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      08-16-2012, 04:38 AM   #749
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      08-16-2012, 08:48 AM   #750
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Why the Toyobaru MUST BE DESTROYED...

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      08-19-2012, 06:53 PM   #751
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      08-21-2012, 03:51 AM   #752
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One of my two caveats regarding the Toyobaru... the lack of back seat space, not so bad as it looks if the driver or passenger is not pushing six feet tall (the guy is six feet tall) :




Hyundai Genesis Coupe just for the sake of comparison:


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      08-21-2012, 04:05 AM   #753
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Lap time: 01:51.3 sec





The 1M did it in 01:43.3 sec

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      08-22-2012, 04:10 AM   #754
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As hard as I try, I simply can't like the new 981 Boxster's back end since day one...

So, for those of you who might have issues with the Toyobaru's back end, please think twice...



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      08-22-2012, 09:00 AM   #755
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Haha, I like the Subie, but the 981 is in a completely different styling category. Even the ugliest Ferrari since the Mondial, the California, is a tough comparison. Face it, the Japanese suffer when designing good looking cars. The FD RX7 and first Lexus SC400 being notable exceptions.
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      08-22-2012, 02:34 PM   #756
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Haha, I like the Subie, but the 981 is in a completely different styling category.
Do you like that 981's scifi rear?!




Oh well... I can only imagine Obama turning from this...




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Haha, yes, I actually like the 981 back, the front is a little too much like the last MR2, or MR-S or whatever Toyota's dumb name was. The Toyabaru is just boring, in the same vein as a 5/8th scale Genesis Coupe.
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      08-22-2012, 03:26 PM   #758
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Haha, yes, I actually like the 981 back, the front is a little too much like the last MR2, or MR-S or whatever Toyota's dumb name was.
I don't like the front either... but not as weird as the back...
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Even the ugliest Ferrari since the Mondial, the California, is a tough comparison. Face it, the Japanese suffer when designing good looking cars.
When you do side by side comparisons you start to realize how well proportioned the Toyobaru really is...








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What's sad is that I think Toyabaru really missed an opportunity here. It's not much better looking than the supremely awkward California. It really could/should have been much better looking. Don't get me wrong, if they make an STi version, I'm buying one, but it's still a bucket full of bland.
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the FR-S front looks so much better
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Lap time: 01:51.3 sec





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irrelevant post is irrelevant
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      08-22-2012, 05:42 PM   #763
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What's sad is that I think Toyabaru really missed an opportunity here. It's not much better looking than the supremely awkward California. It really could/should have been much better looking. Don't get me wrong, if they make an STi version, I'm buying one, but it's still a bucket full of bland.
The Toyobaru is growing on me... like you hadn't noticed!

I think the car is much better looking in person... have you ever seen one yourself?

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      08-22-2012, 05:46 PM   #764
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the FR-S front looks so much better
Better than the Ferrari's front or better than the BRZ's front?!

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irrelevant post is irrelevant
Hummm... let me see... so why do these guys do the same irrelevant things year after year, say like finding the best driver's car or finding what is more important between balance and speed?!





What is relevant to you then about cars... I mean, if you would have to choose between balance and speed?!

These are precisely the kind of questions I put to myself as an 1M owner who happens to absolutely love the concept of both the Bimmer and the Toyobaru...

What is the most FUN?!
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Better than the Ferrari's front or better than the BRZ's front?!

Better than the BRZ

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Hummm... let me see... so why do these guys do the same irrelevant things year after year, say like finding the best driver's car or finding what is more important between balance and speed?!





What is relevant to you then about cars... I mean, if you would have to choose between balance and speed?!

These are precisely the kind of questions I put to myself as an 1M owner who happens to absolutely love the concept of both the Bimmer and the Toyobaru...

What is the most FUN?!
I called your post irrelevant because it was comparing lap times - nothing to do with FUN.
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brz is so hyped, it's getting out of hand.
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Better than the BRZ
Definitely better than the Ferrari if I may add...


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I called your post irrelevant because it was comparing lap times - nothing to do with FUN.
Ok, now we know... for you pure speed is not the most important factor as far as car FUN is concerned. The Toyobaru was made for you then!

Motortrend, Top Gear, EVO they all are doing lap times, not me... call them irrelevant then, right?!

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brz is so hyped, it's getting out of hand.
Maybe it's time for you to get inside one and discover for yourself that maybe it's NOT hype... maybe it's just plane FUN!
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Maybe it's time for you to get inside one and discover for yourself that maybe it's NOT hype... maybe it's just plane FUN!
Maybe, but at 160rwph, having owned an s2000 and an STI, Its just ZZZZZzzzz to me. I'm sure it's fun, but so is an elise, I just find the hype to be overblown. But I remember the same thing with the 1M, now it's crickets about the 1M.
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