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      08-21-2012, 09:39 AM   #1
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Considering trading my stock E92 M3 for a Dinan S3 E39 M5

I recently became aware of a low mileage (32K, same as my 08 M3), E39 M5 that has the Dinan S3 package (supercharged 621 HP, suspension, brakes, wheels, etc...).

I spent a lot of time picking out my SSII 6MT CF roof, 19", Tech package, etc. I love the styling, and performance (though I would like more torque.)

Anyway, I am tempted to trade in my E92 as a DD for the E39, due to it's uniqueness, power, and sleeper quality.

Funny thing to ask on this board, but what are peoples' thoughts, and has anyone driven one of the 30 or so Dinan prepped S3's who can offer a comparison?

Here is some more info on the S3:

http://src.dinancars.matrixwebs.net/...20pdf%2015.pdf

PS. Not that I am going to Drag the car, but there is a Youtube video of someone posting an 11.795 1/4 mile, pretty impressive specs.
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      08-21-2012, 10:14 AM   #2
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      08-21-2012, 02:02 PM   #3
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No way I would make that trade. It all seems like fun, until you drop $10K on your first repair bill...
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      08-21-2012, 02:17 PM   #4
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      08-21-2012, 02:39 PM   #5
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I like all the feedback so far, I just spoke to my mechanic who also said he would never drop that kind of $ on an E39, no matter what mods it has. I should have mentioned I also already have an E34 Dinan/stroker M5, he didn't understand having both.

I guess I really liked the idea of the S3, because it is so unique...but I am slowly being talked out of it.

BTW, my mechanic said if I was going to "trade" in the $45k range, he would be looking at a 911 TT, and I can still drive the kids around in the E34, or the SUV.

Before making any decisions it sounds like I should review the "mods" section and see what tempts me...especially to get more torque out of the E92 (I don't have $20k+ to drop into SC or stroking the M3...which I assume is what it must cost)...also isn't it hard to pass smog in CA with the SC (not impossible I understand, but it will take some effort).
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      08-21-2012, 02:43 PM   #6
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      08-21-2012, 04:46 PM   #7
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As a previous E39 M5 owner, I'll join in the "don't do it" chorus.

Fantastic car in it's own right, don't get me wrong. One could even make the argument that the higher displacement S62 made for a more relaxed daily driver - when it wasn't drinking a small refinery worth of crude oil a month. But handling is not in the same league as the E90/E92 and maintenance costs will make you cry. Adding forced induction to your current M3 is clearly the better path.
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i would not own any forced induction car that didn't initially come with forced induction from factory. You really need to have built the internals well for it to last...
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      08-22-2012, 01:45 AM   #10
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This is my point-if you cant afford to spend 15k to supercharge an m3, than how are you going to pay for repair bills on an old m5 that has been supercharged? Sounds like you should be happy with what you have and drive it. Make more money than step up to a faster car or get a cheaper american muscle.

The 911 is even a worse idea. Replace the burbo on a 911 of that year and you will be out 7k so good luck doing maintence
"Maintenence to keep my rig running", or rather "actual necessity to repair my DD" will be less painful to explain to my wife than a $15k outlay just to make my M3 faster. Does that make sense?
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This is my point-if you cant afford to spend 15k to supercharge an m3, than how are you going to pay for repair bills on an old m5 that has been supercharged? Sounds like you should be happy with what you have and drive it. Make more money than step up to a faster car or get a cheaper american muscle.

The 911 is even a worse idea. Replace the burbo on a 911 of that year and you will be out 7k so good luck doing maintence
Agree with the first part, but not the second. The engine in the 911 turbos is bullet proof. I've known a number of people who have bought 2001-2004 911 turbos and none have had issues with them. As long as you do your research and find a clean car the likelihood that something is going to go catastrophically wrong is pretty low. Plus for 45k the 911 turbo is in a completely different league than an M3. OP if you're itching for a new car I would recommend trying to drive an old 911 turbo.
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If the OP is really hot on having that car, then he should buy it. BUT, not as a DD. Fork out another $10-$15K for a Civic (not kidding) that you can drive daily, will cost practically $0 to maintain, and gets 30mpg. Go burn up tires on that Dinan M5 on the weekends.
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That would make sense if you prefer driving a Civic to a BMW. Some people like to drive beaters while they preserve their M3 for its next owner. I would not buy it if I did not drive it.
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That would make sense if you prefer driving a Civic to a BMW. Some people like to drive beaters while they preserve their M3 for its next owner. I would not buy it if I did not drive it.
Or if you prefer spending $350 a month on gas instead of $100. Or taking your your "nice" "rare" car to a lot everyday where it gets bashed by car doors, shit on by birds, peed on by bums and occasionally might get keyed. Then, ya.. you should definitely get a Dinan M5 as a daily. And pray like a mofo it doesn't break down when you really need to be at work that day.
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"Maintenence to keep my rig running", or rather "actual necessity to repair my DD" will be less painful to explain to my wife than a $15k outlay just to make my M3 faster. Does that make sense?
You my friend need lessons in sophistry Look it up... the true origin of the law profession, might be inspirational. Keep the M3.
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Or if you prefer spending $350 a month on gas instead of $100. Or taking your your "nice" "rare" car to a lot everyday where it gets bashed by car doors, shit on by birds, peed on by bums and occasionally might get keyed. Then, ya.. you should definitely get a Dinan M5 as a daily. And pray like a mofo it doesn't break down when you really need to be at work that day.
Enjoy your Civic.
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Enjoy your Civic.
Technically, I have an Accord. But I did have an '06 Civic coupe in '06 and thought it was a fun car.
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I think Hondas are great cars and recommend them to most people who want a nice, practical car that gets good mileage and does not cost too much. I am just not a big fan of the "keep the nice car in the garage" and drive the beater mentality. It is just a car. Drive it and enjoy it. Sell it and buy another when it is old and tired.
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That would make sense if you prefer driving a Civic to a BMW. Some people like to drive beaters while they preserve their M3 for its next owner. I would not buy it if I did not drive it.
I drive all of my cars, hard! I don't want a garage queen (except maybe the Dinan E34 that only gets about 2-3k miles a year). Each car has their place...this said I need a daily driver and do would not want it to be a civic/accord.

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Or if you prefer spending $350 a month on gas instead of $100. Or taking your your "nice" "rare" car to a lot everyday where it gets bashed by car doors, shit on by birds, peed on by bums and occasionally might get keyed. Then, ya.. you should definitely get a Dinan M5 as a daily. And pray like a mofo it doesn't break down when you really need to be at work that day.
Funny enough I have an Accord, and it takes me to ballgames and tight parking lots, where door dings and birds can have at it. A civic/accord is not going to meet my DD needs/desires. And if the S3 were to break down I have a few other choices in the stable.

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You my friend need lessons in sophistry Look it up... the true origin of the law profession, might be inspirational. Keep the M3.
Sohistry = "subtly deceptive reasoning or argumentation", my wife is an engineer and pretty perceptive, I may need to go back and get a law degree ;-)

This all said, I just got a new set of tires on the E92 yesterday, and may need to keep it for a little while longer...but then again...
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U can go SC route for like $8k (ess 535) and keep ur stock exhaust system. SCed m3 is a beast

I really like all Gen m5s, but the maintanance will kill u.
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U can go SC route for like $8k (ess 535) and keep ur stock exhaust system. SCed m3 is a beast

I really like all Gen m5s, but the maintanance will kill u.
This ESS seems like the way to go on my M3. Curious why the S3 will be more expensive to maintain that the M3 once it is SC'ed.

Also, does the ESS on the E92 pass smog in CA?
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E39 has a lot of old school electronics. All ur rubber pieces are old, and will start to crack. How was the m5 used? U don't know. M3 is just u, and relatively new.
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