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      07-23-2012, 01:11 PM   #23
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I wouldn't consider an IS-f. I agree with the point on its transmission being not at the same level as our M-DCT. I don't care for the styling differences involving the hood and tail pipes compared with my wife's IS 350. Also the present IS design is getting a little long in tooth.

I might consider the next gen IS-f though. I try to keep an open mind.
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      07-23-2012, 10:19 PM   #24
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The E9x does lack torque, but it'll loft around at low RPM just fine
It does get around at low RPM just fine. I wish people would stop saying 400Nm is too little torque.
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      07-23-2012, 10:20 PM   #25
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For someone who used to lament the lack of torque down low in the M3, i can tell u that u will miss the power delivery after u move on to a torque monster. I am glad i kept my M3 after getting the M5. While instant torque is addictive, it does not render the race to the redline obsolete. I realized that i appreciate the M3 more these days. Try to keep the M3 around if u can
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      07-23-2012, 10:23 PM   #26
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lemme think about that for a sec...

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HELL NO

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      07-23-2012, 11:04 PM   #27
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I will start out by stating that I had an IS F for almost 4 years and 50K miles with zero issues....and have owned 3 BMW's during the same time frame.

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While I like the Lexus brand, I think the IS-F's fit and finish is quite cheap
Just flat out wrong. Comparing the fit and finish of a BMW to the IS F and calling it cheap is laughable.

Fanboi fail.

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and the transmission is not nearly as much fun as the DC-T. The engine is nice though....
I'd agree that the tranny isn't as good as the DCT. There are multiple things that the F does equally well or better....especially the latest model.

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You are right 'better' is completely up to the owner, as so many different wants/needs. None of these would be a 'bad' choice!

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The IS-F is an excellent compromise between the M3 and C63 and will most likely prove quite a bit more reliable than those cars. Only major drawbacks that I see are the smallish interior (would be better without a sunroof) and the 8-speed tranny (one too many gears).
Agree with your post except for the 8 gears. You never see the 8th...or even 7th gear for that matter...if you're doing any kind of performance driving. It is invaluable when cruising and gets the IS F gas mileage that the C63 or M3 can only dream of.

I used to get a comfortable 26-28 mpg on the highway and 18-20 mpg in the city when not driving like a jackass.

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I went from ISF to 6sp e92 M3, and I never looked back. The only reason being I missed a manual car, otherwise I had 0 complaints about the ISF! Give it a shot, if you don't like it trade it in... resale is kick ass, good luck!
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I made a good chunk of change back when I sold my IS F a couple months ago.
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      07-23-2012, 11:11 PM   #28
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I test drove the IS-F at California Speedway track in Fontana, California...

The IS-F looks great on paper and it drives pretty good. I don't like it because of the styling, lack of wide body that the M3 has and the biggest reason - lack of manual transmission. I think the regular IS looks way better than the ISF.

If they had one that had better styling and a manual transmission, I'd seriously look into purchasing one. Lexus interior and overall reliability is great.
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      07-23-2012, 11:42 PM   #29
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no reason to take a step back.
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      07-24-2012, 12:55 AM   #30
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Yeah, I would not be apposed to switching from the M3 to the ISF. I like and respect the ISF. It may not be as fast on the track as the M3 but I don't track cars anyway. IMO, if for some reason I had to get rid of my M3 (like the wife is pressuring me to do cause she hates the 6MT), then I def would take the ISF over the C63. The C63 is a beast and I respect that but I just really don't like MBenz...... I'm trying to get the wife to hold on for a little so I can see what happens with the new M3 coming out. She said ok but has taken the keys to my new Raptor and is driving that.......
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      07-24-2012, 01:09 AM   #31
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Very interesting read...

I also have been looking into getting an ISF in the near future.
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      07-24-2012, 02:03 AM   #32
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I'm curious why, when these threads open up, it's always the C63 that people will compare to and suggest. No love for the CTS-V? If it weren't for the M that would probably be my second choice. I guess I'm a lone wolf.
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      07-24-2012, 03:40 AM   #33
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Have lost your mind, M3 to Lexus common for god sake..insult to M3 man...
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      07-24-2012, 05:17 AM   #34
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Not a fan Of the IS-F.
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      07-24-2012, 06:59 AM   #35
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Me personally liked Lexus, great quality and reliable cars, i've had 2 lexus previously and even i have an m and an audi now, i am planning to get another lexus in the near future. Not the ISF though since i already have the m, btw i think the new gen GS is very nice. You can't go wrong with IS-F, give it a shot.

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      07-24-2012, 07:27 AM   #36
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Top 5 in our direct segment that I would choose:

1.) M3 (by a slim margin)
2.) C63
3.) CTS-V (will there be an ATS-V?)
4.) IS-F
5.) RS5

I've driven them all extensively, with the exception of the RS5 since it just came out. I don't have anything bad to say about the IS-F to put it at 4. It just didn't float my boat to put it any higher...

EDIT: Watch as Volvo's upcoming S60 Polestar come in and put us all to shame lol

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      07-24-2012, 08:22 AM   #37
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Having driven both cars extensively, 6mt M3 for the win. The IS-F sounded great and that was about it iirc.
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      07-26-2012, 02:35 AM   #38
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I would get a C63 if i want a 4 door sport sedan
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      07-27-2012, 06:32 AM   #39
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Hmmmmm....sure

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      07-27-2012, 05:21 PM   #40
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CTS-V, C63, or E60 M5 would be my choices for a sedan
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Is there actually any benefit to having 8 gears in the IS-F?


Besides gas mileage?
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      07-27-2012, 07:33 PM   #42
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I'm curious why, when these threads open up, it's always the C63 that people will compare to and suggest. No love for the CTS-V? If it weren't for the M that would probably be my second choice. I guess I'm a lone wolf.
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      07-28-2012, 02:32 AM   #43
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So our cars put more torque to the wheels than a vette but you want a car with MORE torque.

I just wish guys would be accurate in their descriptions of what they want: what you are looking for a is a lazier engine that will FEEL faster and take less effort to drive fast.

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      07-28-2012, 03:15 AM   #44
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Many great cars to choose from, just up to personal preference!
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