Please, Please talk me out of a GTR - Page 26

1MOREMOD · 05-29-2012, 10:59 PM

yeah what he said.

Cdnrockies · 05-29-2012, 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chriszeh

yeah what he said.

Blah, blah, blah.

In before the 999999th GTR thread of the year is closed.

1MOREMOD · 05-29-2012, 11:04 PM

yes sir just under the wire. 335s are best though. read the rest of the thread i been in it all the way. vivek is friend of mine and been in his gtr. damn fast car when tuned up!

Cdnrockies · 05-29-2012, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by chriszeh

yes sir just under the wire. 335s are best though. read the rest of the thread i been in it all the way. vivek is friend of mine and been in his gtr. damn fast car when tuned up!

No DCT is the most bestest.

Jealous....tuned GT R.

dustman · 05-29-2012, 11:17 PM

Who said "few" and who said "illegal racing"? I suggested neither.
I've driven quite a bit on track.
Point was, it sucks to have your beast bested by a far lesser ride, regardless of marque/make.
Oh, and I owned a 335 previously. Incredible bang for the buck. As for the new '12 335...pass.

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Originally Posted by 48Laws

I don't see how a few seconds of illegal racing on public roads is enough for someone to be disappointed in a car. My co-worker has a 650WHP '84 Supra. He kills everyone. I don't take this stuff too seriously. It's all about preference and a GT-R would've been considered had it come equipped with a manual tranny, But there will always be a faster car out there and modding can negate any car's stock performance.

1MOREMOD · 05-30-2012, 01:23 AM

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Originally Posted by dustman

Who said "few" and who said "illegal racing"? I suggested neither.
I've driven quite a bit on track.
Point was, it sucks to have your beast bested by a far lesser ride, regardless of marque/make.
Oh, and I owned a 335 previously. Incredible bang for the buck. As for the new '12 335...pass.

well if you have been at any tighter tracks you will know that a lot of lesser cars as in lesser weight will make you feel pretty bad about the m3. try a spec miata or something of the sort.

48Laws · 05-30-2012, 06:05 AM

When people use the term, "walk", either they're talking quarter mile or street. Very seldom do I hear that lingo for track/course racing. Maybe, " overtaken" etc.

997GT3 · 05-30-2012, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Kensta335

At least they have an option though.

Yes it does but the point is that even the most traditional stick only sports car will soon be offering a paddle option. I think Ferrari is all paddle and Lambo is mostly. The days of a heel toe are coming to a close.

dustman · 05-30-2012, 10:53 AM

No thanks. I'm good.

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Originally Posted by chriszeh

well if you have been at any tighter tracks you will know that a lot of lesser cars as in lesser weight will make you feel pretty bad about the m3. try a spec miata or something of the sort.

konaforever · 05-30-2012, 11:06 AM

No doubt manual is more involving and more fun, but on the track, DCT is king. As well as in the 1/4 mile.

Alex07M3 · 05-30-2012, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by konaforever

No doubt manual is more involving and more fun, but on the track, DCT is king. As well as in the 1/4 mile.

Probably, but IMO the ultimate goal is still to have the most fun , not to be the fastest !

Nine · 05-30-2012, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by chriszeh

well if you have been at any tighter tracks you will know that a lot of lesser cars as in lesser weight will make you feel pretty bad about the m3. try a spec miata or something of the sort.

Most people who post here have never even been to a track.

I bet they haven't heard of spec miata

Nine · 05-30-2012, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by 48Laws

When people use the term, "walk", either they're talking quarter mile or street. Very seldom do I hear that lingo for track/course racing. Maybe, " overtaken" etc.

From a dig foool!!!

Regarding the GT-R and Transmission and what not.

Here are my thoughts:

I think it would have been foolish for Nissan to equip or allow for a manual option in the GT-R, it would go against their entire purpose, they are building a cutting edge car. To equip it with old technology would be foolish.

From a performance aspect, launching an AWD car is not easy, knowing this alone (From Nissan's perspective) it would be an easy choice to NOT provide a manual option. Dual Clutch technology also provides a SIGNIFICANT advantage over it's American competition.

I personally don't think you can ding the GT-R or Nissan for not offering a manual option.

Alex07M3 · 05-30-2012, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nine

From a dig foool!!!

Regarding the GT-R and Transmission and what not.

Here are my thoughts:

I think it would have been foolish for Nissan to equip or allow for a manual option in the GT-R, it would go against their entire purpose, they are building a cutting edge car. To equip it with old technology would be foolish.

From a performance aspect, launching an AWD car is not easy, knowing this alone (From Nissan's perspective) it would be an easy choice to NOT provide a manual option. Dual Clutch technology also provides a SIGNIFICANT advantage over it's American competition.

I personally don't think you can ding the GT-R or Nissan for not offering a manual option.

At least with a manual , you could launch as much as you want without being afraid that you might brake your tranny wich is not covered anymore by the warranty since you disactivated the VDC to do a perfect launch! To me a cutting edge car is a car with a tranny strong enough to use its launch mode!

Also, there's nothing hard in launching a AWD car, specially one with that much power!

I've seen plenty of people having no trouble doing great launchs with Audi A4s 1.8t with big laggy turbos, those could be a challenge but a GT-R, not!

Finally , IMO , manual gearbox is not old technology, it's fun technology!

X2Board · 05-30-2012, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Alex07M3

At least with a manuel , you could launch as much as you want without being afraid that you might brake your tranny wich is not covered anymore by the warranty since you disactivated the VDC to do a perfect launch! To me a cutting edge car is a car with a tranny strong enough to use its launch mode!

Also, there's nothing hard in launching a AWD car, specially one with that much power!

I've seen plenty of people having no trouble doing great launchs with Audi A4s 1.8t with big laggy turbos, those could be a challenge but a GT-R, not!

Finally , IMO , manuel gearbox is not old technology, it's fun technology!

Manual vs. Manuel

Alex07M3 · 05-30-2012, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by X2Board

Manual vs. Manuel

1MOREMOD · 05-30-2012, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by dustman

No thanks. I'm good.

I wasn't suggesting you buy one. I was indicating that you will get your ass handed to you by one on the track.

mattixxg · 06-04-2012, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Nine

From a dig foool!!!

Regarding the GT-R and Transmission and what not.

Here are my thoughts:

I think it would have been foolish for Nissan to equip or allow for a manual option in the GT-R, it would go against their entire purpose, they are building a cutting edge car. To equip it with old technology would be foolish.

From a performance aspect, launching an AWD car is not easy, knowing this alone (From Nissan's perspective) it would be an easy choice to NOT provide a manual option. Dual Clutch technology also provides a SIGNIFICANT advantage over it's American competition.

I personally don't think you can ding the GT-R or Nissan for not offering a manual option.

Ech....i....agree...

The world is coming to an end.

EvosM3 · 06-04-2012, 01:54 PM

Did the OP ever buy his GTR?

Nine · 06-04-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mattixxg

Ech....i....agree...

The world is coming to an end.

You will see the light one day

- at the end of the day, I think the GT-R is an amazing car, with the combination of performance and price, it would be hard to argue otherwise.

w00tw00t · 06-04-2012, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by EvosM3

Did the OP ever buy his GTR?

hello - OP here! and yes I got my GTR... and have never looked back.. the GTR is a beast! However the M3 is an awesome car too..

here's a mini-comparo I did - http://www.nagtroc.org/forums/index....with-my-e92-m3

48Laws · 06-06-2012, 01:36 PM

BMW just patented a 7-speed manual transmission. Where's the guys who said manual transmission is on its way out..... Lol

05-29-2012, 10:59 PM	#551
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,528 iTrader: (3)	yeah what he said. __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

05-29-2012, 11:04 PM	#553
1MOREMOD Major General Drives: at a moderate pace Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: garage Posts: 6,528 iTrader: (3)	yes sir just under the wire. 335s are best though. read the rest of the thread i been in it all the way. vivek is friend of mine and been in his gtr. damn fast car when tuned up! __________________ 02 Tiag e46 M3\|6MT\|GC plates\|MCS c.o.\|GC race control arms\|GC bushings & bearings\|BW eng. & tran. mounts\|subframe kit\|BW race shifter\|BW Jaffster knob\|Euro header\|Eisenmann sport\|K&N c.a.i.\|Seibon CF hood\|CSL bumper\|CSL brakes\|RS19s\|SS lines\|half cage\|Recaro profi\|Profi 2 harness\|race pulleys\|BMWpedals\|Apex studs\|1995 Ford Probe gt chump car\|

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05-30-2012, 06:05 AM	#557
48Laws Lieutenant Drives: '11 M3 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: East Coast Posts: 522 iTrader: (0)	When people use the term, "walk", either they're talking quarter mile or street. Very seldom do I hear that lingo for track/course racing. Maybe, " overtaken" etc.

05-30-2012, 11:06 AM	#560
konaforever Second Lieutenant Drives: 2009 Red GTR Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 229 iTrader: (0)	No doubt manual is more involving and more fun, but on the track, DCT is king. As well as in the 1/4 mile.

06-04-2012, 01:54 PM	#569
EvosM3 Banned Drives: WTB E90 M3 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: America Posts: 169 iTrader: (0)	Did the OP ever buy his GTR?

06-06-2012, 01:36 PM	#572
48Laws Lieutenant Drives: '11 M3 Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: East Coast Posts: 522 iTrader: (0)	BMW just patented a 7-speed manual transmission. Where's the guys who said manual transmission is on its way out..... Lol