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      08-11-2012, 10:51 AM   #23
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I don't think I'll ever actually buy a Ferrari. Just the thought of maintenance repair costs alone would keep me away. It's nice to dream though.
True. Well honestly a decked out M3 is plenty of sports car. Driving other cars makes you appreciate the M3 even more! This statement is based off my most recent extensive driving experiences includes 997.1 Porsche Turbo, 2008 430 Scuderia, 2011 1M.
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True. Well honestly a decked out M3 is plenty of sports car. Driving other cars makes you appreciate the M3 even more! This statement is based off my most recent extensive driving experiences includes 997.1 Porsche Turbo, 2008 430 Scuderia, 2011 1M.
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OP, great review. I have yet to drive the Ferrari or Lamborghini, but I drove the 997.2 Coupe stick and GT-R and out of these, I'd pick 911 first, M3 next and GT-R last.

The 911 stick felt very interactive, good suspension setup, some strange handling quirks but what stuck out was the gritty feelsome feedback of the suspension, steering and transmission.

I drove my neighbors Elise for 30 min of pure bliss, but the seats were so uncomfortable that my feet went numb during the drive. Yes it is the purest expression of what a sports car should feel like IMO, and I may still own one soon as they aren't that expensive, but only as the 3rd car in the family, not a replacement for the M3.

Great review, sounds like you had fun...
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^agreed. Driven a 430 and I thought my .2 Gt3 was much better. Hard to compete with the the GT class porsche
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A 911 is next on my wish list now that I've checked the box next to "e90 M3."

Liking cars is such a ridiculously irrational and ruinous thing!
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Liking cars is such a ridiculously irrational and ruinous thing!
Although I've heard exotic women are even more so.

Oh well, we only live once.
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Once you described the Carrera with the word "soul-less", I stopped reading.
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It's amazing that while the M3 is completely outgunned here, it's still able to make you think for a second. The E9x is that gap right before you reach exotic cars like these. Perfect blend of performance and everyday utility. Not to mention somewhat being affordable (used cars prices are very reasonable for what you get IMO).

I'm a long long way to reaching that dream, but a 911 Turbo and some type of Italian sports car will be in my garage someday
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Once you described the Carrera with the word "soul-less", I stopped reading.
I believe that's the 991 version he drove. According to all reviews, it does have less soul than previous iterations. Not that I would call it soul-less still.
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Once you described the Carrera with the word "soul-less", I stopped reading.
1. It was a cabriolet
2. It had the first gen PDK. shifts as slow and feels just like my wife's 335i.
3. I had just got out of the gallardo.

It's all relative. The only thing I loved about the car was the steering/handling.
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FYI, the R8 doesn't have a DSG/DCT; it has an automated manual just like the Gallardo would have had if it hadn't been a true 6MT. Definitely not as smooth or as fast as a DCT. I have owned 4 of the cars (as well as two E92 M3's) and spent significant seat time in the others, and wouldn't agree with most of your opinions, but that's no biggie.
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Wow, I didn't even know they made 3-pedal F430's.
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FYI, the R8 doesn't have a DSG/DCT; it has an automated manual just like the Gallardo would have had if it hadn't been a true 6MT. Definitely not as smooth or as fast as a DCT. I have owned 4 of the cars (as well as two E92 M3's) and spent significant seat time in the others, and wouldn't agree with most of your opinions, but that's no biggie.
I was told the 2012's have DSG. Quick search reveals that is the case as well.
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