M3 vs F430, R8 V10, Gallardo, Elise, GTR, and Carrera S - Page 2

pharmdphd98 · 08-11-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HREM3

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Originally Posted by radiantm3

I don't think I'll ever actually buy a Ferrari. Just the thought of maintenance repair costs alone would keep me away.

It's nice to dream though.

True. Well honestly a decked out M3 is plenty of sports car. Driving other cars makes you appreciate the M3 even more! This statement is based off my most recent extensive driving experiences includes 997.1 Porsche Turbo, 2008 430 Scuderia, 2011 1M.

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pharmdphd98 · 08-11-2012, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by HREM3

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Originally Posted by radiantm3

I don't think I'll ever actually buy a Ferrari. Just the thought of maintenance repair costs alone would keep me away.

It's nice to dream though.

True. Well honestly a decked out M3 is plenty of sports car. Driving other cars makes you appreciate the M3 even more! This statement is based off my most recent extensive driving experiences includes 997.1 Porsche Turbo, 2008 430 Scuderia, 2011 1M.

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pharmdphd98 · 08-11-2012, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HREM3

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiantm3

I don't think I'll ever actually buy a Ferrari. Just the thought of maintenance repair costs alone would keep me away.

It's nice to dream though.

True. Well honestly a decked out M3 is plenty of sports car. Driving other cars makes you appreciate the M3 even more! This statement is based off my most recent extensive driving experiences includes 997.1 Porsche Turbo, 2008 430 Scuderia, 2011 1M.

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pharmdphd98 · 08-11-2012, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HREM3

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiantm3

I don't think I'll ever actually buy a Ferrari. Just the thought of maintenance repair costs alone would keep me away.

It's nice to dream though.

True. Well honestly a decked out M3 is plenty of sports car. Driving other cars makes you appreciate the M3 even more! This statement is based off my most recent extensive driving experiences includes 997.1 Porsche Turbo, 2008 430 Scuderia, 2011 1M.

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pharmdphd98 · 08-11-2012, 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HREM3

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiantm3

I don't think I'll ever actually buy a Ferrari. Just the thought of maintenance repair costs alone would keep me away.

It's nice to dream though.

True. Well honestly a decked out M3 is plenty of sports car. Driving other cars makes you appreciate the M3 even more! This statement is based off my most recent extensive driving experiences includes 997.1 Porsche Turbo, 2008 430 Scuderia, 2011 1M.

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pharmdphd98 · 08-11-2012, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HREM3

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiantm3

I don't think I'll ever actually buy a Ferrari. Just the thought of maintenance repair costs alone would keep me away.

It's nice to dream though.

True. Well honestly a decked out M3 is plenty of sports car. Driving other cars makes you appreciate the M3 even more! This statement is based off my most recent extensive driving experiences includes 997.1 Porsche Turbo, 2008 430 Scuderia, 2011 1M.

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pharmdphd98 · 08-11-2012, 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HREM3

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiantm3

I don't think I'll ever actually buy a Ferrari. Just the thought of maintenance repair costs alone would keep me away.

It's nice to dream though.

True. Well honestly a decked out M3 is plenty of sports car. Driving other cars makes you appreciate the M3 even more! This statement is based off my most recent extensive driving experiences includes 997.1 Porsche Turbo, 2008 430 Scuderia, 2011 1M.

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pharmdphd98 · 08-11-2012, 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HREM3

Quote:

Originally Posted by radiantm3

I don't think I'll ever actually buy a Ferrari. Just the thought of maintenance repair costs alone would keep me away.

It's nice to dream though.

True. Well honestly a decked out M3 is plenty of sports car. Driving other cars makes you appreciate the M3 even more! This statement is based off my most recent extensive driving experiences includes 997.1 Porsche Turbo, 2008 430 Scuderia, 2011 1M.

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Porschefile · 08-11-2012, 07:37 PM

^wtf? Bot attack?

adc · 08-12-2012, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Porschefile

^wtf? Bot attack?

New episode of DCT's gone bad.

OP, great review. I have yet to drive the Ferrari or Lamborghini, but I drove the 997.2 Coupe stick and GT-R and out of these, I'd pick 911 first, M3 next and GT-R last.

The 911 stick felt very interactive, good suspension setup, some strange handling quirks but what stuck out was the gritty feelsome feedback of the suspension, steering and transmission.

I drove my neighbors Elise for 30 min of pure bliss, but the seats were so uncomfortable that my feet went numb during the drive. Yes it is the purest expression of what a sports car should feel like IMO, and I may still own one soon as they aren't that expensive, but only as the 3rd car in the family, not a replacement for the M3.

Great review, sounds like you had fun...

konaforever · 08-12-2012, 09:28 AM

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This!

Wait what?

DD GT3 RD · 08-12-2012, 05:06 PM

^agreed. Driven a 430 and I thought my .2 Gt3 was much better. Hard to compete with the the GT class porsche

radiantm3 · 08-12-2012, 09:42 PM

Glad to hear the gt Porsches deliver in spades. Sounds like a more cost effective upgrade.

Parkanzky · 08-12-2012, 09:59 PM

A 911 is next on my wish list now that I've checked the box next to "e90 M3."

Liking cars is such a ridiculously irrational and ruinous thing!

adc · 08-12-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Parkanzky

Liking cars is such a ridiculously irrational and ruinous thing!

Although I've heard exotic women are even more so.

Oh well, we only live once.

Kyoshi71 · 08-13-2012, 10:32 AM

Once you described the Carrera with the word "soul-less", I stopped reading.

W/// · 08-13-2012, 01:09 PM

It's amazing that while the M3 is completely outgunned here, it's still able to make you think for a second. The E9x is that gap right before you reach exotic cars like these. Perfect blend of performance and everyday utility. Not to mention somewhat being affordable (used cars prices are very reasonable for what you get IMO).

I'm a long long way to reaching that dream, but a 911 Turbo and some type of Italian sports car will be in my garage someday

konaforever · 08-13-2012, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

Once you described the Carrera with the word "soul-less", I stopped reading.

I believe that's the 991 version he drove. According to all reviews, it does have less soul than previous iterations. Not that I would call it soul-less still.

radiantm3 · 08-13-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Kyoshi71

Once you described the Carrera with the word "soul-less", I stopped reading.

1. It was a cabriolet
2. It had the first gen PDK. shifts as slow and feels just like my wife's 335i.
3. I had just got out of the gallardo.

It's all relative. The only thing I loved about the car was the steering/handling.

RedGTS · 08-20-2012, 09:43 AM

FYI, the R8 doesn't have a DSG/DCT; it has an automated manual just like the Gallardo would have had if it hadn't been a true 6MT. Definitely not as smooth or as fast as a DCT. I have owned 4 of the cars (as well as two E92 M3's) and spent significant seat time in the others, and wouldn't agree with most of your opinions, but that's no biggie.

Richbot · 08-20-2012, 10:06 AM

Wow, I didn't even know they made 3-pedal F430's.

radiantm3 · 08-20-2012, 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by RedGTS

FYI, the R8 doesn't have a DSG/DCT; it has an automated manual just like the Gallardo would have had if it hadn't been a true 6MT. Definitely not as smooth or as fast as a DCT. I have owned 4 of the cars (as well as two E92 M3's) and spent significant seat time in the others, and wouldn't agree with most of your opinions, but that's no biggie.

I was told the 2012's have DSG. Quick search reveals that is the case as well.

08-11-2012, 07:37 PM	#31
Porschefile Major Drives: E92 M3 DCT, E46, Formula Mazda Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Tennessee Posts: 1,039 iTrader: (5)	^wtf? Bot attack? __________________ #18 Formula Mazda, Southeast Division SCCA

08-12-2012, 05:06 PM	#34
DD GT3 RD Major Drives: 08 M3 DCT AW/Red Join Date: May 2009 Location: West Hollywood Posts: 1,252 iTrader: (1)	^agreed. Driven a 430 and I thought my .2 Gt3 was much better. Hard to compete with the the GT class porsche __________________ 13 E92 M3 ZCP - WSIR 1:34:5 / BW C13 2:03:6 (stock besides wheels/tires R-s3) Past: Boss 302 - WSIR 1:32:8 / BW C13 2:02:00 C63 w/P31 / 997.2 GT3 / E92 M3 / B7 RS4

08-12-2012, 09:42 PM	#35
radiantm3 AWD...training wheels for RWD Drives: 11 E92 M3, 13 F25 X3 xdrive35i Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 3,135 iTrader: (5) Garage List 2011 E92 M3 [4.73] 2013 BMW X3 xdrive35 [4.50]	Glad to hear the gt Porsches deliver in spades. Sounds like a more cost effective upgrade. __________________ 2011.5 E92 M3 6MT / 45,000+ miles / 3400lbs with no driver, half tank / M3 GTS Aero, Rear Seat Delete, Half Cage • Schroth 6 Point Harness • Recaro Profi • 18" BBS FI / 18" TE37SL Black Edition • Ohlins RT • Vorshlag Camber Plates • Brembo 380GT • Endless Pads • Akrapovic Evo • RD Sport Sways • ESS Tune • Supercharger Delete (1:42 @ Laguna Seca, 2:09 @ Thunderhill, 1:56 @ Infineon)

08-13-2012, 10:32 AM	#38
Kyoshi71 Colonel Drives: 2010 M3 Coupe Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: New York Posts: 2,543 iTrader: (0)	Once you described the Carrera with the word "soul-less", I stopped reading. __________________ "But resist we much; we must; and we will much; about that be committed." ~Rev. Al Sharpton 2010 E92 M3\|Silverstone II\|M-DCT\|NCSW\|2MT\|ZCW\|ZPP\|ZTP\|302\|507\|Gas Guzzler Tax

08-13-2012, 01:09 PM	#39
W/// Major Drives: E30 Vert & E92 M3 Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: SC Posts: 1,231 iTrader: (2)	It's amazing that while the M3 is completely outgunned here, it's still able to make you think for a second. The E9x is that gap right before you reach exotic cars like these. Perfect blend of performance and everyday utility. Not to mention somewhat being affordable (used cars prices are very reasonable for what you get IMO). I'm a long long way to reaching that dream, but a 911 Turbo and some type of Italian sports car will be in my garage someday __________________ 2008 E92 M3: Sparkling Graphite - Bamboo Beige - 6MT - CF Roof - OEM ZCP Wheels - ACM Test Pipes - Borla S-Type - BPM Stage II Tune & Coding- RS Technik Spacers (12F/12R)

08-12-2012, 09:59 PM	#36
Parkanzky Private Drives: '10 SGM M3 Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: Grand Rapids, MI Posts: 75 iTrader: (0)	A 911 is next on my wish list now that I've checked the box next to "e90 M3." Liking cars is such a ridiculously irrational and ruinous thing!

08-20-2012, 09:43 AM	#42
RedGTS Private Drives: Multiple Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: TN Posts: 53 iTrader: (0)	FYI, the R8 doesn't have a DSG/DCT; it has an automated manual just like the Gallardo would have had if it hadn't been a true 6MT. Definitely not as smooth or as fast as a DCT. I have owned 4 of the cars (as well as two E92 M3's) and spent significant seat time in the others, and wouldn't agree with most of your opinions, but that's no biggie.

08-20-2012, 10:06 AM	#43
Richbot Major Drives: Jerez Black E90 Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: STL Posts: 1,486 iTrader: (1)	Wow, I didn't even know they made 3-pedal F430's. __________________

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