Serious advice for 2011 M3 owners - change your Continental Contisport 3 tires

amirz1000 · 07-04-2012, 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave07997S

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Originally Posted by docsdoc

So far I've been satisfied with my stock Pirelli P zeros on my 2012 E93

The PZeros are an excellent tire. They just don't last very long.

Dave

+1. Had them on my C55 and burned right through them. They had great traction though for sure.

tibra1 · 07-04-2012, 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Dave07997S

The PZeros are an excellent tire. They just don't last very long.

Dave

This is true my rears are ~ 40% after only 6K miles.. fronts are about 70%

smmmurf · 07-04-2012, 10:06 PM

I actually love my PS2's. I have a set of stock sized PSS's and found them to be too grippy and to ride harsher

So I switched back to PS2's and put the PSS on something else

Great tires for normal drivers but for people who enjoy a skid here and there on stock power/stock suspension, a little overkill

Rain performance is CRAZY good on the PSS's tho

LarThaL · 07-05-2012, 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by smmmurf

I actually love my PS2's. I have a set of stock sized PSS's and found them to be too grippy and to ride harsher

So I switched back to PS2's and put the PSS on something else

Great tires for normal drivers but for people who enjoy a skid here and there on stock power/stock suspension, a little overkill

Rain performance is CRAZY good on the PSS's tho

Funny how different our perceptions can be. I find the stock sized PSS to be just right in the balance between grip and being able to get the back end out when you really want to. With the PSS, you have to actually try, however. With the Contis, it required no real effort at all.

ObviousMan · 07-08-2012, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by M3RD

I guess they did this since the difference is ranging from $350- to almost $500- for a set. Also they know that some of us will change them if we are going to track.

I for one am happy with mine and as a rule will change to Michelin once I need new tires.

you can compare the three sets on TireRack for those of you not familiar I have some screen shots here.

Fail on the comparison...the Pilot Sport Cup is a completely different animal than the new Pilot Super Sport. Sport Cup is much more of a dedicated track tire.

bigjae1976 · 07-08-2012, 07:13 PM

The Conti's are likely a cost saver for BMW. The PDC cars all have conti's on them. I asked about it and they said it was a cost issue since they spend over $1M/yr on tires. So they run the Conti's for the most part instead of the Michelins.

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Fail on the comparison...the Pilot Sport Cup is a completely different animal than the new Pilot Super Sport. Sport Cup is much more of a dedicated track tire.

Agreed. The pilot cup is an R-Comp with some grooves they call tread to make it DOT legal. The PSS is no where near that.

PINHEAD · 07-08-2012, 07:48 PM

I had the contis and took them to the track, not bad but not as good as the Michelins, even the PSS which I tried as well.
Most M3 owners wouldn't know the difference if they didn't look at which tire they had, who you trying to fool? Somehow we M3 drivers turned pro and drive our cars at the limit on euro delivery to find out the potential of summer performance tires? Yes the Michelins are better, but Pirelli Corsa is ever better yet. Unless you are driving 10/10, for fuck sakes it doesn't matter.

*rolleye*

LarThaL · 07-08-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by PINHEAD

I had the contis and took them to the track, not bad but not as good as the Michelins, even the PSS which I tried as well.
Most M3 owners wouldn't know the difference if they didn't look at which tire they had, who you trying to fool? Somehow we M3 drivers turned pro and drive our cars at the limit on euro delivery to find out the potential of summer performance tires? Yes the Michelins are better, but Pirelli Corsa is ever better yet. Unless you are driving 10/10, for fuck sakes it doesn't matter.

*rolleye*

Disagree. I found a huge difference between the Conti 3 and the PSS with regards to traction. This wasn't even on the track, but with moderately aggressive street driving. Probably about 7/10 overall. DSC interferes much less when on and there is more grip with DSC off.

PINHEAD · 07-09-2012, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LarThaL

Disagree. I found a huge difference between the Conti 3 and the PSS with regards to traction. This wasn't even on the track, but with moderately aggressive street driving. Probably about 7/10 overall. DSC interferes much less when on and there is more grip with DSC off.

then you should change your PSS for some Pirelli Corsa cuz PSS is shit compared to the pirellis
nah..better yet get the Trofeo cuz u know...M3 drivers are all F1 racers.

llis · 07-10-2012, 12:36 PM

I agree, hated the Contis. Switched to Yokohama Advan AD08s and it was a different car. Seriously. Have ridden in M3s with PS2s and PSSs. Also much better than the Contis imho.

smmmurf · 07-10-2012, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjae1976

The Conti's are likely a cost saver for BMW. The PDC cars all have conti's on them. I asked about it and they said it was a cost issue since they spend over $1M/yr on tires. So they run the Conti's for the most part instead of the Michelins.

Agreed. The pilot cup is an R-Comp with some grooves they call tread to make it DOT legal. The PSS is no where near that.

However the grip level delta between the PSS and PSC is closer than ever, and the PSS has better grip at street temperatures, which is frankly quite amazing

jamze132 · 07-12-2012, 08:30 AM

I have the Conti's on mine and my DSC is always engaging. I hate it but am scared to turn it off. Don't really want to hit a guard rail. If I were in the US, I wouldn't give a crap, but in Germany on the autobahn, I take some exits at a high rate of speed and need the grip, which isn't really there with the Conti's that came with my baby.

I do hear good things about the Conti ExtremeContact DW though.

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smmmurf Colonel Drives: 2009 M3 Sedan 6MT Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Pleasanton, CA Posts: 2,084 iTrader: (7)	I actually love my PS2's. I have a set of stock sized PSS's and found them to be too grippy and to ride harsher So I switched back to PS2's and put the PSS on something else Great tires for normal drivers but for people who enjoy a skid here and there on stock power/stock suspension, a little overkill Rain performance is CRAZY good on the PSS's tho __________________ M3 Sedan LCI - AW/Black - 6MT - no moonroof - no folding seats - RAC RG63 - clear bra by Omega Werks
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PINHEAD Motorsport Passion!!! Drives: E92M3/997.2RS Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 975 iTrader: (8)	I had the contis and took them to the track, not bad but not as good as the Michelins, even the PSS which I tried as well. Most M3 owners wouldn't know the difference if they didn't look at which tire they had, who you trying to fool? Somehow we M3 drivers turned pro and drive our cars at the limit on euro delivery to find out the potential of summer performance tires? Yes the Michelins are better, but Pirelli Corsa is ever better yet. Unless you are driving 10/10, for fuck sakes it doesn't matter. rolleye __________________
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llis octane chick Drives: Ms Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: Colorado Posts: 1,131 iTrader: (1) Garage List 2003 BMW M5 [0.00] 2002 BMW 530i (fs) [0.00] 2013 BMW M3 [5.00]	I agree, hated the Contis. Switched to Yokohama Advan AD08s and it was a different car. Seriously. Have ridden in M3s with PS2s and PSSs. Also much better than the Contis imho. __________________ 2013 E92 ///M3 ZCP 6MT Speed Yellow • 2003 E39 ///M5
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07-12-2012, 08:30 AM	#56
jamze132 Second Lieutenant Drives: 2011 X6M Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: Wiesbaden, Germany Posts: 257 iTrader: (0)	I have the Conti's on mine and my DSC is always engaging. I hate it but am scared to turn it off. Don't really want to hit a guard rail. If I were in the US, I wouldn't give a crap, but in Germany on the autobahn, I take some exits at a high rate of speed and need the grip, which isn't really there with the Conti's that came with my baby. I do hear good things about the Conti ExtremeContact DW though.
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