Solid subframe bushings - Page 3

italyix · 07-01-2012, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by vinniechin

Hey all,

Very interested if there are any updates to this? Should the diff bushings be done too in conjunction with the subframe or just one over the other? Thanks.

Vin

Might as well...thats what Im doing

vinniechin · 07-02-2012, 06:48 PM

Let us know your feedback please. Can anyone comment on this mod? Thanks in advance.

vinniechin · 07-04-2012, 11:54 AM

I called Turner about this mod and the diff bushings and they thought for a predominantly street driven car with limited track time, it wasn't worth it...very honest of them, but I like the preventative measures as well and the additional feedback in steering with minimal increase in NVH would be appealing to me (considering this is something you would experience every time you drive the car). Any one with feed back directly on just these mod would be great no matter how subjective it is. The motor/trans bushings which I know from experience makes for a miserable DD. Thanks all.

Vin

HP Autowerks · 07-04-2012, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vinniechin

Let us know your feedback please. Can anyone comment on this mod? Thanks in advance.

Gave my thoughts on post#30. I wouldn't do it on a DD that only sees a few track days a year. I have installed and driven many E8x and E9x chassis with solid subframe bushings, it's not for a street car, but that is just my opinion

vinniechin · 07-04-2012, 09:03 PM

I indeed read your post and thank you for the reiteration. Since I understand this feeling is subjective, I was just hoping I could get a few other/more opinions on the mod since there were others thinking it wouldn't be so bad. I appreciate the feedback and value your thoughts given your reputation and experience on the boards. I hope you understand.

Respectfully,
Vin

HP Autowerks · 07-04-2012, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by vinniechin

I indeed read your post and thank you for the reiteration. Since I understand this feeling is subjective, I was just hoping I could get a few other/more opinions on the mod since there were others thinking it wouldn't be so bad. I appreciate the feedback and value your thoughts given your reputation and experience on the boards. I hope you understand.

Respectfully,
Vin

All the guys I did the solid subframe bushings for aren't on the forums so they can't give you any feedbacks here. However, I am sure many others have done it here and will be happy to comment.

italyix · 07-05-2012, 12:57 AM

As soon as my challenge x-pipe comes in, I will also have a shop install the diff and subframe bushings from turner and I will be able to report back. I have the delrin ones, not the full aluminum. I am hoping to have this done by mid July.

tres · 07-05-2012, 08:16 AM

I have the turner solid delrin bushings on my IS and the rear end feels solid and planted and the road noise is very minimal if any, depends on your sensitivity tolerance.

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Originally Posted by italyix

As soon as my challenge x-pipe comes in, I will also have a shop install the diff and subframe bushings from turner and I will be able to report back. I have the delrin ones, not the full aluminum. I am hoping to have this done by mid July.

italyix · 07-05-2012, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by tres

I have the turner solid delrin bushings on my IS and the rear end feels solid and planted and the road noise is very minimal if any, depends on your sensitivity tolerance.

Thank you. My previous DD was an Evo IX with track suspension (12kg F and 16Kg R spring rates) along with full engine mounts and rear suspension mounts. The car did not vibrate at all.

Z K · 07-05-2012, 02:45 PM

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Originally Posted by italyix

Thank you. My previous DD was an Evo IX with track suspension (12kg F and 16Kg R spring rates) along with full engine mounts and rear suspension mounts. The car did not vibrate at all.

Cool, another previous Evo owner in the bay area! I had 2 Evos prior to the M3. I think you'd have to do a lot to an M3 to even approach the harshness of the Evo.

tres · 07-05-2012, 05:05 PM

I had a 2000 eclipse 4g64 with an evo head. with track suspension also and poly mounts the only vibration i had was when I upgraded the transmission mounts and it only occurred while the car idled.

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Originally Posted by italyix

Thank you. My previous DD was an Evo IX with track suspension (12kg F and 16Kg R spring rates) along with full engine mounts and rear suspension mounts. The car did not vibrate at all.

italyix · 07-06-2012, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Z K

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Originally Posted by italyix

Thank you. My previous DD was an Evo IX with track suspension (12kg F and 16Kg R spring rates) along with full engine mounts and rear suspension mounts. The car did not vibrate at all.

Cool, another previous Evo owner in the bay area! I had 2 Evos prior to the M3. I think you'd have to do a lot to an M3 to even approach the harshness of the Evo.

Even stock the Evo was a rough ride...but I found is pleasantly comfortable. I do not feel as connected as I did with the Evo, as the M is slightly too soft for my taste, hence the modifications I'm doing to it.

neilvosko · 07-24-2012, 10:48 PM

any update on solid SubFrame bushings? how much/long was the diff bushing install?

neilvosko · 07-24-2012, 11:05 PM

solid = track
soft, compliant = street

Autobahn335i · 07-25-2012, 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by neilvosko

any update on solid SubFrame bushings? how much/long was the diff bushing install?

I replaced the rear differential bushing on my car and it's quite a bit of work. Space is limited and to be able to push the oem bushing out, you need to lower the diff and the subframe a bit.

neilvosko · 07-25-2012, 07:04 AM

Thanks, sounds like its not worth it as standalone update ( i allready have the m3 subframe bushings), maybe will wait to get subframe + diff changed out with delrin

Autobahn335i · 07-25-2012, 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by neilvosko

Thanks, sounds like its not worth it as standalone update ( i allready have the m3 subframe bushings), maybe will wait to get subframe + diff changed out with delrin

Yes getting this done with other work requiring to lower the subframe makes sense.

italyix · 07-25-2012, 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by neilvosko

any update on solid SubFrame bushings? how much/long was the diff bushing install?

Getting this done Saturday.

neilvosko · 07-26-2012, 04:38 PM

Cool. good luck.

Z K · 07-26-2012, 04:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by italyix

Even stock the Evo was a rough ride...but I found is pleasantly comfortable. I do not feel as connected as I did with the Evo, as the M is slightly too soft for my taste, hence the modifications I'm doing to it.

Yeah, I totally know what you are feeling!

I changed from the stock suspension to KW V3s and it feels so much more connected now. The stock suspension is very comfort oriented and mutes the feeling.

buddyguypal · 08-06-2012, 12:07 PM

Any updates from you guys with the installs coming up?

italyix · 08-06-2012, 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Lights407

Any updates from you guys with the installs coming up?

YES! Expect it tonight on my original thread. I still need to snap a few pics of the bushings that came out, then I will write a full review of all the parts installed.

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07-02-2012, 06:48 PM	#46
vinniechin Vinnie Drives: E93 Space Gray DCT Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 44 iTrader: (0)	Let us know your feedback please. Can anyone comment on this mod? Thanks in advance.

07-04-2012, 11:54 AM	#47
vinniechin Vinnie Drives: E93 Space Gray DCT Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 44 iTrader: (0)	I called Turner about this mod and the diff bushings and they thought for a predominantly street driven car with limited track time, it wasn't worth it...very honest of them, but I like the preventative measures as well and the additional feedback in steering with minimal increase in NVH would be appealing to me (considering this is something you would experience every time you drive the car). Any one with feed back directly on just these mod would be great no matter how subjective it is. The motor/trans bushings which I know from experience makes for a miserable DD. Thanks all. Vin

07-04-2012, 09:03 PM	#49
vinniechin Vinnie Drives: E93 Space Gray DCT Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: Northern NJ Posts: 44 iTrader: (0)	I indeed read your post and thank you for the reiteration. Since I understand this feeling is subjective, I was just hoping I could get a few other/more opinions on the mod since there were others thinking it wouldn't be so bad. I appreciate the feedback and value your thoughts given your reputation and experience on the boards. I hope you understand. Respectfully, Vin

07-24-2012, 10:48 PM	#57
neilvosko Major Drives: 335i e92 FBO Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: miami Posts: 1,174 iTrader: (12)	any update on solid SubFrame bushings? how much/long was the diff bushing install?

07-24-2012, 11:05 PM	#58
neilvosko Major Drives: 335i e92 FBO Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: miami Posts: 1,174 iTrader: (12)	solid = track soft, compliant = street

07-25-2012, 07:04 AM	#60
neilvosko Major Drives: 335i e92 FBO Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: miami Posts: 1,174 iTrader: (12)	Thanks, sounds like its not worth it as standalone update ( i allready have the m3 subframe bushings), maybe will wait to get subframe + diff changed out with delrin

07-26-2012, 04:38 PM	#63
neilvosko Major Drives: 335i e92 FBO Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: miami Posts: 1,174 iTrader: (12)	Cool. good luck.

08-06-2012, 12:07 PM	#65
buddyguypal Riff Raff Drives: 2011 e92 M3 Join Date: Feb 2010 Location: East Bay Posts: 333 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2011 e92 M3 [0.00] 2004 325Ci [0.00]	Any updates from you guys with the installs coming up?