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      08-06-2012, 11:27 AM   #177
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What I don't get is why they're comparing it to the Mazdaspeed3. It's the same damn car (it would be like comaring the Camaro to the Firebird pre-Pontiac-death). It's going to SUCK when modded. Torque-steer out the wazoo and serious traction problems with even mild power.
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i like the way the whole demeanor of the video changes when the m3 comes..like a scene out of transformers with a decepticon
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      08-06-2012, 03:12 PM   #179
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Haha great ending.

luv is right, really funny how the whole video changes when the M comes out.
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How was this?

I just googled it and the LA event is full
http://www.drivefocusst.com/Map.aspx
I missed it...had to pick up my car. My buddy said it was just an autocross for 2 hrs (which he finds pointless in general). Still much better than a "normal" test drive.

I think to date the best driving event I've been to was the Audi experience a couple years ago in VA. They had auto cross plus lead follow out at Summit Point.
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      08-06-2012, 04:45 PM   #181
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What I don't get is why they're comparing it to the Mazdaspeed3. It's the same damn car (it would be like comaring the Camaro to the Firebird pre-Pontiac-death). It's going to SUCK when modded. Torque-steer out the wazoo and serious traction problems with even mild power.
They are on the same platform but the Focus has improvements. Also the Focus ST has torque vectoring. This is a better car than the MS3. Engine is also different. The MS3 uses the older 2.3l while the ST uses the newer Ecoboost motors.
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      08-06-2012, 07:40 PM   #183
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4 wheels...... Standard
Power door locks......standard
Windshield....... Standard

Two other things I noticed
1. Where's her helmet
2. Where's the disclaimer about being a professional driver on a closed course
#2 was 34 sec. into the clip..
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Lol they must wanna sale that Ford bad!
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They are on the same platform but the Focus has improvements. Also the Focus ST has torque vectoring. This is a better car than the MS3. Engine is also different. The MS3 uses the older 2.3l while the ST uses the newer Ecoboost motors.
ST doesn't have torque vectoring. It only has a functionality as part of the traction control which simulates a torque vectoring differential by braking one wheel to create a similar effect.

The platform is similar to the Mazda as it was shared before. (Ford Focus, Volvo C30, V50, S40 etc., and Mazda 3 and 5).

But there are many changes compared to the Mazda so claiming it is the same car anyway is rather untrue.

Engine in the Focus is completely new and will not be shared with Mazda or Volvo on this platform.
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I would fly by that ford at the track with $$$$$$$$$$$ coming out of my M3 exhaust anyday!!!!!!
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ST doesn't have torque vectoring. It only has a functionality as part of the traction control which simulates a torque vectoring differential by braking one wheel to create a similar effect.

The platform is similar to the Mazda as it was shared before. (Ford Focus, Volvo C30, V50, S40 etc., and Mazda 3 and 5).

But there are many changes compared to the Mazda so claiming it is the same car anyway is rather untrue.

Engine in the Focus is completely new and will not be shared with Mazda or Volvo on this platform.
So how is this not torque vectoring...little confused..

http://www.ford.com/cars/focus/features/#page=Feature5
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LMAO, but I think ford played itself on that one!
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