BMW M3 Forum (E90 E92)

BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Go Back   M3Post - BMW M3 Forum > M3 (E90 / E92 / E93) > General M3 Forum (E90 + E92 + E93)
 
OneEighty
Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      07-20-2007, 12:49 PM   #1
vijay
Registered
1
Rep
2
Posts

 
Drives: BMW 328i
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Interview with BMW M Vice President

Edmunds.com interview with M Vice President. http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...hotopanel..2.*
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2007, 01:10 PM   #2
ILC32
Lieutenant
ILC32's Avatar
18
Rep
580
Posts

 
Drives: 1993 Porsche RSA
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere

iTrader: (0)

Thanks for that link. Very interesting.

Some takeaways:

1. There will "always" be a CSL version of the M3.

2. Turbocharging is not ruled out in the future.

Some of the not-so subtle criticism of AMG was interesting as well, such as "If you only develop one engine for all your cars, then you cannot have the perfect car. If the engine in the smaller car is too big, you will not have the right harmony." Very zen.
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2007, 01:22 PM   #3
aerisolphaln
First Lieutenant
United_States
4
Rep
396
Posts

 
Drives: '05 G35 coupe 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Iowa City, IA

iTrader: (0)

How about this:

"For fans of the six-cylinder engine, we have the M Coupe. This is our entry-level M model."

From BMWUSA.com: Z4M Coupe Base MSRP $50,100

I wonder what that means for the price of the M3?
__________________
Now:'05 G35 6MT\Laser Red\Beige\Sport\Premium

06/2008: M3, 335+Dinan, or ...
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2007, 01:26 PM   #4
aerisolphaln
First Lieutenant
United_States
4
Rep
396
Posts

 
Drives: '05 G35 coupe 6MT
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Iowa City, IA

iTrader: (0)

Also I like this blurb:

"Below this supercar level, anything we could offer would just be on a level with the M3 or M6.
We could build a car that used the technical aspects of the M3 or M6 but clothe it in a new body, but such a car would be more expensive and no more fun to drive."

Hopefully this means the new M3 IS the best BMW can put out.
__________________
Now:'05 G35 6MT\Laser Red\Beige\Sport\Premium

06/2008: M3, 335+Dinan, or ...
Appreciate 0
      07-20-2007, 02:53 PM   #5
FifthStreetz
O! So Sour!!
FifthStreetz's Avatar
United_States
193
Rep
15,559
Posts

 
Drives: Fast 240z / Slow M3
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: Fort Lee, NJ

iTrader: (24)

Garage List
2008 M3  [4.75]
Quote:
Originally Posted by aerisolphaln View Post
How about this:

"For fans of the six-cylinder engine, we have the M Coupe. This is our entry-level M model."

From BMWUSA.com: Z4M Coupe Base MSRP $50,100

I wonder what that means for the price of the M3?
Yea that is interesting to point out, the UK's price for a M coupe is 41,800, and their M3 is at roughly 50K GBP. So i guess we can estimate our price to be 60K or below?
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 12:56 PM   #6
southlight
Moderator / European Editor
southlight's Avatar
607
Rep
6,748
Posts

 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Germany

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aerisolphaln View Post
Also I like this blurb:

"Below this supercar level, anything we could offer would just be on a level with the M3 or M6.
We could build a car that used the technical aspects of the M3 or M6 but clothe it in a new body, but such a car would be more expensive and no more fun to drive."

Hopefully this means the new M3 IS the best BMW can put out.
Yeah, nice allusion to the R8! But the guys at audiworld didn't recognize it:
http://forums.audiworld.com/rs4b7/msgs/58730.phtml

Best regards, south
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 01:02 PM   #7
Caravello
Private
0
Rep
54
Posts

 
Drives: 2004 M3
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Los Angeles

iTrader: (0)

I wonder how much the tin top sunroof will add. All these tests are being done on the CF roof model. But I don't know anyone who will want to be without a sunroof. I would have hoped they made the metal roof w/ sunroof standard and the CF as a sports option.
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 01:20 PM   #8
Epacy
Reincarnated
Epacy's Avatar
88
Rep
4,227
Posts

 
Drives: 02 Maxima SE
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: IL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Caravello View Post
But I don't know anyone who will want to be without a sunroof.
Me
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 01:23 PM   #9
lucid
Major General
lucid's Avatar
United_States
116
Rep
8,034
Posts

 
Drives: E30 M3; Expedition
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Caravello View Post
I wonder how much the tin top sunroof will add. All these tests are being done on the CF roof model. But I don't know anyone who will want to be without a sunroof. I would have hoped they made the metal roof w/ sunroof standard and the CF as a sports option.
I despise sunroofs. I had cars that came with them, and never wanted to use them. I specifically ordered my 325ci without sunroof. Too much sun fries your head, and the sunroof adds weight at the wrong place, and ups the cost (well, not in the M3). I also had cars with t-tops. Same issue. I am glad they made the CF standard.
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 01:29 PM   #10
southlight
Moderator / European Editor
southlight's Avatar
607
Rep
6,748
Posts

 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Germany

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Epacy View Post
Me
So it will be easy to identify your car: The only US spec E92 M3 without a sunroof!

Best regards, south
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 02:03 PM   #11
Leg
Captain
32
Rep
844
Posts

 
Drives: E92 M3 V8 Alpine White
Join Date: May 2007
Location: York, England

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FifthStreetz View Post
Yea that is interesting to point out, the UK's price for a M coupe is 41,800, and their M3 is at roughly 50K GBP. So i guess we can estimate our price to be 60K or below?
We can pick the Z4M coupe up new for 34800 from broadspeed at the moment in the UK.
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 02:25 PM   #12
esquire
Colonel
esquire's Avatar
United_States
58
Rep
2,801
Posts

 
Drives: 2011.5 Dakar Yellow M3 Coupe
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Orange County, California

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by southlight View Post
So it will be easy to identify your car: The only US spec E92 M3 without a sunroof!

Best regards, south
not quite. i suspect more than half of US M3 owners will keep the carbon fiber roof, including myself.
__________________

[ESS VT2-625] [Akrapovic Evolution Exhaust] [KW Clubsports] [OSS Angel Eyes] [Revinora r-CRT Lip]
[Vorsteiner Boot] [Challenge Race Diffuser] [See the Build Thread HERE]
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 02:39 PM   #13
southlight
Moderator / European Editor
southlight's Avatar
607
Rep
6,748
Posts

 
Drives: BMW
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Germany

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by esquire View Post
not quite. i suspect more than half of US M3 owners will keep the carbon fiber roof, including myself.
I didn't mean that very serious, but nevermind.

BMW estimates 70% of cars will be ordered with sunroof. My guess was that this estimation is mainly due to US market!? Maybe I'm wrong.

Best regards, south
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 03:21 PM   #14
Epacy
Reincarnated
Epacy's Avatar
88
Rep
4,227
Posts

 
Drives: 02 Maxima SE
Join Date: Mar 2007
Location: IL

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2008 M3  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by southlight View Post
So it will be easy to identify your car: The only US spec E92 M3 without a sunroof!

Best regards, south
That is a-ok by me.

Quote:
Originally Posted by southlight View Post
I didn't mean that very serious, but nevermind.

BMW estimates 70% of cars will be ordered with sunroof. My guess was that this estimation is mainly due to US market!? Maybe I'm wrong.

Best regards, south
I agree with your assumption.
__________________
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 04:23 PM   #15
NewhouseEnt
Second Lieutenant
11
Rep
228
Posts

 
Drives: none
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: none

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by ILC32 View Post
Thanks for that link. Very interesting.

Some takeaways:

1. There will "always" be a CSL version of the M3.

2. Turbocharging is not ruled out in the future.

Some of the .....
I can assure that this is exactly what's going to hapen. The 2010 M3 is going to be twin turbo.. right after you spend nearly $70k on the 09' you couldn't wait to buy... AND it will have about 45-60hp more.
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 05:08 PM   #16
lucid
Major General
lucid's Avatar
United_States
116
Rep
8,034
Posts

 
Drives: E30 M3; Expedition
Join Date: Apr 2007
Location: USA

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewhouseEnt View Post
I can assure that this is exactly what's going to hapen. The 2010 M3 is going to be twin turbo.. right after you spend nearly $70k on the 09' you couldn't wait to buy... AND it will have about 45-60hp more.
They won't mess with the E92 M3 engine too much. I doubt that they will mess too much with the E92 M3 CSL either. You heard the guy: he's saying their main exploration with the CSL was to see how much people would be willing to pay for LESS weight not more hp. So, FI might be considered for the next generation M3, depending on what happens in F1 and so on as the guy's saying...And if they were to mess with the E92 M3 engine by turbocharging it, you'd see much more than 45-60 hp gains.
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 06:04 PM   #17
ILC32
Lieutenant
ILC32's Avatar
18
Rep
580
Posts

 
Drives: 1993 Porsche RSA
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewhouseEnt View Post
I can assure that this is exactly what's going to hapen. The 2010 M3 is going to be twin turbo.. right after you spend nearly $70k on the 09' you couldn't wait to buy... AND it will have about 45-60hp more.
Yes, that make a lot of sense. Add twin turbos for 60 more hp.
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 06:29 PM   #18
T Bone
Brigadier General
T Bone's Avatar
144
Rep
4,021
Posts

 
Drives: 2008 335xi Coupe
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: The land where we kill baby seals

iTrader: (0)

Great insight into BMW's thinking of M cars.... The M guys are confident. I love the little jabs at the competition like the "modern day beetle"

It is clear what the new M5 / M6 cars will be..... Gasoline, high-rev V10 (550-600 hp) but I will bet a bunch of nickels, the car's next focus will be on reducing the weight.

I am surprised he was not more commital on the Z10
__________________
"Aerodynamics are for people who cannot build engines"......Enzo Ferrari
Appreciate 0
      07-21-2007, 08:19 PM   #19
karan230
400 hp :)
karan230's Avatar
India
11
Rep
380
Posts

 
Drives: SLK230 Sport
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: OC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by NewhouseEnt View Post
I can assure that this is exactly what's going to hapen. The 2010 M3 is going to be twin turbo.. right after you spend nearly $70k on the 09' you couldn't wait to buy...
lol...it is possible...that's what MB did for the W220 S-Class and C215 CL-Class. The AMGs and 600s were N/A up to 2002. Then in 2003 they added the supercharger for the AMGs and turbos for the 600s. LOL... 2002 people got majorly p0wn3d.
Appreciate 0
      07-22-2007, 03:32 PM   #20
M3onTwomps
First Lieutenant
Iraq
3
Rep
319
Posts

 
Drives: '02 E46 M3
Join Date: Oct 2006
Location: The Sandbox

iTrader: (0)

We definitely won't be seeing FI on this run of M3's. Maybe the next generation though.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:19 AM.




m3post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.0
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST