LC2i keeps failing on me.

THE TECH · 04-02-2012, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

Great... that tells me that there was an issue with the AccuBass settings and the OEM amp output levels.

Technically, there is no difference between what this passive LOC and the LC2i are doing with those outputs, if the AccuBass feature is disabled.

True, but isn't it possible that the LC2i isn't handling the voltage as well as this new one might be? I say "might" since it hasn't been proven whether it will hold up yet.

Technic · 04-02-2012, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

True, but isn't it possible that the LC2i isn't handling the voltage as well as this new one might be? I say "might" since it hasn't been proven whether it will hold up yet.

In my experience with Audiocontrol devices I can say that they make great active line converters and DSP, but all their bass "enhancement" circuits (Epicenter, AccuBass) suck in late/modern systems.

An LC6i (no AccuBass) would have worked right off the bat in your particular case, but it would have been overkill for this particular purpose (6-channel outputs vs 2-channel outputs).

ILSMKU · 04-03-2012, 10:55 AM

UPDATE:

I got the new LOC from Technic. So far its working VERY well! I just took a extended drive into work for about an hour and no issues! It didnt catch fire, melt, smell, or anything. In fact, it wasnt even warm to touch.

I actually think this thing sounds WAY better than the LC2. Before, my car sounded "boomy" As of right now, the bass hits and just sounds cleaner to me.

So far so good! I just need a week of driving to see if the bass volume drops lower and lower like it did on the LC2.

I will keep you all posted. And big thank you to Technic!!!

Technic · 04-03-2012, 11:50 AM

Please let me know of any issues...

ILSMKU · 04-04-2012, 11:50 AM

Day two and still sounds good!

THE TECH · 04-04-2012, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by ILSMKU

Day two and still sounds good!

Good to hear! No pun intended.

coctostan · 04-28-2012, 02:02 PM

Does anybody know how to get in touch with Technics? I'm looking for the Navone LOC and some of his adapters but he hasn't responded to a PM earlier this week. Maybe he is out of town or just missed it.

Technic · 04-28-2012, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by coctostan

Does anybody know how to get in touch with Technics? I'm looking for the Navone LOC and some of his adapters but he hasn't responded to a PM earlier this week. Maybe he is out of town or just missed it.

I have been overwhelmed with PMs for the last two weeks, sorry. I will respond to your PM as soon as I can...

coctostan · 04-28-2012, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

I have been overwhelmed with PMs for the last two weeks, sorry. I will respond to your PM as soon as I can...

No sweat. Take your time. I just wanted to make sure it was the right way to contact you for your harnesses. I can get everything else ready to where I just need the harness and LOC.

ILSMKU · 05-01-2012, 10:10 PM

Update:

The Navone LOC Technic sent me is still working!!! If anyone wants to buy a LC2i from me, let me know.

Thanks.

THE TECH · 05-02-2012, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by ILSMKU

Update:

The Navone LOC Technic sent me is still working!!! If anyone wants to buy a LC2i from me, let me know.

Thanks.

Mine still working too!

ILSMKU · 07-14-2012, 05:02 PM

Well... My custom LOC melted!!! Argh! This is so frustrating to say the least!

LC2i melted.
Custom LOC melted.

What else can I try? Makes no sense that the lc2i works in other cars and not mine.

Technic · 07-14-2012, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by ILSMKU

Well... My custom LOC melted!!! Argh! This is so frustrating to say the least!

LC2i melted.
Custom LOC melted.

What else can I try? Makes no sense that the lc2i works in other cars and not mine.

Which sub amp do you have?

ILSMKU · 07-14-2012, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILSMKU

Well... My custom LOC melted!!! Argh! This is so frustrating to say the least!

LC2i melted.
Custom LOC melted.

What else can I try? Makes no sense that the lc2i works in other cars and not mine.

Which sub amp do you have?

Kenwood kac-9103 500w at 4ohm
Jl audio 12"w3 4ohm.

Technic · 07-14-2012, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ILSMKU

Kenwood kac-9103 500w at 4ohm
Jl audio 12"w3 4ohm.

I did not expect that passive LOC to last long.

The only suggestion that I can think of is to get either a 2-channel amp or to replace the Kenwood with an XD500/3 and power the underseat woofers as well. Put back the LC2i and let the OEM amp be free from any current load. Then set the LC2i to boost the bass instead of the iDrive/OEM amp.

The idea is to run the OEM amp woofer outputs as low as voltage peaks as possible. I only know of one forum member with a '12 EPS system with an LC2i without problems. It could be possible that your OEM amp is #5 at least in update since 2008, having different woofer outputs specs.

kmarei · 07-14-2012, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

I did not expect that passive LOC to last long.

The only suggestion that I can think of is to get either a 2-channel amp or to replace the Kenwood with an XD500/3 and power the underseat woofers as well. Put back the LC2i and let the OEM amp be free from any current load. Then set the LC2i to boost the bass instead of the iDrive/OEM amp.

The idea is to run the OEM amp woofer outputs as low as voltage peaks as possible. I only know of one forum member with a '12 EPS system with an LC2i without problems. It could be possible that your OEM amp is #5 at least in update since 2008, having different woofer outputs specs.

Are you referring to me?
I've had zero issues with my lc2i (touchwood)
Should I take a picture of my knob settings?
Maybe people are boosting some things too much and putting too much load on the lc2is?

Technic · 07-14-2012, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kmarei

Are you referring to me?
I've had zero issues with my lc2i (touchwood)
Should I take a picture of my knob settings?
Maybe people are boosting some things too much and putting too much load on the lc2is?

Yes, you...

kmarei · 07-14-2012, 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Technic

Yes, you...

I must be doing something wrong

ILSMKU · 07-15-2012, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Technic

Quote:

Originally Posted by ILSMKU

Kenwood kac-9103 500w at 4ohm
Jl audio 12"w3 4ohm.

I did not expect that passive LOC to last long.

The only suggestion that I can think of is to get either a 2-channel amp or to replace the Kenwood with an XD500/3 and power the underseat woofers as well. Put back the LC2i and let the OEM amp be free from any current load. Then set the LC2i to boost the bass instead of the iDrive/OEM amp.

The idea is to run the OEM amp woofer outputs as low as voltage peaks as possible. I only know of one forum member with a '12 EPS system with an LC2i without problems. It could be possible that your OEM amp is #5 at least in update since 2008, having different woofer outputs specs.

I see. I guess ill try and find another amp. I don't see much of the point considering tech is/was using a jl amp with the same issues as me. Plus my eq settings are all flat.

It's upsetting that I might have to try a clean sweep since the harness and lc2 wasn't exactly cheap...

ILSMKU · 07-15-2012, 10:48 AM

What about disabling one side of the stock amp woofer outputs to the lc2i? I think it was mentioned before. Would that limit the voltage spikes going into the lc2i?

If so do I just disable one side or do I bridge a right side positive with a left side negative?

THE TECH · 07-16-2012, 08:54 AM

The passive LOC is still working in mine just fine. I am running the JL HD750/1.

ILSMKU · 07-16-2012, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by THE TECH

The passive LOC is still working in mine just fine. I am running the JL HD750/1.

But as far as I can remember you dont drive your m3 everyday. I do...and I listen to music in it every day. So I probably have a lot more "miles" on my loc than you do.

I would monitor it at the least. Especially since Technic appears to have known it wasnt going to last long to begin with... Sigh!

04-03-2012, 10:55 AM	#91
ILSMKU BMW FTW Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: ///OC Posts: 1,482 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2013 BMW E92 6MT M3 [5.00] 2011 BMW E92 DCT M3 [4.75]	UPDATE: I got the new LOC from Technic. So far its working VERY well! I just took a extended drive into work for about an hour and no issues! It didnt catch fire, melt, smell, or anything. In fact, it wasnt even warm to touch. I actually think this thing sounds WAY better than the LC2. Before, my car sounded "boomy" As of right now, the bass hits and just sounds cleaner to me. So far so good! I just need a week of driving to see if the bass volume drops lower and lower like it did on the LC2. I will keep you all posted. And big thank you to Technic!!! __________________ ///2013 AW 6MT E92 ZCP M3/// Black 359M Wheels/BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Spoiler and Mirror Caps/Arkym AeroSport Front Lip/Turner 15MM Spacers/LUX 8 LED Halo/IND Gloss Black Grills, Gills and M3 Emblem/30% 3M Tint/BMW Interior LED/MusicCar Subwoofer Enclosure/JL Audio 12" W6 Sub and XD600:1 Amp/Euro Sunglasses Tray/Ceramic Coated Megan Racing Exhaust/AFe Dry Air Filter/RPI Intake Scoops/Euro MDM/Feature Coded.
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04-04-2012, 11:50 AM	#93
ILSMKU BMW FTW Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: ///OC Posts: 1,482 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2013 BMW E92 6MT M3 [5.00] 2011 BMW E92 DCT M3 [4.75]	Day two and still sounds good! __________________ ///2013 AW 6MT E92 ZCP M3/// Black 359M Wheels/BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Spoiler and Mirror Caps/Arkym AeroSport Front Lip/Turner 15MM Spacers/LUX 8 LED Halo/IND Gloss Black Grills, Gills and M3 Emblem/30% 3M Tint/BMW Interior LED/MusicCar Subwoofer Enclosure/JL Audio 12" W6 Sub and XD600:1 Amp/Euro Sunglasses Tray/Ceramic Coated Megan Racing Exhaust/AFe Dry Air Filter/RPI Intake Scoops/Euro MDM/Feature Coded.
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05-01-2012, 10:10 PM	#98
ILSMKU BMW FTW Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: ///OC Posts: 1,482 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2013 BMW E92 6MT M3 [5.00] 2011 BMW E92 DCT M3 [4.75]	Update: The Navone LOC Technic sent me is still working!!! If anyone wants to buy a LC2i from me, let me know. Thanks. __________________ ///2013 AW 6MT E92 ZCP M3/// Black 359M Wheels/BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Spoiler and Mirror Caps/Arkym AeroSport Front Lip/Turner 15MM Spacers/LUX 8 LED Halo/IND Gloss Black Grills, Gills and M3 Emblem/30% 3M Tint/BMW Interior LED/MusicCar Subwoofer Enclosure/JL Audio 12" W6 Sub and XD600:1 Amp/Euro Sunglasses Tray/Ceramic Coated Megan Racing Exhaust/AFe Dry Air Filter/RPI Intake Scoops/Euro MDM/Feature Coded.
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07-14-2012, 05:02 PM	#100
ILSMKU BMW FTW Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: ///OC Posts: 1,482 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2013 BMW E92 6MT M3 [5.00] 2011 BMW E92 DCT M3 [4.75]	Well... My custom LOC melted!!! Argh! This is so frustrating to say the least! LC2i melted. Custom LOC melted. What else can I try? Makes no sense that the lc2i works in other cars and not mine. __________________ ///2013 AW 6MT E92 ZCP M3/// Black 359M Wheels/BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Spoiler and Mirror Caps/Arkym AeroSport Front Lip/Turner 15MM Spacers/LUX 8 LED Halo/IND Gloss Black Grills, Gills and M3 Emblem/30% 3M Tint/BMW Interior LED/MusicCar Subwoofer Enclosure/JL Audio 12" W6 Sub and XD600:1 Amp/Euro Sunglasses Tray/Ceramic Coated Megan Racing Exhaust/AFe Dry Air Filter/RPI Intake Scoops/Euro MDM/Feature Coded.
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04-28-2012, 02:02 PM	#95
coctostan New Member Drives: 2011 E90 M3 Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Indy Posts: 13 iTrader: (1)	Does anybody know how to get in touch with Technics? I'm looking for the Navone LOC and some of his adapters but he hasn't responded to a PM earlier this week. Maybe he is out of town or just missed it.
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07-15-2012, 10:48 AM	#108
ILSMKU BMW FTW Drives: E92 M3 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: ///OC Posts: 1,482 iTrader: (4) Garage List 2013 BMW E92 6MT M3 [5.00] 2011 BMW E92 DCT M3 [4.75]	What about disabling one side of the stock amp woofer outputs to the lc2i? I think it was mentioned before. Would that limit the voltage spikes going into the lc2i? If so do I just disable one side or do I bridge a right side positive with a left side negative? __________________ ///2013 AW 6MT E92 ZCP M3/// Black 359M Wheels/BMW Performance Carbon Fiber Spoiler and Mirror Caps/Arkym AeroSport Front Lip/Turner 15MM Spacers/LUX 8 LED Halo/IND Gloss Black Grills, Gills and M3 Emblem/30% 3M Tint/BMW Interior LED/MusicCar Subwoofer Enclosure/JL Audio 12" W6 Sub and XD600:1 Amp/Euro Sunglasses Tray/Ceramic Coated Megan Racing Exhaust/AFe Dry Air Filter/RPI Intake Scoops/Euro MDM/Feature Coded.
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07-16-2012, 08:54 AM	#109
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