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But I'd put my money on a professionally trained army Than some civilians with some shot guns
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I thought bombing other countries was a US specialty ![]() That's basically how wars are fought now You go in with bombers, Take out anti aircraft, runways, key bridges etc Then once you have air superiority Then your troops move in And the troops won't just be armed with guns, they will have satellite reconnaissance, radar, night vision googles, AWACS planes, bazookas etc There's no way you can convince me that because x percentage of Americans have guns That this makes the US a safer place from an enemy invasion If we'rre talking army vs civilians Army will win 90% of the time
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BTW: This isn't the UK or Russia and other countries where only shotguns are allowed in civilian hands. Most of us have some serious fire power in our gun cases. Oh and don't forget the folks in the inter cities that are armed to the teeth and really don't like authority. Have a nice safe secure day that you can only have in the US.
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If the point is to invade and annex/colonize, you don't want to destroy everything. Sure, you'll take out "key strategic targets," but you're not going to level everything. In order to stop the 200 million plus armed Americans, an invading Army would have to level everything, or be faced with at least a century of guerilla warfare, that even our great American military has struggled with for decades. Tell me what country would spend a hundred years of time and money trying to kill every last armed American citizen? Oh, I didn't think so. This is like way OT though, so I'll just leave it at that. I'm not debating the fact that a well trained Army/Air Force can take out people with just guns, that's pretty obvious. I'm debating that they can't sucessfully colonize the USA because of the millions of armed people that would likely form groups and fight back once the smoke from the bombs settled. People would hide in the mountains (which we have plenty of), just like the Taliban is hiding in the Afghan mountains now.
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I think a lot of it is a difference in attitude. You see this American-esque individualistic can-do attitude as ridiculous chest thumping, and we see your...French-esque "I give up- won't even try" attitude as deplorable and craven. Quote:
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There are some things that people who have not served in the armed forces will never fully understand. And in this country, as mentioned before, we have PLENTY of military vets who would leap into action acting essentially as force multipliers with armed militia.
I really don't care if its perceived as arrogance or chest thumping, so send your bombers and missiles; do your worst. Because if there are Americans still alive when your boats hit the shore; you had better brought your friends and packed one hell of a lunch, because it's gonna be a long day. That's just how it is. It's the American spirit; this is the land of the free and the home of the brave.
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Well said. And, for the record, I'm a former Captain and a well-reasoned professional, not some yahoo redneck in my bunker o guns in Idaho. You're probably right, Mp0wer, that it's vets who probably have that nofuckingway will I give up despite the odds attitude instilled into them.
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.. As long as I'm not involved, in what has now become, a weekly shooting spree?
So I'm safe as long as some crazy lunatic doesn't shoot at me Well thanks a bunch!
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One small message I'd like to say
When was the last time ( in the last 200 years) a country was even considering invading the states ? Are we also protected against alien invasion? Stampeding unicorns? Or any other totally fictional scenario? So I'm supposed to be thankful that millions of armed Americans are preventing the multitude of armies waiting at the borders, just aching to invade, if only you'd put down your guns? And I'm supposed to be happy that the cost of that is that we have some mad man, shoot some innocent civilians, on a now weekly basis? Is that the accepted cost of this security? Call me crazy, but I'd rather have a little fear of invading armies, but not lose innocent people every few days, and take that as an acceptable cost. I don't like to think of this, because I truely don't wish it on any of you. But I wonder how you'd all feel if your kids, wives, loved ones, we're some of these people we hear about getting killed so often now. Imagine if your kids went to the movies, and never came back, killed by a LEGALLY bought gun. Would you still have that same gung-ho attitude?
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Anyway I'm out of this conversation
It seems the admins are blocking people who were commenting on this thread And I'm not a fan of admins directing the topic of discussion to suit their tastes So fire away y'all I hope you keep enjoying your guns, and fire away I'm sure at some point, if things continue as they are with the weekly shootings, there won't be enough of you left to argue with ![]()
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Its still a heck of a lot safer in the US with some nuts running around than it is in your homeland isn't it...!
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You took the words right out of my mouth. Glad someone said it...
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Having them for whatever purpose far outweighs any downside. Nuts are nuts and if it wasn't a gun they use to do a "bad thing" it would be something else. Additionally, I like having criminals and, yes, sometimes even the cops (who I love and respect), just a little bit cautious and respectful about banging on my door. I've also been in some really dicey places out in the boonies where everybody was carrying. Funny how polite people are when that is the case. Last edited by OldArmy; 08-30-2012 at 09:35 AM. |
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