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      04-27-2012, 12:01 PM   #1
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SAE Certifies 2013 Ford Mustang GT500 at 662hp

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At 662 HP, 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 Certified As World's Most Powerful V8


  • The 5.8-liter supercharged V8 in the 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 is SAE certified at 662 horsepower and 631 lb.-ft. of torque
  • The world's most powerful production V8 is backed up by chassis, aerodynamic and braking performance that makes the GT500 an outstanding all-around sports car
  • Even with 112 horsepower more than the 2012 GT500, fuel economy is increased by 1 mpg both city and highway, 5 mpg better than Chevrolet Camaro ZL1
The all-new supercharged 5.8-liter powerplant in the 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 has been officially SAE-certified as the most powerful series production V8 in the world with peak output of 662 horsepower and 631 lb.-ft. of torque. That's more power and torque than low volume sports cars costing tens or hundreds of thousands of dollars more than the GT500, which is the most fuel-efficient vehicle in its segment. In fact the 2013 GT500 is the most fuel-efficient car with over 550 horsepower in any segment available in America.

Unlike high-strung engines found in much more expensive exotic supercars, the GT500 engine generates its massive thrust throughout its operating range with 395 lb.-ft. of torque available just off idle at 1,000 rpm. More than 90 percent of the peak torque is available from 2,200 to 5,800 rpm so that no matter when you squeeze the go pedal, the GT500 will just get up and run.

The combination of the new TVS 2.3-liter supercharger, twin overhead camshafts and four valves per cylinder ensures this stallion can breathe all the way to 7,000 rpm with the peak power production coming at 6,500 rpm and holding fairly steady right to the rev limit.

"Our goal is to create outstanding all-around performance cars, not just stoplight-to-stoplight sprinters," said Jamal Hameedi, SVT chief engineer. "We've backed up this amazing powerplant with a more refined chassis tuning that helps keep the rubber on the pavement without punishing the driver's spine and six-pot Brembo brakes that dissipate speed with ease stop after stop."

The broad, flat torque curve of the GT500 engine makes it tractable and easy to drive whether trolling along in traffic or powering out of a turn on a twisting country road. With more than enough grunt to push the coupe to 200 mph and beyond, the chassis has been tuned to absorb the road imperfections that can cause instability at high speeds. The revised front fascia and splitter help manage the flow of air around and under the GT500 so that it offers 33 percent more effective aero loading at 160 mph compared to the 2011 model and feels more firmly planted.

"The engineers at Ford SVT focused on the fundamentals first with solid mechanical grip and strong brakes," added Hameedi. "On top of that platform they added advanced driver-adjustable electronic assist features including launch control, Bilstein adjustable damping, AdvanceTrac stability control and electric power-assisted steering."

Even with the most powerful production V8 in the world, the 2013 Shelby GT500 improves on the fuel efficiency of the 2012 model with an EPA-estimated 15 mpg city, 24 mpg highway and 18 mpg combined with no gas guzzler tax. That's 5 mpg better on the highway than the 2012 Chevrolet Camaro ZL1 even with an extra 82 horsepower and 75 lb.-ft. being generated under the hood. With the 2013 GT500 world-class performance no longer has to mean a world-class thirst for fuel.

The 2013 Ford Shelby GT500 will be built at AutoAlliance International Plant in Flat Rock, Mich.
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      04-27-2012, 12:24 PM   #2
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meh... still a Mustang...

just kidding, i'm just being the devil's advocate here ! looks like a damn freakin' beast !!! the torque numbers and availability seem insane...
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      04-27-2012, 12:42 PM   #3
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      04-27-2012, 12:50 PM   #4
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It will be interesting to see which one will be faster on a road coarse, this monster or 2013 GTR,
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      04-27-2012, 01:09 PM   #5
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They need to hurry up and build a new GT to put this in!

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      04-27-2012, 01:23 PM   #6
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that's sweet. i think i'll buy that for my dd
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      04-27-2012, 01:32 PM   #7
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Amazinggggg. Ford is not fucking around.
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      04-27-2012, 01:39 PM   #8
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In fact the 2013 GT500 is the most fuel-efficient car with over 550 horsepower in any segment available in America.

What a great ad slogan! It's like saying, "This competitor has the smallest waistline of any champion Sumo wrestler in Japan!"

The power delivery of this engine is truly remarkable for such a relatively inexpensive, easily obtained car. It is funny to see how the marketing gurus come up with these claims, though--"most powerful series-production V8 in the world." I guess it depends on how one defines "series production". What about the various Koenigsegg models with their 800+ hp supercharged V8s? They're obviously produced in relatively small numbers, but they're nonetheless produced in series, and not one-offs.

Kudos to Ford, though, for backing up their initial power claims, and then some. It wasn't too many years ago that major carmakers were claiming certain power figures, then falling embarrassingly short on SAE testing of production models. Not to mention the horsepower wars of the '60s, when carmakers would advertise their power figures based on a massaged example with a hotter cam instead of the true production engine, or would at least dyno test on the bench with no accessories attached.

I've sat in the car and read about it, but never driven it. But my impression is that it's a tremendous engine in search of an equally great chassis/car. If Ford could put this engine in a new chassis, a dedicated true sports car that doesn't have the Mustang's humble origins, build it with impeccable quality and attention to detail, and keep it under $80K, that would really be something.
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      04-27-2012, 03:46 PM   #9
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now only if they could come up with a body shape I could fall in love with.
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It will be interesting to see which one will be faster on a road coarse, this monster or 2013 GTR,
GTR has the AWD and dual clutch advantage, it goes a long way in both drag racing and road courses. Not to say the GT500 won't be faster, but the GT-R certainly has Aces up it's sleeve.
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      04-27-2012, 04:26 PM   #11
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now only if they could come up with a body shape I could fall in love with.
This!

Seriously though, a beast like a GT500 really needs to be your track car. Trying to have some fun on city streets would be maddening.
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      04-27-2012, 06:22 PM   #12
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I've already started saving up for mine. Only problem is gonna be deciding which car to take to work
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      04-27-2012, 07:17 PM   #13
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Fords not fucking around. Can't wait to see these things out in the real world... Insane
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      04-27-2012, 07:31 PM   #14
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Ford did very well on this car and amazing price point but if you add a supercharger doesn't the e9x m3's hit these numbers? Granted for a bit more money.

Sadly, I also am not a fan of the ford mustang look.
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      04-27-2012, 09:14 PM   #15
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It will be interesting to see which one will be faster on a road coarse, this monster or 2013 GTR,
GTR has the AWD and dual clutch advantage, it goes a long way in both drag racing and road courses. Not to say the GT500 won't be faster, but the GT-R certainly has Aces up it's sleeve.
You're missing out one of the most important advantages the GTR has... The computer assisted suspension!

I think only chevy's Magnetic Ride is anywhere near as good and even Ferrari is using it.
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Ford did very well on this car and amazing price point but if you add a supercharger doesn't the e9x m3's hit these numbers? Granted for a bit more money.

Sadly, I also am not a fan of the ford mustang look.
For a LOT more money....

In Canada for example, a well optioned M3 is about 82k plus tax. The supercharger plus install is another 15 to 20k.

105k vs a full optioned 2013 GT500 at 67k that still has full factory warranty... I wouldn't consider that close at all. The only thing that bothers me about the gt500 is the rear suspension and the front weight bias.

Oh,,,, and other than Drews build no supercharged M3 is at 685 HP. Plus .. It's nowhere near the tq of this beast.
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Where was this thing when I purchased my GT in 2000. 4.6 L wimp 260 hp.

Ford seems to have dropped their balls finally.
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      04-27-2012, 10:53 PM   #18
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Where was this thing when I purchased my GT in 2000. 4.6 L wimp 260 hp.

Ford seems to have dropped their balls finally.
Remember the 2000 Cobra R? It had a N/A 5.8 liter I could never figure out why Ford didn't captialize on this motor. It should have been in my Mach1's. THe GT500's will be something to contend with at the strip or track.
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      04-27-2012, 10:54 PM   #19
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Kind of like this:

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      04-28-2012, 05:04 AM   #20
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Amazing power, good looking car. Cheap ass interior. Needs about another $20k put into the interior to make it appealing to me.
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I'd be happy to drive one.
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Insane power, but the look of that car just does nothing at all for me. I'll pass.
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