2013 Shelby GT500 < 2012 Camaro ZL1 < BMW M3?

[FR01]

http://www.automobilemag.com/reviews..._shelby_gt500/

Based on this HP isn't everything. Does that mean our M3s would've topped this out? I know gearing played a huge role in the GT500's time. Yet, it did have considerable body roll.

Anyone else agree?

[X2Board]

The ZL1 appears to be well sorted out, I will take superior handling over extra power, all day long, unless I was just drag racing.

[klammer]

I would agree. If I can run a 1:48 on gingerman in less than ideal conditions (damp, cold, non race pads) on a lightly modded M3, I would think in the hands of a pro and with the huge power advantages, the M would be embarrassed, guess not. As always it's not the size, it's how you use it :

[FR01]

Originally Posted by klammer

I would agree. If I can run a 1:48 on gingerman in less than ideal conditions (damp, cold, non race pads) on a lightly modded M3, I would think in the hands of a pro and with the huge power advantages, the M would be embarrassed, guess not. As always it's not the size, it's how you use it :

Yea I would have thought that the more basic handling would have been compensated for by the power...

[Onurleft]

Track a 4300+lb car with the driver and let me know how much you like paying for tires and brakes.

The ZL1 will probably out lap the new M3 (7:41 Ring time) but the porker will eat bigger/wider tires and and larger brake pads in a fraction of the time of it's much lighter rivals

[Arben72]

The m3 does the quarter mile in about the same time as the zl1. Isn't that like the home of muscle cars like those... If it was my money I'd go for a gt500. Actually more likely I'd go for Godzilla as a second car.

[S.hasan546]

For the track, Boss 302 over all of them.

[Erhan]

Originally Posted by S.hasan546

For the track, Boss 302S over all of them.

Corrected.

[xsboost]

Here are the lap time records for Leguna Seca:

13. Porsche 911 Turbo 1:37.80 133 '09 500 / 1570
14. Ford Shelby GT500 1:38.69 131 '12 558 / 1733 Randy Pobst
15. Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 1:38.69 131 13 659 / 1750 Randy Pobst
16. Ford Shelby GT500 1:38.70 131 '12 558 / 1733 Randy Pobst
17. Mercedes SLS AMG 1:38.82 131 '10 571 / 1620
18. Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1:39.18 131 '12 588 / 1838 Randy Pobst
19. Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS 1:39.50 130 '12 443 / 1652
20. Porsche 911 GT3 1:39.52 130 '06 415 / 1395
21. Porsche 911 Turbo 1:39.89 130 '06 480 / 1585
22. Porsche 911 Turbo S

http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna_seca.html

If you take a look at the time for the 2012 and 2013 Selby GT500, it's identical.....extra power didn't make a difference.

[muskamatt]

Originally Posted by xsboost

Here are the lap time records for Leguna Seca:

13. Porsche 911 Turbo 1:37.80 133 '09 500 / 1570
14. Ford Shelby GT500 1:38.69 131 '12 558 / 1733 Randy Pobst
15. Ford Mustang Shelby GT500 1:38.69 131 13 659 / 1750 Randy Pobst
16. Ford Shelby GT500 1:38.70 131 '12 558 / 1733 Randy Pobst
17. Mercedes SLS AMG 1:38.82 131 '10 571 / 1620
18. Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 1:39.18 131 '12 588 / 1838 Randy Pobst
19. Ford Mustang Boss 302 LS 1:39.50 130 '12 443 / 1652
20. Porsche 911 GT3 1:39.52 130 '06 415 / 1395
21. Porsche 911 Turbo 1:39.89 130 '06 480 / 1585
22. Porsche 911 Turbo S

http://www.fastestlaps.com/tracks/laguna_seca.html

If you take a look at the time for the 2012 and 2013 Selby GT500, it's identical.....extra power didn't make a difference.

This just seems like another win for the Boss. Much less $$$ more cash for track days!