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      05-30-2012, 06:05 AM   #551
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When people use the term, "walk", either they're talking quarter mile or street. Very seldom do I hear that lingo for track/course racing. Maybe, " overtaken" etc.
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      05-30-2012, 08:41 AM   #552
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At least they have an option though.
Yes it does but the point is that even the most traditional stick only sports car will soon be offering a paddle option. I think Ferrari is all paddle and Lambo is mostly. The days of a heel toe are coming to a close.
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      05-30-2012, 10:53 AM   #553
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well if you have been at any tighter tracks you will know that a lot of lesser cars as in lesser weight will make you feel pretty bad about the m3. try a spec miata or something of the sort.
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      05-30-2012, 11:06 AM   #554
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No doubt manual is more involving and more fun, but on the track, DCT is king. As well as in the 1/4 mile.
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      05-30-2012, 11:27 AM   #555
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No doubt manual is more involving and more fun, but on the track, DCT is king. As well as in the 1/4 mile.
Probably, but IMO the ultimate goal is still to have the most fun , not to be the fastest !
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well if you have been at any tighter tracks you will know that a lot of lesser cars as in lesser weight will make you feel pretty bad about the m3. try a spec miata or something of the sort.
Most people who post here have never even been to a track. I bet they haven't heard of spec miata
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When people use the term, "walk", either they're talking quarter mile or street. Very seldom do I hear that lingo for track/course racing. Maybe, " overtaken" etc.
From a dig foool!!!


Regarding the GT-R and Transmission and what not.

Here are my thoughts:

I think it would have been foolish for Nissan to equip or allow for a manual option in the GT-R, it would go against their entire purpose, they are building a cutting edge car. To equip it with old technology would be foolish.

From a performance aspect, launching an AWD car is not easy, knowing this alone (From Nissan's perspective) it would be an easy choice to NOT provide a manual option. Dual Clutch technology also provides a SIGNIFICANT advantage over it's American competition.

I personally don't think you can ding the GT-R or Nissan for not offering a manual option.
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      05-30-2012, 02:04 PM   #558
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From a dig foool!!!


Regarding the GT-R and Transmission and what not.

Here are my thoughts:

I think it would have been foolish for Nissan to equip or allow for a manual option in the GT-R, it would go against their entire purpose, they are building a cutting edge car. To equip it with old technology would be foolish.

From a performance aspect, launching an AWD car is not easy, knowing this alone (From Nissan's perspective) it would be an easy choice to NOT provide a manual option. Dual Clutch technology also provides a SIGNIFICANT advantage over it's American competition.

I personally don't think you can ding the GT-R or Nissan for not offering a manual option.
At least with a manual , you could launch as much as you want without being afraid that you might brake your tranny wich is not covered anymore by the warranty since you disactivated the VDC to do a perfect launch! To me a cutting edge car is a car with a tranny strong enough to use its launch mode!

Also, there's nothing hard in launching a AWD car, specially one with that much power! I've seen plenty of people having no trouble doing great launchs with Audi A4s 1.8t with big laggy turbos, those could be a challenge but a GT-R, not!

Finally , IMO , manual gearbox is not old technology, it's fun technology!
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At least with a manuel , you could launch as much as you want without being afraid that you might brake your tranny wich is not covered anymore by the warranty since you disactivated the VDC to do a perfect launch! To me a cutting edge car is a car with a tranny strong enough to use its launch mode!

Also, there's nothing hard in launching a AWD car, specially one with that much power! I've seen plenty of people having no trouble doing great launchs with Audi A4s 1.8t with big laggy turbos, those could be a challenge but a GT-R, not!

Finally , IMO , manuel gearbox is not old technology, it's fun technology!
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      05-30-2012, 10:32 PM   #561
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I wasn't suggesting you buy one. I was indicating that you will get your ass handed to you by one on the track.
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From a dig foool!!!


Regarding the GT-R and Transmission and what not.

Here are my thoughts:

I think it would have been foolish for Nissan to equip or allow for a manual option in the GT-R, it would go against their entire purpose, they are building a cutting edge car. To equip it with old technology would be foolish.

From a performance aspect, launching an AWD car is not easy, knowing this alone (From Nissan's perspective) it would be an easy choice to NOT provide a manual option. Dual Clutch technology also provides a SIGNIFICANT advantage over it's American competition.

I personally don't think you can ding the GT-R or Nissan for not offering a manual option.
Ech....i....agree...

The world is coming to an end.
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      06-04-2012, 01:54 PM   #563
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Did the OP ever buy his GTR?
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Ech....i....agree...

The world is coming to an end.
You will see the light one day - at the end of the day, I think the GT-R is an amazing car, with the combination of performance and price, it would be hard to argue otherwise.
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      06-04-2012, 08:03 PM   #565
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Did the OP ever buy his GTR?
hello - OP here! and yes I got my GTR... and have never looked back.. the GTR is a beast! However the M3 is an awesome car too..

here's a mini-comparo I did - http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....with-my-e92-m3
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      06-06-2012, 01:36 PM   #566
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BMW just patented a 7-speed manual transmission. Where's the guys who said manual transmission is on its way out..... Lol
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      06-06-2012, 04:51 PM   #567
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BMW just patented a 7-speed manual transmission. Where's the guys who said manual transmission is on its way out..... Lol


And rumor has it that the 991 GT3 will be PDK only

http://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/sc...gt3-get-450bhp

Sorry but the manual is dying
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Who cares. The 911 Turbo is faster. Doh! Manual all day!
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      06-06-2012, 05:32 PM   #569
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I really doubt the GT3 will be PDK ONLY. Up until recently, it wasn't even confirmed if PDK would be offered, let alone be the only transmission.
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Who cares. The 911 Turbo is faster. Doh! Manual all day!
Faster than what?
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Faster than what?
Every 911 variant to date.
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if you want a GTR, get it now. I Can see the price keep going higher....not lower.

I mean the 991 base is pushing 100k with a few options and 991 S is hitting 130k easily with some must have option. The GTR is still one hell of a bargain. The new 991 turbo is going to be 170k or more IMO.

you want a base 991 or GTR. no way in hell i pick the base 991 over the GTR for the same price.
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