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      08-30-2012, 01:24 PM   #1
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Paul Ryan Can't Stop Lying

The GOP lie machine is on full throttle at the moment. At last night's convention, Paul Ryan just could not stop spreading lies. It's gotten so bad even Fox News is calling him out on them. I bet the right wingers will try and find some way to make the lying ok.

Does the GOP not understand the meaning of the word integrity?

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The GOP lie machine is on full throttle at the moment. At last night's convention, Paul Ryan just could not stop spreading lies. It's gotten so bad even Fox News is calling him out on them. I bet the right wingers will try and find some way to make the lying ok.

Does the GOP not understand the meaning of the word integrity?

Washington Post Story 1

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Fox News Opinion Story
No, they will somehow twist what he was saying into a series of if's and maybe's, and then say it was true. Lol...

Yes, very interesting that even Fox News said it was a series of blatant lies. That says quite a bit!
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And I am sure at the DNC convention next week no speaker with speak any untruths. Sure they won't. But I am sure just like at the RNC they will twist the words to sound great to the unwashed masses
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      08-30-2012, 05:52 PM   #4
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And I am sure at the DNC convention next week no speaker with speak any untruths. Sure they won't. But I am sure just like at the RNC they will twist the words to sound great to the unwashed masses
So you're fine with your VP nominee blatantly lying to the American public. ok, got it.
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      08-30-2012, 07:20 PM   #5
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It's sad that people even acknowledge these liars and fools. If they really think that they care or will do a single thing to help them then they deserve the wonderful things that will come of voting them into power.
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So you're fine with your VP nominee blatantly lying to the American public. ok, got it.
I take it you're fine with Biden.? He really adds to your ticket what.? You really want this guy to be a heartbeat away.?
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Apparently that fox opinion piece was written by a writer Fox pays to appear more liberal. Wash Post had a good reaction article on the speech which did a good job in summarizing the ambiguous bullshit. Ryan and Condi Rice gave good speeches presentation-wise though.



I was more shocked to hear McCain criticizing the Obama administration for skipping out on an opportunity to engage Iran

"The world wants more American involvement"

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      08-30-2012, 07:56 PM   #8
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I take it you're fine with Biden.? He really adds to your ticket what.? You really want this guy to be a heartbeat away.?
Feel free to bring up a specific point about the VP, and I'll debate it with you. I hear you are a mastur debater.

So you're fine with Ryan lying. Didn't you start a thread about the lack of honesty in a SuperPAC ad supporting President Obama. So you're only for integrity if it suits your party?

edit: oh no that was gamoto, you were just one of the folks that chimed in.
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Hey, hey! Me! Ask me!

It's full contact politics. Stop whining.

When you libs said Romney killed some lady you opened yourselves up to whatever comes next.

Now it's our turn and yes, whatever it takes to persuade the peeps and get your guy voted out of office.
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      08-31-2012, 07:43 AM   #10
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Here's a question regarding Obamacare and its effect on medicare. It is a fact that it cuts the reimbursement dollars to doctors for senior care by 25%. So there are already many doctors who are just going to refuse to treat medicare patients. With the cost of malpractice insurance they can't afford to not make any profit for their services. This will greatly reduce options for seniors to get the best heathcare that they deserve, and punishes our seniors to help finanace this economy killing boondoggle called obamacare. Is cutting 25% out of benefit rates that are presently paid for doctor services not a huge gouging of medicare?? Sounds like gouging to me.
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When you libs said Romney killed some lady you opened yourselves up to whatever comes next.
So you're saying that anything said by anyone supporting the democrats, is implicitly conferred upon by all democrats? And furthermore, you don't see the difference between a group of partisan nobody PAC people making a questionable conclusion in a TV ad, versus the vice-presidential nominee lying to the world at the RNC?

Can I conclude then that all republicans believe Obama's a Kenyan Muslim anti-american socialist marxist antichrist? Did I leave anything out?
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So you're saying that anything said by anyone supporting the democrats, is implicitly conferred upon by all democrats? And furthermore, you don't see the difference between a group of partisan nobody PAC people making a questionable conclusion in a TV ad, versus the vice-presidential nominee lying to the world at the RNC?

Can I conclude then that all republicans believe Obama's a Kenyan Muslim anti-american socialist marxist antichrist? Did I leave anything out?
No...we don't all believe the Muslim, Marxist, Antichrist stuff, but anti-american socialist that would be a yes.
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No...we don't all believe the Muslim, Marxist, Antichrist stuff, but anti-american socialist that would be a yes.
I don't believe that I've seen anyone call "O" a Muslin, Marxist, Antichrist before on this forum except Dems in their rants against Reps.
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No...we don't all believe the Muslim, Marxist, Antichrist stuff
That's precisely my point; just as OldArmy shouldn't assume that all democrats believe everything any democrat says.
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I don't believe that I've seen anyone call "O" a Muslin, Marxist, Antichrist before on this forum except Dems in their rants against Reps.
You do know there are republicans who are not on this forum, right? I think the national poll shows about 30 - 40% of republicans think Obama's a Muslim, and there are significant percentages for the other things as well. But again, that's not the point.
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That's precisely my point; just as OldArmy shouldn't assume that all democrats believe everything any democrat says.
You do know there are republicans who are not on this forum, right? I think the national poll shows about 30 - 40% of republicans think Obama's a Muslim, and there are significant percentages for the other things as well. But again, that's not the point.
Post that poll and from a non biased site.
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Post that poll and from a non biased site.
Are you kidding me?!
You'd have to be that guy who thinks the Vietnam war is still going on, not to be aware of these polls for the past 4 years. If you're going to offer your opinions in the politics forum, try having a clue first.
http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and...-a-Muslim.aspx
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...081806913.html
http://articles.businessinsider.com/...omney-s-mormon
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ents-religion/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...-survey-shows/
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...muslim/254380/

I can easily find about 100 more if you'd like.
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Yeah, but how many of those 30-40% beleive Elvis is still alive??? Inquiring minds want to know!!!



P.S. Personally, non-partisan.
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Are you kidding me?!
You'd have to be that guy who thinks the Vietnam war is still going on, not to be aware of these polls for the past 4 years. If you're going to offer your opinions in the politics forum, try having a clue first.
http://www.pewforum.org/Politics-and...-a-Muslim.aspx
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...081806913.html
http://articles.businessinsider.com/...omney-s-mormon
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics...ents-religion/
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010...-survey-shows/
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/...muslim/254380/

I can easily find about 100 more if you'd like.


Scotch and Cigar, how are you doing? I was wondering how long it would take after you were banned before you just couldnt help yourself and dredge up old stats like this. Your join date, the fact you list your location as Mass., the fact you list your car as a 128 cab, and most of all your tone in the emails themselves, all the pieces fall into place.

Moderators, I would suggest you take a look at the IP address of this user...
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Scotch and Cigar, how are you doing? I was wondering how long it would take after you were banned before you just couldnt help yourself and dredge up old stats like this. Your join date, the fact you list your location as Mass., the fact you list your car as a 128 cab, and most of all your tone in the emails themselves, all the pieces fall into place.

Moderators, I would suggest you take a look at the IP address of this user...
Not to mention 10 out of his 19 posts are in the Politics forum.

Figures, I take 1 week of vacation and I miss Scotch getting banned. I was wondering why it was so quiet here.
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That's precisely my point; just as OldArmy shouldn't assume that all democrats believe everything any democrat says.
You do know there are republicans who are not on this forum, right? I think the national poll shows about 30 - 40% of republicans think Obama's a Muslim, and there are significant percentages for the other things as well. But again, that's not the point.
I said on this forum didn't I... I dom 't give a damn what the rest of the world is doing when I am speaking about this forum
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Scotch has been banded? WOW..! I've wondered why he has been so quiet

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So you're saying that anything said by anyone supporting the democrats, is implicitly conferred upon by all democrats? And furthermore, you don't see the difference between a group of partisan nobody PAC people making a questionable conclusion in a TV ad, versus the vice-presidential nominee lying to the world at the RNC?

Can I conclude then that all republicans believe Obama's a Kenyan Muslim anti-american socialist marxist antichrist? Did I leave anything out?
Naaah, I'm just being pissy. But the fact that the president of the whole united states didn't see a problem with that one is in and of itself, a problem.

Lying is strong wording, it's probably a bit more like stretching the facts, something Republicans learned from you guys.

Conclude whatever you like.

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