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      05-11-2012, 05:39 PM   #23
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Same car...Nothing new, no additional standard features...Just 1 yr older and its $200 more...I never understood why each new yr it's more expensive when there is nothing new
Inflation? My grandparents never understood that either. I told them I should be getting more money at the age of 21 than I was at the age of 5.
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      05-11-2012, 05:41 PM   #24
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I'm starting to believe that BMW is extremely aware this current gen car is very, very good. Great even. This reason is why I think BMW is offering absolutely nothing in the way of a true "special edition" car because they in NO WAY want to detract from the upcoming version.
Good luck BMW, I hope this all works out and that next gen car better be damn good. Excuse me, great.
My sense is that, since it's still selling well (and demand even exceeds supply), there is nothing that BMW feels it *needs* to do to encourage sales. So nothing they would need to add.

I think BMW M still wants to bring out special, limited edition(s) models for the end. But I think they will be offered at the end of the cycle run. I also wouldn't be surprised at an announcement at the M Festival later this month. Scott26 has hinted at that a couple of times.

But I'm not waiting any longer. I've already waited long enough.

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Another example: no price premium for V10 E60 M5. NA + more cylinders doesn't bring a premium over just more power, performance and refinement of the replacement model.
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Not much. Values are already low, secondhand cars into $30k's now.
I don't think the E90/92 M3s will have any increased value for being the last NA and only V8. I think once the new model comes out and reviewers talk about how much better it is than the current model, almost everyone will jump ship.

That said, i do think that end of cycle models, such as the 05 and 06 E46 M3s may be perhaps a little more sought after due to the fact that the general consensus is that they're the most-bug-free, most sorted out of that generation. Especially when they have desired options that were introduced towards the end, like the competition package (whether or not the E9X generation competition package actually is deserving of the greater interest - there's just that perception and why you have jokes like "Civic M3" when M3s don't have it).

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Any information for Canada ??
Not that I'm aware of. My dealer is supposed to email me the info once it becomes available for Canada. He knows I'm keenly waiting for it so we can put my specs into the system ASAP.
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Not likely to add any monetary premium. The "last classic inline 6" M3 is an E46 M3, and that doesn't bring any premium.
Except for the fact it is the only V8 M3..this could have some cache. I know I'm not even considerinig a F3X M3....I would be moving on as I am a normally aspirated guy.

Maybe not in the beginning..but later on down the line it could command more.

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It's unfortunate that a bunch of people bought the MY12 thinking they got "the last of the V8s" and now there's a 2013... Welp!
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And I waited like a sucker.

Screw my dealer, I'm going to autotrader right now and getting me a my12 and save some money!!!

And tell all my friends it's a 2013
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      05-11-2012, 06:41 PM   #28
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I would buy a used e9x instead. And agree there should be some special colors offered to incentivize this and make it more appealing.
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I was going through it with my dealer and he noticed that under the Premium Package, there is an option for Piano Finish Black Trim. That looks to be new, but besides that I'm a little disappointed that no new colors are available. If I wasn't planning EuroDelivery, a slightly used one would probably be a better decision.
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literally the SAME car as compared to 2012 in standard equipment, option, packages.

I honestly doubt if there are HIGH HIGH demands for M3.
Obviously this is an M3 forum after all, and me being an M3 owner we would all agree this is the last, best NA screaming engine.
But to the general public this is just a big V8 that does 15mpg and costs $1300 gas guzzler tax.
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I was going through it with my dealer and he noticed that under the Premium Package, there is an option for Piano Finish Black Trim. That looks to be new, but besides that I'm a little disappointed that no new colors are available. If I wasn't planning EuroDelivery, a slightly used one would probably be a better decision.
Beast Charmer, this is very interesting.

That "Piano Finish Black Trim" has the same code (XE8) as the Individual Piano Black Trim.

Part of the reason I checked the (Canadian) Individual Pkg option box was to get the Piano Black Trim. Give its non-availability on orders without an Individual VIN (at least in the past), its price and adding in the labour for a retrofit, the extra cost for the individual paint (in the Canadian package deal) would have been small. It looks like it's now a no cost option in your (US) premium package. I will have to watch for its availability here...
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I was going through it with my dealer and he noticed that under the Premium Package, there is an option for Piano Finish Black Trim. That looks to be new, but besides that I'm a little disappointed that no new colors are available. If I wasn't planning EuroDelivery, a slightly used one would probably be a better decision.
Just re-looked at it closely. Only for the convert.

Did you guys always have shadowline exterior trim standard for the coupe? if not, it's standard now.
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      05-11-2012, 07:59 PM   #33
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Aren't these prices the same that were released with increase on Jan 3, 2012?

I got the same base prices and mine is a '12 (to be built mid June for ED)
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      05-11-2012, 08:10 PM   #34
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How much do you save on Euro delivery?
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I'm starting to believe that BMW is extremely aware this current gen car is very, very good. Great even. This reason is why I think BMW is offering absolutely nothing in the way of a true "special edition" car because they in NO WAY want to detract from the upcoming version.
Good luck BMW, I hope this all works out and that next gen car better be damn good. Excuse me, great.

They are As we found out at the NY auto show, demand for the M3 coupe/convertible was running at 4 times the supply.
The problem is its all bs until ppl get credit or can cough up cash to buy. Demand at 4 times production also means my car just went up in value which we all no thats not true. So statements about supply and demand from autoshows and surveys are all fluff normally.
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The problem is its all bs until ppl get credit or can cough up cash to buy. Demand at 4 times production also means my car just went up in value which we all no thats not true. So statements about supply and demand from autoshows and surveys are all fluff normally.
It wasn't meant to be a study in economics or thesis on how it affects the price of your car. Merely a short statement that demand is still quite high relative to supply heading into the car's last model year. Take it for what it is.
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It wasn't meant to be a study in economics or thesis on how it affects the price of your car. Merely a short statement that demand is still quite high relative to supply heading into the car's last model year. Take it for what it is.
So true, and not to mention the allocations have shrunk a bit.

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enjoying my E92, can't wait to see how BMW does the next one. Should be epic no matter the engine configuration.
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About 7-10%
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I think if this is the last NA car that ///M will make it will make it higher down the road, but not any time soon. I hope there will be some sort of hardcore model that we get in honor of the last NA M3.
Personally, I believe NA petrol engines are history because of fuel efficiency rules. Nothing wrong with a blower...
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I got a similar discount on a 2012 without Ed
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Personally, I believe NA petrol engines are history because of fuel efficiency rules. Nothing wrong with a blower...
I know there is nothing wrong. But hopefully they will recognize that there is still a difference to us. Regardless of how good those turbos are.
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Same car...Nothing new, no additional standard features...Just 1 yr older and its $200 more...I never understood why each new yr it's more expensive when there is nothing new
Dollar depreciation and inflation at work. Yay Fiat based currency!
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Do the 2013 new m3s have 2012 lci e92/3 headlights?
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