2013 e92 M3 Dyno - 365 RWHP Stock

[Longboarder]

Went to EAS today to get a baseline dyno of my 2013 M3 today with only 300 miles on the ODO. Car is 100% stock. As some of you might know, the 2013's run the 240e software, which may have something to do with the results. EAS mentioned that the highest dyno number they saw on an M3 was 357...so the result was surprising to say the least. Here's a vid of one of the pulls...enjoy.

[schnell325]

Saw this on FB.

[EAS]

This M3 is a beast, here are results from today:

SAE


STD


Conditions were 95F inside, it was HOT! Looking forward to see what she puts down next!

[Orange fever]

Fresh off the factory line......nice stock numbers

[flipm3]

Amazing results Longboarder and well done with the data measurement, EAS.

I recall EAS posting a dyno of an AW E90 M3 that put down 364whp and 267wtq STD. Which looks right in line with your results. I'm kind of bummed out, I thought Melbourne Red was the fastest color, but clearly it's Alpine White

Please do more runs with your exhaust setup too before the boost!

[rjd598]

anyone wanna explain to me the difference between STD and SAE. this car is a beast none the less!! i need to get on a dyno im curious to see what my car puts down

[Mike Benvo]

Very nice numbers...

Are you positive it was on something later than 231E?

I'm not completely convinced unless you verified the revision it has. I have tuned a few 2013 cars and they all had 231E.

Now that you have a good baseline it's time for mods

[AlpineE92M3]

Saw this on EAS youtube channel. Great run! Impressive stock numbers! If you ever want to sell the ZCP rims, I would to love to have them on my '11 AW E92. Let me know! Would love to see some more vids!

[Roman@ESS]

Nice

[Longboarder]

Originally Posted by schnell325

Saw this on FB.

Thanks it was a good time. Was kinda cringing during the dyno runs as I don't think I've even taken it above 8,000 RPM myself. Anyway, its broken in now and I'm ready to beat the snot out of it

Originally Posted by EAS

This M3 is a beast, here are results from today:

Conditions were 95F inside, it was HOT! Looking forward to see what she puts down next!

Thanks guys for getting me in so quickly! I'll be back quite a few times in the next few weeks as the mods get installed.

Originally Posted by Orange fever

Fresh off the factory line......nice stock numbers

I was originally trying to dyno it the same day I picked up the car but that's probably a little crazy

Originally Posted by flipm3

Amazing results Longboarder and well done with the data measurement, EAS.

I recall EAS posting a dyno of an AW E90 M3 that put down 364whp and 267wtq STD. Which looks right in line with your results. I'm kind of bummed out, I thought Melbourne Red was the fastest color, but clearly it's Alpine White

Please do more runs with your exhaust setup too before the boost!

Ahh see its Mineral White...the metallic flakes give it a couple more HP than the AW

Sorry but in order of mods, I'm gonna install the supercharger first, then the exhaust (catless MRF mid pipe and Akra slip), and then the meth...and then a bunch of little tweaks. I want to see the delta I can get with the mods on top of the blower. I'm cautiously optimistic that I can gain another 50 - 75 RWHP with the exhaust, meth, fine tuning. Thinking 510 wheel with just the blower and 580 when all is said and done.

Originally Posted by rjd598

anyone wanna explain to me the difference between STD and SAE. this car is a beast none the less!! i need to get on a dyno im curious to see what my car puts down

Good question...no idea about the differences...but when I come back to dyno I will be comparing apples to apples...i.e. SAE stock to SAE with the blower.

Originally Posted by Mike Benvo

Very nice numbers...

Are you positive it was on something later than 231E?

I'm not completely convinced unless you verified the revision it has. I have tuned a few 2013 cars and they all had 231E.

Now that you have a good baseline it's time for mods

I'm actually not positive and so if you saw 231E then maybe I'm wrong. I heard about the new software and was assuming perhaps that factor fine-tuning accounted for some of the power. As soon as we crack it open next week for the supercharger tune we will know for sure and I will let you know if it's 240E.

[Carl L]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Thanks it was a good time. Was kinda cringing during the dyno runs as I don't think I've even taken it above 8,000 RPM myself. Anyway, its broken in now and I'm ready to beat the snot out of it



Thanks guys for getting me in so quickly! I'll be back quite a few times in the next few weeks as the mods get installed.



I was originally trying to dyno it the same day I picked up the car but that's probably a little crazy



Ahh see its Mineral White...the metallic flakes give it a couple more HP than the AW

Sorry but in order of mods, I'm gonna install the supercharger first, then the exhaust (catless MRF mid pipe and Akra slip), and then the meth...and then a bunch of little tweaks. I want to see the delta I can get with the mods on top of the blower. I'm cautiously optimistic that I can gain another 50 - 75 RWHP with the exhaust, meth, fine tuning. Thinking 510 wheel with just the blower and 580 when all is said and done.



Good question...no idea about the differences...but when I come back to dyno I will be comparing apples to apples...i.e. SAE stock to SAE with the blower.



I'm actually not positive and so if you saw 231E then maybe I'm wrong. I heard about the new software and was assuming perhaps that factor fine-tuning accounted for some of the power. As soon as we crack it open next week for the supercharger tune we will know for sure and I will let you know if it's 240E.

Holy crap! You're chucking a supercharger on a 2013? You are a mad bad man! Car looks great, great dyno results and respect on going FI

BTW, out of curiosity, did you consider a GTR or anything like that?

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

I'm actually not positive and so if you saw 231E then maybe I'm wrong. I heard about the new software and was assuming perhaps that factor fine-tuning accounted for some of the power. As soon as we crack it open next week for the supercharger tune we will know for sure and I will let you know if it's 240E.

I verified your SW after your dyno session since you were one of the first MY13s through the doors. You are confirmed 240E.

Good chatting today, see you for round 2 soon.

[JulieDriving]

Originally Posted by Longboarder

Went to EAS today to get a baseline dyno of my 2013 M3 today with only 300 miles on the ODO. Car is 100% stock. As some of you might know, the 2013's run the 240e software, which may have something to do with the results. EAS mentioned that the highest dyno number they saw on an M3 was 357...so the result was surprising to say the least. Here's a vid of one of the pulls...enjoy.

I'm a total dyno n00b but by the comments, sounds like your car's power is tops for a stock E92 M3.

What's the 240e software? I'm wondering if I have it. I guess I should google.

EDIT: Can't find anything searching 240e using the search function. Got any links handy?

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by JulieDriving

I'm a total dyno n00b but by the comments, sounds like your car's power is tops for a stock E92 M3.

What's the 240e software? I'm wondering if I have it. I guess I should google.

240E relates to the software version of the Engine ECU (DME). Newest confirmed software version on the M3 is 240E at the moment.

Longboarder is definitely one of the highest baseline M3s recorded on our dyno.

[JulieDriving]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

240E relates to the software version of the Engine ECU (DME). Newest confirmed software version on the M3 is 240E at the moment.

Longboarder is definitely one of the highest baseline M3s recorded on our dyno.

Thanks Tom.

Should the dealer be able to check what software version I have? If so, will have them do it when I go in for my 2000 km (or 1200 mile) break-in

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by JulieDriving

Thanks Tom.

Should the dealer be able to check what software version I have? If so, will have them do it when I go in for my 2000 km (or 1200 mile) break-in

Dealers use a different method of determining software levels, which points to a base level of the entire vehicle - they do not have the ability to update specific modules or determine a version of a individual module.

Dealer will not be much help in this department. However any autologic-equipped facility or any of the performance flash tools (ESS, HEX OR Evolve) will ID the software version of the DME for you.

[JulieDriving]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Dealers use a different method of determining software levels, which points to a base level of the entire vehicle - they do not have the ability to update specific modules or determine a version of a individual module.

Dealer will not be much help in this department. However any autologic-equipped facility or any of the performance flash tools (ESS, HEX OR Evolve) will ID the software version of the DME for you.

Thanks.

[Beemw335]

Thats the m competition exhaust right?

[rjd598]

Originally Posted by Beemw335

Thats the m competition exhaust right?

No performance exhaust. It's stock exhaust from the factory

[IMG]

Strong numbers !

[GIdriver]

Nice!!

[pbonsalb]

355 rwhp SAE is about as good as any M3 has done on a dynojet. It does look like BMW has been fine tuning the software for more consistent and better performance.

SAE is very roughly about 2-3% less than STD. They are methods of standardizing uncorrected, real world, actual that day results to a comparable power level by adding or reducing power to what it would be under certain air density (temperature, humidity, etc) conditions. On a cold day, a car will actually make more power -- what you feel in winter is real. And on a hot day, the car will actually make less power -- and you feel that also. Rated engine power is just output under standardized conditions.