environment, then he bloody well better be living in a 500 sq ft apartment, and ride his bicycle everywhere. |
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Without people being ambitious there would be no advancement. Greed just so happens to go hand in hand with ambition. It has its place in this world, whether you like it or not.
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It certainly wasn't ambition that caused the housing crisis.
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What is your point because I don't recall ever calling someone greedy because of the brand of their car. Perhaps you equate nice things with greed or maybe you're playing devil's advocate to provoke a discussion out of me? A homeless person can show signs of greed by exploiting a local bakery that willingly gives him free bread every morning, but when they're not looking he shoplifts. Quote:
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"An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth". Nobody NEEDS >400hp, or floating rotors in a car they drive on the street. The fact you have such a car, instead of a more modest 328 or something, does determine if you are a greedy person. Nothing wrong with wanting more than you need, but no point in pretending you are something you are not. Quote:
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I never claimed to be modest myself, that's why I admitted to buying an M car just because I can. I dont take public transit, and if you think I burn a lot of fuel driving to work, I dont even want to tell you how much I consume during a track day. ![]() I am, by my own definition, greedy, and I agree with the original premise of the video, that being greedy is not inherently bad in every sense of the word. I think you are greedy too. While I may fault you for your hypocrisy, I see nothing wrong with you being greedy. |
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-I never called you greedy.
-I never said you were NOT greedy. - You replied to me without provocation and created an argument for the sake of argumentation. -Owning a car of a certain brand does not define greed. Clearly you're off your meds because you're making very little sense AGAIN. ![]() |
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Nope, owning a certain brand does not define greed. Owning a model of car, of any brand, where the cost increase over dependable, safe transportation, is enough to provide a meal for over 100,000 starving children ($1 = 4 meals), that is greed.
https://www.wfp.org/donate/fillthecup This material excess becomes even more egregious when one considers that the performance benefits conferred by this financial premium cannot really be legally enjoyed on any street in the country. Yes, you are greedy. Like I said, nothing wrong with that. Sorry to "out" you buddy, welcome to the club. I'll save you a seat at the next annual meeting. Remember, if it wasn't for greed, a car like the M3 would probably not exist. Think about that the next time you take that S65 up to the redline. Yeah, sorry about the meds, I was so consumed with inner torment that I forgot again. Prevents me from coming up with such intellectual gems such as the premise that commies hate unions. |
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