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      09-19-2012, 02:45 PM   #1717
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I'm glad you got the black sub, it looks a little nicer in my opinion then the white face, I've looked at them a few times, just can't pull the trigger for some reason.
Are you thinking about the daytona or explorer II?
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Just sold my JLC Master Compressor Diving for same watch but in chrono version...wish mine actually looked this pristine.

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Thanks, figured that would be how it would go down in the long run, I was just trying to be lazy.

and just FYI, my old man is a PAM collector, I think he has about 8-10, one of which is the 112 and another was the 305 that I now own. He still wears his 112 fairly often, even though all his other PAMs are major collectable ones like the fifty.

I think it's his work horse so he doesn't feel bad if he damages it or anything. And he still gets compliments on it regularly.
ah! The 112 is definitely a great work horse type of watch. relatively in expensive (compared to other models), but still looks great on almost anything! Just picked up a 111, love the strap! I may sell my 112 very soon

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man... lots of nice watches here.
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I personally cant spend the bank on watches that dont have their own movements...not going to cough up 5-10K for watch with Valjoux or ETA movement...more and more companies make their own mvts now...Many of the Panerai's dont have their own mvts.

Patek, Rolex and JLC's...no worries....gotta give some credit to Audemars Piguet though...very nice watches.
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      09-27-2012, 07:33 AM   #1724
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I personally cant spend the bank on watches that dont have their own movements...not going to cough up 5-10K for watch with Valjoux or ETA movement...more and more companies make their own mvts now...Many of the Panerai's dont have their own mvts.

Patek, Rolex and JLC's...no worries....gotta give some credit to Audemars Piguet though...very nice watches.
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A crappy iPhone pic of the movement of my new daily 5004 Fliegeruhr:


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      09-27-2012, 07:35 AM   #1725
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I personally cant spend the bank on watches that dont have their own movements...not going to cough up 5-10K for watch with Valjoux or ETA movement...more and more companies make their own mvts now...Many of the Panerai's dont have their own mvts.

Patek, Rolex and JLC's...no worries....gotta give some credit to Audemars Piguet though...very nice watches.
I agree and disagree with you on this. Some of the companies using ETA movements are only using the winding parts, everything else they do is their own. Some make their own Chrono functions and add other bells and whistles to the base ETA piece. I have 2 watches with the same ETA base, and if you put them side by each and view the workings of them, they are so different. And on top of that, the finish is at different levels. But generally the companies that do this aren't asking ridiculous premiums

Now at the same time, there's companies who just put a base movement and base chrono and etc all in a simple case, then charge the moon for it. This is where I think the watch world is wrong.

I believe Panerai was a bad offender of the stick it in a pretty case and ask the moon for it. Panerai has been rectifying this lately, and they do not have many watches with an ETA movement in them anymore. They are switching over to in house.

Yes Swatch has stopped selling it's ETA movements to a lot of companies now, but it could have been easy for many of these "shunned" companies to just find another affordable base, but most are deciding to go the in house method. Ironically, this cuts out the middle man, and can actually make the companies more money in the long run because they aren't paying anyone for their parts. So the price of watches should be dropping, but it's actually going up because they know there's a demand for in house.

We are being taken advantage of as a result of the ETAs being discontinued in a lot of brands.

It's people with false information, who are making this the reality. And a lot of the watches that people thought were affordable luxury items like Tag or Omega, are now going to start being priced outside the affordable market for a lot of people.

It's almost a catch 22.

I own a few ETAs and I own several in houses, and I can tell you, my ETAs keep better time then some of the other in houses Their reliabilty is excellent because they are so time tested and hard worn by thousands of people.

PS, I have to say JLC is probably my favourite brand, I have 3 JLC watches, I fully believe for their quality and in house movement, they are one of the only companies who price their products right for the product you get. You have good taste (in my opinion) liking them
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A crappy iPhone pic of the movement of my new daily 5004 Fliegeruhr:


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I was never a big fan of IWC, but they have been growing on me over time, and that picture of the movement helps big time

I potentially see an IWC on my wrist in the future. I need to go to the boutique in NYC so I can see all their watches in one place.

Nice looking piece Robin
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      09-27-2012, 09:13 AM   #1728
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ah! The 112 is definitely a great work horse type of watch. relatively in expensive (compared to other models), but still looks great on almost anything! Just picked up a 111, love the strap! I may sell my 112 very soon

It's a good watch, I'd consider keeping it, use it more like a tool watch, or when going to the beach or whatever. Use the other one as a daily at work and nights out.

Depends if you can afford to keep 2 going or not as well. If you see $ tied up every time you look at it, then sell it, there's lots of collectors who will pick it up from you without thinking twice. Panerai watches are easy sells used.
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      09-27-2012, 09:24 AM   #1729
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Agree with most of what your saying....I have a Breitling I wear as a daily and I'm pretty sure it has a eta in it and it keeps time great...my JLC master compressor diving chrono is at jlc factory for polishing.

Companies like Omega bought Zenith and hence use Zenith movements now...seems like all watch companies are now owned my Swatch or Richemont and that's why we are seeing swapping of movements now.

I think companies that use eta and valjoux are fine if it isn't a premium price but I have an issue with the ones who charge premium price while using an eta mvt without even dressing it up abit...I think we're saying the same thing.






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I agree and disagree with you on this. Some of the companies using ETA movements are only using the winding parts, everything else they do is their own. Some make their own Chrono functions and add other bells and whistles to the base ETA piece. I have 2 watches with the same ETA base, and if you put them side by each and view the workings of them, they are so different. And on top of that, the finish is at different levels. But generally the companies that do this aren't asking ridiculous premiums

Now at the same time, there's companies who just put a base movement and base chrono and etc all in a simple case, then charge the moon for it. This is where I think the watch world is wrong.

I believe Panerai was a bad offender of the stick it in a pretty case and ask the moon for it. Panerai has been rectifying this lately, and they do not have many watches with an ETA movement in them anymore. They are switching over to in house.

Yes Swatch has stopped selling it's ETA movements to a lot of companies now, but it could have been easy for many of these "shunned" companies to just find another affordable base, but most are deciding to go the in house method. Ironically, this cuts out the middle man, and can actually make the companies more money in the long run because they aren't paying anyone for their parts. So the price of watches should be dropping, but it's actually going up because they know there's a demand for in house.

We are being taken advantage of as a result of the ETAs being discontinued in a lot of brands.

It's people with false information, who are making this the reality. And a lot of the watches that people thought were affordable luxury items like Tag or Omega, are now going to start being priced outside the affordable market for a lot of people.

It's almost a catch 22.

I own a few ETAs and I own several in houses, and I can tell you, my ETAs keep better time then some of the other in houses Their reliabilty is excellent because they are so time tested and hard worn by thousands of people.

PS, I have to say JLC is probably my favourite brand, I have 3 JLC watches, I fully believe for their quality and in house movement, they are one of the only companies who price their products right for the product you get. You have good taste (in my opinion) liking them
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exactly, my explanation was just very long winded

how long as the JLC been away?
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I wear my Breitling Seawolf Avenger daily. Its the titanium version much lighter than the new stainless. Usually do the metal band in the winter and the black rubber strap in the summer. Changed back to metal a couple weeks back. I still wonder why its waterproof to 10,000 feet...

Dont have a good pic but heres one i found online (same exact one)
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ugh... I'm having a hard time deciding between these 3 watches (or none of them):





same one as above, but in an interesting yellow with red accents


any suggestions?? need to know ASAP
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I already knew Clinton is a watchguy. Today I came across this pic in the newspaper. The same watch I wear as a daily as many of you members might know. A JLC MC Navy Seals Alarm (only 1,500 produced)



Southlight, are you paying attention?

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ugh... I'm having a hard time deciding between these 3 watches (or none of them):





same one as above, but in an interesting yellow with red accents


any suggestions?? need to know ASAP

B&R.
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I wear my Breitling Seawolf Avenger daily. Its the titanium version much lighter than the new stainless. Usually do the metal band in the winter and the black rubber strap in the summer. Changed back to metal a couple weeks back. I still wonder why its waterproof to 10,000 feet...

Dont have a good pic but heres one i found online (same exact one)
Now that is the first Breitling watch that I actually like. It's much less 'busy' than most of their other watches and I love the look in titanium.
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Now that is the first Breitling watch that I actually like. It's much less 'busy' than most of their other watches and I love the look in titanium.
Yeah thats why i got it. Its not flashy and shiny like stainless steel and its so much lighter. Only issue with the titanium is it scratches very easy and it has to be sent back to be polished out. Oh well after the winter ill send it in and make it look purdy again. I still remember the first day I picked it up and it was flawless ahhh one day it will be again
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Yeah thats why i got it. Its not flashy and shiny like stainless steel and its so much lighter. Only issue with the titanium is it scratches very easy and it has to be sent back to be polished out. Oh well after the winter ill send it in and make it look purdy again. I still remember the first day I picked it up and it was flawless ahhh one day it will be again
I have an inexpensive Skagen that is titanium and you are absolutely right about the scratching. It's a minor inconvenience though.
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Yeah thats why i got it. Its not flashy and shiny like stainless steel and its so much lighter. Only issue with the titanium is it scratches very easy and it has to be sent back to be polished out. Oh well after the winter ill send it in and make it look purdy again. I still remember the first day I picked it up and it was flawless ahhh one day it will be again
I call the scratches an aged look

titanum is nice.
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