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[Dave07997S]

Originally Posted by docsdoc

So far I've been satisfied with my stock Pirelli P zeros on my 2012 E93

The PZeros are an excellent tire. They just don't last very long.

Dave

[amirz1000]

Originally Posted by Dave07997S

The PZeros are an excellent tire. They just don't last very long.

Dave

+1. Had them on my C55 and burned right through them. They had great traction though for sure.

[tibra1]

Originally Posted by Dave07997S

The PZeros are an excellent tire. They just don't last very long.

Dave

This is true my rears are ~ 40% after only 6K miles.. fronts are about 70%

[smmmurf]

I actually love my PS2's. I have a set of stock sized PSS's and found them to be too grippy and to ride harsher So I switched back to PS2's and put the PSS on something else

Great tires for normal drivers but for people who enjoy a skid here and there on stock power/stock suspension, a little overkill

Rain performance is CRAZY good on the PSS's tho

[LarThaL]

Originally Posted by smmmurf

I actually love my PS2's. I have a set of stock sized PSS's and found them to be too grippy and to ride harsher So I switched back to PS2's and put the PSS on something else

Great tires for normal drivers but for people who enjoy a skid here and there on stock power/stock suspension, a little overkill

Rain performance is CRAZY good on the PSS's tho

Funny how different our perceptions can be. I find the stock sized PSS to be just right in the balance between grip and being able to get the back end out when you really want to. With the PSS, you have to actually try, however. With the Contis, it required no real effort at all.

[ObviousMan]

Originally Posted by M3RD

I guess they did this since the difference is ranging from $350- to almost $500- for a set. Also they know that some of us will change them if we are going to track.

I for one am happy with mine and as a rule will change to Michelin once I need new tires.

you can compare the three sets on TireRack for those of you not familiar I have some screen shots here.

Fail on the comparison...the Pilot Sport Cup is a completely different animal than the new Pilot Super Sport. Sport Cup is much more of a dedicated track tire.

[bigjae1976]

The Conti's are likely a cost saver for BMW. The PDC cars all have conti's on them. I asked about it and they said it was a cost issue since they spend over $1M/yr on tires. So they run the Conti's for the most part instead of the Michelins.

Originally Posted by ObviousMan

Fail on the comparison...the Pilot Sport Cup is a completely different animal than the new Pilot Super Sport. Sport Cup is much more of a dedicated track tire.

Agreed. The pilot cup is an R-Comp with some grooves they call tread to make it DOT legal. The PSS is no where near that.

[PINHEAD]

I had the contis and took them to the track, not bad but not as good as the Michelins, even the PSS which I tried as well.
Most M3 owners wouldn't know the difference if they didn't look at which tire they had, who you trying to fool? Somehow we M3 drivers turned pro and drive our cars at the limit on euro delivery to find out the potential of summer performance tires? Yes the Michelins are better, but Pirelli Corsa is ever better yet. Unless you are driving 10/10, for fuck sakes it doesn't matter.

*rolleye*

[LarThaL]

Originally Posted by PINHEAD

I had the contis and took them to the track, not bad but not as good as the Michelins, even the PSS which I tried as well.
Most M3 owners wouldn't know the difference if they didn't look at which tire they had, who you trying to fool? Somehow we M3 drivers turned pro and drive our cars at the limit on euro delivery to find out the potential of summer performance tires? Yes the Michelins are better, but Pirelli Corsa is ever better yet. Unless you are driving 10/10, for fuck sakes it doesn't matter.

*rolleye*

Disagree. I found a huge difference between the Conti 3 and the PSS with regards to traction. This wasn't even on the track, but with moderately aggressive street driving. Probably about 7/10 overall. DSC interferes much less when on and there is more grip with DSC off.

[PINHEAD]

Originally Posted by LarThaL

Disagree. I found a huge difference between the Conti 3 and the PSS with regards to traction. This wasn't even on the track, but with moderately aggressive street driving. Probably about 7/10 overall. DSC interferes much less when on and there is more grip with DSC off.

then you should change your PSS for some Pirelli Corsa cuz PSS is shit compared to the pirellis
nah..better yet get the Trofeo cuz u know...M3 drivers are all F1 racers.

[llis]

I agree, hated the Contis. Switched to Yokohama Advan AD08s and it was a different car. Seriously. Have ridden in M3s with PS2s and PSSs. Also much better than the Contis imho.

[smmmurf]

Originally Posted by bigjae1976

The Conti's are likely a cost saver for BMW. The PDC cars all have conti's on them. I asked about it and they said it was a cost issue since they spend over $1M/yr on tires. So they run the Conti's for the most part instead of the Michelins.



Agreed. The pilot cup is an R-Comp with some grooves they call tread to make it DOT legal. The PSS is no where near that.

However the grip level delta between the PSS and PSC is closer than ever, and the PSS has better grip at street temperatures, which is frankly quite amazing

[jamze132]

I have the Conti's on mine and my DSC is always engaging. I hate it but am scared to turn it off. Don't really want to hit a guard rail. If I were in the US, I wouldn't give a crap, but in Germany on the autobahn, I take some exits at a high rate of speed and need the grip, which isn't really there with the Conti's that came with my baby.

I do hear good things about the Conti ExtremeContact DW though.