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      09-07-2012, 07:13 PM   #1
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2013 X6M dealer invoice price (Canada)

Here is a dealer invoice report for anyone who's interested.
I got them down to 4% markup from the dealer cost.
There certainly isn't a lot of room for bargain.


2013 BMW X6 M AWD 4dr

Manufacturers Code: GZ03
4WD Sport Utility Vehicles

Manufacture warranty
<<< PRELIMINARY 2013 WARRANTY >>> Basic: 4 Years/80,000 km Drivetrain: 4 Years/80,000 km Corrosion: 12 Years/Unlimited km Roadside Assistance: 4 Years/80,000 km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 16.9 (2012)
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 11.9 (2012)

Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $102,900.00 $94,670.00
Freight $1,995.00 $1,995.00
Optional equipment selected
- GREEN LEVY TAX (-GAS)
$2,000.00 $2,000.00
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX)
$100.00 $100.00
- BLACK SAPPHIRE METALLIC (475)
$0.00 $0.00
- BLACK, EXTENDED MERINO LEATHER SEAT TRIM (LKSW)
$0.00 $0.00
- CARBON BLACK LEATHER TRIM (STD) (4MY)
$0.00 $0.00
- COMFORT SEATING PKG -inc: active driver seat, ventilated seats, front comfort seats (REQ: X2__ Perforated Full Merino Leather) *Deletes "M" embossing on front headrests* (ZJF)
$2,400.00 $2,210.00
- EXECUTIVE PKG -inc: soft close doors, manual side sunshades, Nappa leather dash & door trim, high-beam assistant, side view cameras, head-up display, smartphone integration, BMW Apps, SIRIUS satellite radio tuner w/1-year subscription, BMW individual audio system w/(16) speakers, 825-watt amplifier, Dolby ProLogic II, 7-band equalizer (ZNC)
$6,100.00 $5,610.00
- ACTIVE LED HEADLIGHTS (552)
$2,700.00 $2,485.00
- 20-WAY PWR MULTI-CONTOUR DRIVER & FRONT PASSENGER HEATED BUCKET SEATS -inc: standard 10-way pwr seat functions, plus additional pwr adjustment functions for shoulder & thigh support, backrest width & lumbar support (contour & position), 2-way manual lateral adjustment for comfort headrest (456)
$1,000.00 $920.00
Totals including all items above
Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
$119,195.00 $109,990.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Alternate Cash Back/Factory to Dealer Rebate $2,500.00 September 3, 2012
Finance Program
Retail Finance 4.90% 24 September 3, 2012
Retail Finance 4.90% 36 September 3, 2012
Retail Finance 4.90% 48 September 3, 2012
Retail Finance 4.90% 60 September 3, 2012
Retail Finance - 66 months term/72 months amortization 6.05% 66/72 September 3, 2012
Retail Finance 6.05% 84 September 3, 2012
Lease Program
Lease Rate 4.90% 24 September 3, 2012
Lease Rate 4.90% 36 September 3, 2012
We are currently updating our system with new incentives. You will receive an automated email as soon as new incentives are entered.
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
THE ALTERNATE CASH BACK/FACTORY TO DEALER REBATE program applies to deliveries between August 1, 2012 and September 3, 2012. This program is only available with cash purchases and is applied to the before tax amount. Please note; this program can not be combined with the Delivery Credit, if available. Please consult your dealer for further details.



Standard Features

EXTERIOR
- 20" x 10.0" front & 20" x 11.0" rear V-spoke alloy wheels (style 300M) -inc: P275/40R20 front & P315/35R20 rear run-flat performance tires - Body coloured wheel arches & rocker panels
- M body colour front apron & rear diffuser - M side gills
- Pwr sunroof - High gloss shadowline trim
- Front ornamental grille w/black kidney bars - Bi-Xenon automatic headlights -inc: headlight washers, adaptive light control, corona rings
- Adaptive brakelights - White turn signal indicator lenses
- M two-toned pwr-folding auto-dimming heated mirrors w/black case - Privacy glass
- Speed-sensitive rain-sensing windshield wipers -inc: heated washer jets - Automatic pwr tailgate
- Chrome double twin M tailpipes

INTERIOR
- Carbon black leather trim
- Combox controller - M sport seats w/padded side bolsters -inc: heated 10-way pwr driver & passenger seats w/lumbar support & driver side memory
- 60/40 split folding rear seats w/through load -inc: 2-stage heating - 5 seat option
- Active anti-whiplash front headrests - (3) adjustable rear headrests
- Multi-purpose centre console storage -inc: integrated cupholders - Stainless steel M driver footrest
- Door entry sill w/"M" in chrome - Front & rear velour floor mats
- M 3-spoke multi-function heated leather steering wheel -inc: pwr tilt/telescoping, auto tilt-up, M drive button - Check control vehicle monitor system
- iDrive system w/8.8" display -inc: condition based service (CBS) display - On-board computer -inc: (8) functions, (6) programmable memory keys
- Dynamic cruise control - Comfort access keyless entry
- Pwr windows -inc: anti-trap, comfort open/close - M drive w/customizable settings
- Central remote locking -inc: fuel filler door, central lock switch - Interior pwr trunk release
- Universal remote control - Coded driveaway protection
- Car/key memory w/follow me home function - Alarm system w/interior motion sensor
- Hard drive-based navigation system -inc: iDrive controller - 4-zone automatic air conditioning -inc: micro filter, solar sensor, air recirculation
- Smoker's pkg -inc: ashtray & lighter - Pwr points -inc: (3) 12 V in centre console, (1) in luggage compartment
- Aluminum shadow trim - Auto-dimming rearview mirror w/compass
- Illuminated visor vanity mirrors w/slide cover - Anthracite roofliner
- Lighting pkg -inc: door exit lights, handle area illumination - Front seatback storage nets
- Fully finished trunk -inc: tool kit, luggage compartment cover - Storage compartment pkg -inc: (2) lashing rails, (4) eyes
- Ski bag

MECHANICAL
- 4.4L HPI twin turbocharged V8 engine -inc: dual intercoolers, launch control, cylinder-bank comprehensive manifold (CCM)
- Engine start/stop button - M double VANOS steplessly variable valve timing
- Electronic "drive-by-wire" throttle system - Electronically controlled fuel pump -inc: on-demand disengagement
- Dynamic performance control - 6-speed M sport automatic transmission -inc: gearshift paddles
- M-specific xDrive -inc: all wheel drive system, rear axle bias - M Servotronic speed-sensitive pwr steering
- Preparation for trailer tow hitch - Self-levelling air suspension
- Front/rear stabilizer bars - Electronic damper control (EDC)
- Front/rear anti-lock disc brakes w/blue painted brake calipers - Brake energy regeneration
- Pwr dome hood

SAFETY
- Dynamic stability control (DSC-X) -inc: auto differential brake (ADB-X), auto stability control w/traction (ASC+T), dynamic brake control (DBC), dynamic traction control (DTC), electronic brake force distribution (EBD), hill descent control (HDC)
- Battery safety terminal - Adaptive drive -inc: active throttle valve
- Collapsible tube crash technology - Side impact protection door reinforcements
- Driver/front passenger airbags -inc: occupant detector, SMART airbag deployment - Driver/front passenger side thorax airbags
- Front/rear advanced head protection system (AHPS) - Driver/front passenger kneepads
- BMW assist -inc: advanced automatic collision notification, teleservices, customer relations function, destination download, emergency request, roadside assistance, Google MyInfo, remote door unlock, stolen vehicle recovery - Front/rear park distance control -inc: display in iDrive
- Rear view camera w/top view - Crash sensor -inc: fuel cutoff, lights on, door unlock
- Safety belt force limiters w/front pyrotechnical tensioning system - Tire pressure warning

ENTERTAINMENT
- Anti-theft AM/FM stereo w/CD/MP3/DVD player -inc: HiFi (16) speaker sound system, 2 subwoofers, satellite radio pre-wiring, USB audio integration, Y-cable for iPod, aux input, CD changer pre-wiring - Bluetooth wireless technology
- Voice control -inc: telephone, navigation, audio functions

PROCESSING-OTHER
- ** PRELIMINARY STANDARD EQUIPMENT **
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That's not bad at all.

The most recent offer I worked out with BMW Toronto for a 2013 M5 was 4% off the MSRP, which means dealer's take is 4.87% margin.
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That's not bad at all.

The most recent offer I worked out with BMW Toronto for a 2013 M5 was 4% off the MSRP, which means dealer's take is 4.87% margin.
Did you have to pay nearly $4000 for freight & pdi along with whatever doc fee/ adm fee? I was shocked by seeing that on dealer's spec sheet.
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Yup. The amount of discount negotiated for just enough to cover all these crappy fees. That's how I negotiated to my best ability at that time.

Many other GTA dealers refused to discount even 1 penny off the M5, as one said to me "It a M5, you can't expect us to discount such a low volume and prestigous M car" .... this was quoted by Mitzi Brown, sales Mgr of Endras BMW. what a joke !




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Yup. The amount of discount negotiated for just enough to cover all these crappy fees. That's how I negotiated to my best ability at that time.

Many other GTA dealers refused to discount even 1 penny off the M5, as one said to me "It a M5, you can't expect us to discount such a low volume and prestigous M car" .... this was quoted by Mitzi Brown, sales Mgr of Endras BMW. what a joke !
Maybe she's right for the wrong reason. It's all about price elasticity, or supply/demand. If the demand is there, they can sell for above MSRP. A better sales tactic would have been..."I have a few potential buyers at MSRP or MSRP plus, therefore unfortuantely I cannot offer you at a price below MSRP. I wish we could but we have such a small allocation of these terrific M cars...I hope you understand."
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In the US, I understand a dealer can sell for MORE than the MSRP, this is illegal in Canada to sell higher than MSRP, to get around it, dealers may have to put in additional aftermarket equipments, say tinting to sell for more.

The buyers in Canada are not stupid, unless you don't care and simply want a M car at any cost, then I can understand. There are so many dealers in where I live, I can easily tracked down 10 dealers within a 100km radius zone and to see who is willing to deal. That's how I shopped and got my deal done and mind you, I have never paid MSRP on any of past cars, given that I change cars every two years or so.



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Maybe she's right for the wrong reason. It's all about price elasticity, or supply/demand. If the demand is there, they can sell for above MSRP. A better sales tactic would have been..."I have a few potential buyers at MSRP or MSRP plus, therefore unfortuantely I cannot offer you at a price below MSRP. I wish we could but we have such a small allocation of these terrific M cars...I hope you understand."
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Yup. The amount of discount negotiated for just enough to cover all these crappy fees. That's how I negotiated to my best ability at that time.

Many other GTA dealers refused to discount even 1 penny off the M5, as one said to me "It a M5, you can't expect us to discount such a low volume and prestigous M car" .... this was quoted by Mitzi Brown, sales Mgr of Endras BMW. what a joke !
Looks like the dealers here on the west coast having problem moving their 2012 M5s as all the dealers I have called/contact have multiple M5s in stock. They all promise VERY GOOD deals, but I am curious to see what they can do without factory incentives to help them making moves. In 2008, I waited until the last day of OCT and scored a great deal on my M3 (got nearly $8k off with 0.9% finance). I am willing to wait and see what will happen.

Congratulations to your M5 purchase and now just go ahead & enjoy it!
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I remembered the M3 were sitting in many dealers lot right across the country due to the 2008 world wide financial crisis. I was in the market looking for one at that time, remembering BMW Canada were offering $5000 rebate (unheard of at any time) and plus whatever you can get off from the dealer, therefore, I am not surprised with your huge discount.

Another example I remembered back in 2008 was Nissan were offering if you buy a 370Z, the dealer will throw in a Versa in for FREE. I had never seen such giveaway ever.



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Looks like the dealers here on the west coast having problem moving their 2012 M5s as all the dealers I have called/contact have multiple M5s in stock. They all promise VERY GOOD deals, but I am curious to see what they can do without factory incentives to help them making moves. In 2008, I waited until the last day of OCT and scored a great deal on my M3 (got nearly $8k off with 0.9% finance). I am willing to wait and see what will happen.

Congratulations to your M5 purchase and now just go ahead & enjoy it!
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In the US, I understand a dealer can sell for MORE than the MSRP, this is illegal in Canada to sell higher than MSRP, to get around it, dealers may have to put in additional aftermarket equipments, say tinting to sell for more.
State the source of your information. I read this several times on the internet yet never seen any solid and convincing evidence that it's true. MSRP is manufacturer suggested retail price. It doesn't have any legal standing and is definitely not some legally binding maximum price. Dealers can charge whatever they want as long as there is no deception involved. In fact I'm pretty sure many cars like the GT-R and the 1M are sold for way over MSRP when they come out as new models. Heck, I've SEEN a 1M selling for over MSRP at a bmw dealer a few months ago. The extra $$$ above MSRP wasn't some admin fee. It was clearly labelled as a "market correction" or "market price" or something like that.
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Another example I remembered back in 2008 was Nissan were offering if you buy a 370Z, the dealer will throw in a Versa in for FREE. I had never seen such giveaway ever.
Funny how I don't recall that. Especially since the 370z did NOT even exist in 2008.

I bought mine in the summer of 2009 and didn't get as much as a free can of pop from the stealership.
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In the US, I understand a dealer can sell for MORE than the MSRP, this is illegal in Canada to sell higher than MSRP, to get around it, dealers may have to put in additional aftermarket equipments, say tinting to sell for more.
State the source of your information. I read this several times on the internet yet never seen any solid and convincing evidence that it's true. MSRP is manufacturer suggested retail price. It doesn't have any legal standing and is definitely not some legally binding maximum price. Dealers can charge whatever they want as long as there is no deception involved. In fact I'm pretty sure many cars like the GT-R and the 1M are sold for way over MSRP when they come out as new models. Heck, I've SEEN a 1M selling for over MSRP at a bmw dealer a few months ago. The extra $$$ above MSRP wasn't some admin fee. It was clearly labelled as a "market correction" or "market price" or something like that.
I am not quite sure where such info can be verify but back in 2008, when I still worked for dealership, we were not allowed to sell anything over the MSRP. however, there is a trick as we could buy back customers' cars (high demand ones of course) and sell them for more than MSRP. that's what I have seen with the 1M's situation. Could the policy be different in each province? Maybe but I don't know for sure.
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I am not quite sure where such info can be verify but back in 2008, when I still worked for dealership, we were not allowed to sell anything over the MSRP. however, there is a trick as we could buy back customers' cars (high demand ones of course) and sell them for more than MSRP. that's what I have seen with the 1M's situation. Could the policy be different in each province? Maybe but I don't know for sure.
It could be the dealership's policy or even the car manufacturer prohibiting its dealers from selling above MSRP. But as far as it being illegal, this claim keeps popping up on car forums everywhere. Yet no one has ever quoted the exact law that supposedly makes this illegal. No one has shown any instance of a dealer being prosecuted for selling above MSRP. And no legal expert has ever verified the existence of such law. There are laws for consumer protection and laws that prohibit price gouging and unfair trade practices. But none of these laws necessarily ban selling above MSRP.
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Pardon me for not knowing the exact Z model. If the 370z is the newer model, then it must be the 350z.

The big giveway was in Ontario (GTA dealer), of course, I don't recall which dealer as it was placed in the Toronto weekly Saturday's Wheels section.

Here is a blog that also mentioned the deal. Pardon me again. It was 350Z Roadster and get the Versa free

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/free-...adster-629814/


Therefore, I do not know what province you are from and I cannot make any comment into your purchase.



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Funny how I don't recall that. Especially since the 370z did NOT even exist in 2008.

I bought mine in the summer of 2009 and didn't get as much as a free can of pop from the stealership.

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