Steering Wheel Vibration Woes Continue!

ajvee · 08-13-2012, 07:02 AM

Guys,

My steering wheel vibration woes continue with my E92 M3. Car has 39K miles with fairly new tires.

I first took the car to the dealer, who said that 3 of my 4 wheels were bent. The front right and my rear wheels. I had the bends fixed and the vibrations continued.

I then had the wheels rebalanced and while it is slight, the vibrations persist! It is a slight rhythmic jiggle past 70 miles per hour. It worsens with bad road surfaces.

I am running stock 220Ms with 255s in the front and 275s in the rear. I am dropped on Eibach springs and have had an alignment. I have run in a couple of HPDE events but my tires are still in great shape.

I am trying to figure out what my next area for troubleshooting should be based on this thread:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=695222

However, it would be great if anyone with my symptoms could weigh in on what I should look at next.

Thank you.

warp10 · 08-13-2012, 07:41 AM

It honestly could be the roads you drive on. There are plenty of roads around me that make the wheel vibrate and then after a section of road it stops.

ajvee · 08-13-2012, 07:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by warp10motorsports

It honestly could be the roads you drive on. There are plenty of roads around me that make the wheel vibrate and then after a section of road it stops.

I wish you were right warp, but the rhythmic nature of it leads me to believe that there are some other issues at play.

THE TECH · 08-13-2012, 08:14 AM

Could be that the wheels weren't "fixed" so well.

ajvee · 08-13-2012, 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE TECH

Could be that the wheels weren't "fixed" so well.

Well, the tire shop who did the balance rotated the wheels before balancing them and didn't detect any bends, so I would like to believe that the wheels were fixed appropriately.

THE TECH · 08-13-2012, 08:26 AM

Any idea how the wheels got bent in the first place? Are you the first owner? Possible previous accident?

arter · 08-13-2012, 08:56 AM

Ask the dealer if you could borrow a set of front wheels to confirm where the vibration is coming from. See if that eliminates the problem ( and you could switch out one to see what wheel is the worst)

ajvee · 08-13-2012, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THE TECH

Any idea how the wheels got bent in the first place? Are you the first owner? Possible previous accident?

Hmmm not sure, I've definitely hit some potholes. No prior accidents. According to the dealer, the bends were VERY minor.

ajvee · 08-13-2012, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arter

Ask the dealer if you could borrow a set of front wheels to confirm where the vibration is coming from. See if that eliminates the problem ( and you could switch out one to see what wheel is the worst)

Awesome idea! Will you be at the Glen next week?

Team Plutonium · 08-13-2012, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arter

Ask the dealer if you could borrow a set of front wheels to confirm where the vibration is coming from. See if that eliminates the problem ( and you could switch out one to see what wheel is the worst)

+1

pseto · 08-13-2012, 11:19 AM

i would take it back to the place that did the balancing and make them show you what their system says (assuming you took it someplace that has really good balancing equipment).

smmmurf · 08-13-2012, 11:38 AM

I wouldn't knowingly run bent wheels, but even slightly bent wheels can be balanced to the point of imperceptible vibration. if you had them fixed then it's probably a balancing issue. like others said try another set of wheels.

Could also be a tire, which would be detected with a road force balancer and a competent tech. again solution is to try another set of wheels and/or a competent wheel shop

ajvee · 08-13-2012, 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pseto

i would take it back to the place that did the balancing and make them show you what their system says (assuming you took it someplace that has really good balancing equipment).

I actually watched them balance the wheels so covered there

italyix · 08-13-2012, 02:04 PM

I had this problem as well and could not figure it out either. I then installed Springs and swaybars on the car, re-aligned and the vibrations are gone.

Could be alignment?

smmmurf · 08-13-2012, 02:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajvee

I actually watched them balance the wheels so covered there

was it a Hunter road force balancer? GSP9700 or whatever the model is...

mlhj83 · 08-13-2012, 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ajvee

Guys,

My steering wheel vibration woes continue with my E92 M3. Car has 39K miles with fairly new tires.

I first took the car to the dealer, who said that 3 of my 4 wheels were bent. The front right and my rear wheels. I had the bends fixed and the vibrations continued.

I then had the wheels rebalanced and while it is slight, the vibrations persist! It is a slight rhythmic jiggle past 70 miles per hour. It worsens with bad road surfaces.

I am running stock 220Ms with 255s in the front and 275s in the rear. I am dropped on Eibach springs and have had an alignment. I have run in a couple of HPDE events but my tires are still in great shape.

I am trying to figure out what my next area for troubleshooting should be based on this thread:

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=695222

However, it would be great if anyone with my symptoms could weigh in on what I should look at next.

Thank you.

Hello, I'm the OP of the thread in your post. Have a thorough read of another thread that I contributed to, especially the part about match mounting. Should eventually solve your problem.

http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=694632

08-13-2012, 07:02 AM	#1
ajvee Major Drives: None Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: None Posts: 1,377 iTrader: (12)	Guys, My steering wheel vibration woes continue with my E92 M3. Car has 39K miles with fairly new tires. I first took the car to the dealer, who said that 3 of my 4 wheels were bent. The front right and my rear wheels. I had the bends fixed and the vibrations continued. I then had the wheels rebalanced and while it is slight, the vibrations persist! It is a slight rhythmic jiggle past 70 miles per hour. It worsens with bad road surfaces. I am running stock 220Ms with 255s in the front and 275s in the rear. I am dropped on Eibach springs and have had an alignment. I have run in a couple of HPDE events but my tires are still in great shape. I am trying to figure out what my next area for troubleshooting should be based on this thread: http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=695222 However, it would be great if anyone with my symptoms could weigh in on what I should look at next. Thank you.
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THE TECH BimmerPost Supporting Vendor Drives: BPMsport 2012 E92 M3 Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Kansas Posts: 12,067 iTrader: (39)	Any idea how the wheels got bent in the first place? Are you the first owner? Possible previous accident? __________________ Check us out on Facebook at BPMsportlabs

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warp10 Lieutenant Drives: 2011 M3 Jet Black:ZCP, ZCV, ZP Join Date: May 2011 Location: Atlanta, Ga Posts: 450 iTrader: (0) Garage List 2011 M3 [5.00] 2011 28i X3 [0.00]	It honestly could be the roads you drive on. There are plenty of roads around me that make the wheel vibrate and then after a section of road it stops.

08-13-2012, 11:38 AM	#12
smmmurf Lieutenant Colonel Drives: 2009 M3 Sedan 6MT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pleasanton, CA Posts: 1,978 iTrader: (7)	I wouldn't knowingly run bent wheels, but even slightly bent wheels can be balanced to the point of imperceptible vibration. if you had them fixed then it's probably a balancing issue. like others said try another set of wheels. Could also be a tire, which would be detected with a road force balancer and a competent tech. again solution is to try another set of wheels and/or a competent wheel shop __________________ M3 Sedan LCI - AW/Black - 6MT - no moonroof - no folding seats - RAC RG63 - clear bra by Omega Werks SFR SCCA Spec Miata Champion & driving coach (NASA, NCRC, PTech, private)

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italyix First Lieutenant Drives: '08 E90 M3 Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: Bay Area Posts: 328 iTrader: (0)	I had this problem as well and could not figure it out either. I then installed Springs and swaybars on the car, re-aligned and the vibrations are gone. Could be alignment? __________________ AA Filter : BFGoodridge SS Lines : Challenge Sport X-Pipe : Vorschlag Poly Engine Mounts : TMS Subframe & Diff Bushings : KW S/O Kit : RDSport Sway Bars : MRF Eng Shaved Guide Supports : E36 Bumpstops : Mach Schnell UP : UUC SSK w/DSSR : ZHP Shift Knob : Evolve Tune Stg 2 To buy: Nitron R3, Brembo or Alcom BBK, 19" RAC Monolites COD Tag: RomanGuy9

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