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      08-20-2012, 11:16 AM   #529
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take note that everything gets reset. my seats, mirrors, radio, and trip monitor were all reset once it was coded with the newest software. I IMMEDIATELY noticed a difference in the steering, the brakes, and the overall smoother pull in first gear when I floored it. LOVE LOVE LOVE it!
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Does anyone have a dyno sheet of an 08 M3 with the older version that does NOT have any problems like the one did on page 7? A healthy 08 w/E80 software E92 M3? Id like to see a dyno of before and after on a stock 08 that has no problems. My car is getting serviced as we speak and they quoted me $200 for the update. I'm skeptical after reading the entire thread. Thanks.
RunFile003 and RunFile011 on the dyno chart on the first page are basically what you are looking for. My '08 had mods and slightly newer software but I didn't have any problems with the car.
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take note that everything gets reset. my seats, mirrors, radio, and trip monitor were all reset once it was coded with the newest software. I IMMEDIATELY noticed a difference in the steering, the brakes, and the overall smoother pull in first gear when I floored it. LOVE LOVE LOVE it!
Now just to get rid of those cats and get that evolve tune.
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Not sure if I missed it somewhere, but can anyone explain the differences in the amount of time it takes to upgrade to 231e? For example, most times I've read are 2-3 hours of programming at the dealer and as quick as 5 minutes (after a 35 minute read time) for a 231e update from a "tuner" company. Are some tuners only using 231e update on the DME and hence the quick times? If so, shouldn't all the modules be updated together to the latest software version rather than picking and choosing?
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Now just to get rid of those cats and get that evolve tune.
Thats my next step If only somebody could make them fast enough I wanted a fresh new ecu (with the 231E) so I wouldnt have to worry about losing the tune then having to do it again. Basically a clean slate. I have an exhaust going on soon, as well as springs, so I'm ready!
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Not sure if I missed it somewhere, but can anyone explain the differences in the amount of time it takes to upgrade to 231e? For example, most times I've read are 2-3 hours of programming at the dealer and as quick as 5 minutes (after a 35 minute read time) for a 231e update from a "tuner" company. Are some tuners only using 231e update on the DME and hence the quick times? If so, shouldn't all the modules be updated together to the latest software version rather than picking and choosing?
My dealer told me it took 2.5 hours, but they only charged me for an hour of labor since it was basically a "hook up, read, set and forget"--where they just left the car there while the program was "installing."

Not sure if that helps...just what my dealer told me.
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Not sure if I missed it somewhere, but can anyone explain the differences in the amount of time it takes to upgrade to 231e? For example, most times I've read are 2-3 hours of programming at the dealer and as quick as 5 minutes (after a 35 minute read time) for a 231e update from a "tuner" company. Are some tuners only using 231e update on the DME and hence the quick times? If so, shouldn't all the modules be updated together to the latest software version rather than picking and choosing?
The dealer is programming the whole car (tons of modules) because they have to. The tuner companies are only updating the DME. Also, the 30 min read time is not always necessary.
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      08-20-2012, 04:42 PM   #537
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Comparing dynos isn't really going to help, if a baseline has not been taken beforehand. This is not a performance mod, but instead: scheduled maintenance.

Updating from 080E should see improvements in not only drivability, but a possible power increase as well. Assuming engine has been properly maintained and is in good working order.



Yes, or even newer.



Depends on what specific options are chosen from your specific tuner. Dealers have specific methods of detecting tunes, but aren't on a witchhunt to void warranties at every possible opportunity.

Dealers want to get cars in and out as efficiently as possible. At the same time, keep a potential returning customer happy.



09/11 will likely have 200E or 220E if not updated recently. Those that have never been updated will notice the most drastic changes after updating.

Thanks. The car is immaculate and the foreman who did the update commented on how he was shocked it was on the original software. Shows the car has been well maintained.
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RunFile003 and RunFile011 on the dyno chart on the first page are basically what you are looking for. My '08 had mods and slightly newer software but I didn't have any problems with the car.
Thanks as well. I am about to go pick up the car from being updated. I'll post with impressions.
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The dealer is programming the whole car (tons of modules) because they have to. The tuner companies are only updating the DME. Also, the 30 min read time is not always necessary.
Correct. Dealer cannot target specific modules, the entire vehicle must be updated. Autologic or those using the flash cables (VF, ESS or Evolve) can update using their flash methods if an aftermarket tune is desired.

If going the dealer route - depending on how far behind on updates you are will determine how much time is needed to update the vehicle.

We are equipped with autologic, the 231E update can be performed in about 30 minutes.
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      08-20-2012, 06:16 PM   #539
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hmm, that improved steering feel is very appealing.
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      08-20-2012, 07:56 PM   #540
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hmm, that improved steering feel is very appealing.
It's awesome. That and the brake feel were the two immediate things I noticed.
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Just got the car back guys. Here are my quick impressions.
-The best way to describe it is more responsive. The car seems to be "jumpier" now and seems to get to red line a little quicker. Extra whp? No clue...i wouldn't even bother with a guess.

- As noted by someone the handling/steering does feel smoother. I was only able to go through the streets to get home from the dealer to alot of 1-2, 2-3 shifts didn't get into 4th much either..nothing over 60 yet.

- The software installed was actually a 2.32....which is the latest version of the software.
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I have 190E on my car now. Does it make any difference to update to 231E?
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I have 190E on my car now. Does it make any difference to update to 231E?
Yes! Others have claimed a slight power increase as well as improvements in drivability.
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Is it logical to think MY13's will come with 231E?
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Is it logical to think MY13's will come with 231E?
231E has been out since at least Feburary 2012, there should no reason why not.
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      08-23-2012, 02:56 PM   #546
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Any independent shop in the NH/MA/VT/ME/RI area who can do this software update?
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231E has been out since at least Feburary 2012, there should no reason why not.
My local BMW told me the same and that there is actually a newer software. the 2.32. Which is what i received.
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My local BMW told me the same and that there is actually a newer software. the 2.32. Which is what i received.
Yep, I think the latest is 243E now but I could be wrong about the number. Regardless, there is a newer version than 231E now.
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How do I know what my car has?
You need to have someone with Autologic tell you. The dealer can also give you the integration level (I think that's what it's called?) but it's somewhat cryptic and doesn't tell you the version only the month and year of that software's release.
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