Houston M Club Track Day MSR-Houston 8/25

[bigjae1976]

Originally Posted by JC919

Not really a fan of counter clockwise, though I've flown backwards over the launch in both configurations. I'm up for whatever.

I think CCW is x10 better. The track was designed to be run CCW and everything makes a lot more sense. Going through the gut check flat out into 16? Way more fun! Dive bombing into the sweeper flat out (maybe a brush of the brakes)...way more fun.

Not sure why the wall scares everyone coming out of 17...just don't early APEX and don't go 10/10ths through it. I'm more worried about the wall going CW. Much faster and then the curbing that could upset your car.

The launch going CW is pretty f'ing annoying. The only thing I like better going CW is that T17 and T16 give you another opportunity to slide the car with throttle.

Plus, its easy to find days going CW. Not so easy to find days going CCW.

I digress. I'll sign up for this and skip Driver's Edge on 8/9 Sep. I'll be kicking myself if TDE goes CCW.

[Franklin Joseph]

I'm game for either direction...

[bdaddylo]

Originally Posted by bigjae1976

I think CCW is x10 better. The track was designed to be run CCW and everything makes a lot more sense. Going through the gut check flat out into 16? Way more fun! Dive bombing into the sweeper flat out (maybe a brush of the brakes)...way more fun.

Not sure why the wall scares everyone coming out of 17...just don't early APEX and don't go 10/10ths through it. I'm more worried about the wall going CW. Much faster and then the curbing that could upset your car.

The launch going CW is pretty f'ing annoying. The only thing I like better going CW is that T17 and T16 give you another opportunity to slide the car with throttle.

Plus, its easy to find days going CW. Not so easy to find days going CCW.

I digress. I'll sign up for this and skip Driver's Edge on 8/9 Sep. I'll be kicking myself if TDE goes CCW.

The reason why you find more CW days is because MSR thinks its easier/safer.

[KennyPowers]

Don't have my m3 anymore, but I'm down for this

[VMcV3y]

Since we did CW on the MSR in May, I vote CCW for August (just to balance-out the spin effect on the planet).


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[bigjae1976]

Originally Posted by bdaddylo

The reason why you find more CW days is because MSR thinks its easier/safer.

It is what it is...I'll run either direction but I don't understand this reasoning. If you are looking ahead coming through the carousel, you have to have a rubber neck to see through T1 and the wall. Then the outer edge drops in the carousel making your turn in point a little harder to find. Then the curbs on the left can upset your car and the bump in the transition can really upset your car...and you are going a lot faster.

Versus T17 which you can easily see the wall coming up to gut check. Then there's tons of room to brake into 16. If you are extra paranoid you can run really wide. Plenty of time to scrub speed. Even if you early apex 17 and the back end steps out, you're more likely to go towards the inside of the track...unless you lift. I've seen 3 spins/offs there going CCW...every car went to the inside.

Just don't early apex T17 and give it the beans. Add more throttle once you KNOW you'll make it.

[Franklin Joseph]

Originally Posted by KennyPowers

Don't have my m3 anymore, but I'm down for this

what???

u gonna bring the 135 out?

[///M Ryder]

Ok you guys, let me flip a coin and decide which way we'll run. When I post the details on the event I'll post the direction as well. We should have everything sorted out in a couple of days......Phil

[1st 5er]

Originally Posted by ///M Ryder

... decide which way we'll run. When I post the details on the event I'll post the direction as well. We should have everything sorted out in a couple of days......Phil

Consider the lives of the noobies, please.

[JC919]

Originally Posted by bigjae1976

I think CCW is x10 better. The track was designed to be run CCW and everything makes a lot more sense. Going through the gut check flat out into 16? Way more fun! Dive bombing into the sweeper flat out (maybe a brush of the brakes)...way more fun.

Not sure why the wall scares everyone coming out of 17...just don't early APEX and don't go 10/10ths through it. I'm more worried about the wall going CW. Much faster and then the curbing that could upset your car.

The launch going CW is pretty f'ing annoying. The only thing I like better going CW is that T17 and T16 give you another opportunity to slide the car with throttle.

Plus, its easy to find days going CW. Not so easy to find days going CCW.

I digress. I'll sign up for this and skip Driver's Edge on 8/9 Sep. I'll be kicking myself if TDE goes CCW.

The guys at MSR Houston are very relucant to let anyone without much track time run CCW. An inexperienced driver going head on into the wall at turn 17 would be very, very bad.

Personally, I prefer to the flow of CW to CCW, but that's just my opinion.

[bigjae1976]

Originally Posted by JC919

The guys at MSR Houston are very relucant to let anyone without much track time run CCW. An inexperienced driver going head on into the wall at turn 17 would be very, very bad.

Personally, I prefer to the flow of CW to CCW, but that's just my opinion.

I guess we can tape some mattresses to the wall...then a crash would feel like jumping on the bed when you were a little kid. See? We just need to think outside of the box.

I know I should not be the one to ask this but will shorts be OK for this event?

[KennyPowers]

Originally Posted by Franklin Joseph

what???

u gonna bring the 135 out?

yep, and yep, planning on it

bought a house and wanted a cheaper / more liveable DD

hopefully picking up an s2k or z4m in a couple years time...

you getting an e46 m3?

[///M Ryder]

Originally Posted by 1st 5er

Consider the lives of the noobies, please.

You have the advantage here.....if you've never run either way you won't know the difference. It's the guys that have their laps dialed in that will suffer. I'm leaning CCW but let's see what happens............Phil

[Redracer5]

This noob will drive in either direction. Count me in.

[///M Ryder]

Originally Posted by Redracer5

This noob will drive in either direction. Count me in.

You've been counted........Phil

[KennyPowers]

*registered

[///M Ryder]

for update and details......see post #1

[bigjae1976]

Just registered on the site...

What time will we start?

[dveluru]

Are non m convertibles allowed?

[bigjae1976]

Normally, convertibles need to have either a hard top or a functioniing automatic roll bar (pop up style).

Not sure what specifically is required with the M Club or MSRH.

[ThunderMoose]

Phil - I'm interested in check ride since I have never driven CCW

[TXmtrhed]

I'm in.